Teresa N., Haleigh's paternal grandmother

[Tom'sGirl]

With due respect, Tom's Girl, I remember a lengthy discussion about Crystal's arriving late at the trailer. They had tracked her time, etc from Lake County and many were quite sure she was late for a reason.

I would like to know how TN arrived so quickly. It may help to know who all were called and at what time they were called. I thought everyone was still included and no one was ruled out as involved so far in this tragedy.

Please tell me if TN is off limits also. When I saw this thread with TN as the topic, I thought we could discuss her and her whereabouts.

TN is not off limits or we wouldn't have a thread.

I answered your question, and presented another.

 

[Whisperer]

TN listed on the police report she lives in Pomona Park. Does she still live there?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

I think it's because she hasn't stated where she was. What would knowing where she was help find Haleigh????

If she lied about her whereabouts, perhaps she was attempting to ensure that LE was delayed searching her actual residence for evidence of Haleigh. Or, if she was actually at the MH or in Satsuma earlier in the evening of Haleigh's disappearance, perhaps she lied about her whereabouts to cover that involvement up. This is, ofcourse, conjecture. But her whereabouts are relevant in the search for Haleigh, imo. Ofcourse by now, LE probably knows just where TN was that evening. All of this, ofcourse, is just my opinion.

 

[Tom'sGirl]

If she lied about her whereabouts, perhaps she was attempting to ensure that LE was delayed searching her actual residence for evidence of Haleigh. Or, if she was actually at the MH or in Satsuma earlier in the evening of Haleigh's disappearance, perhaps she lied about her whereabouts to cover that involvement up. This is, ofcourse, conjecture. But her whereabouts are relevant, imo. Ofcourse by now, LE probably knows just where TN was that evening. All of this, ofcourse, is just my opinion.

Thanks Shaymus for your answer, it was appreciated.

 

[Whisperer]

Thanks Shaymus for clarifying a position and reason for wanting to know about TN and her whereabouts at the time of the disappearance.

Has the question been discussed before? IF so, could somebody answer or tell me where to find the answer? Does TN live in Pomona Park still?...and was she there/reside there at 3:00 am on February 10th?

 

[Shaymus at The Rock]

Thanks Shaymus for clarifying a position and reason for wanting to know about TN and her whereabouts at the time of the disappearance.

Has the question been discussed before? IF so, could somebody answer or tell me where to find the answer? Does TN live in Pomona Park still?...and was she there/reside there at 3:00 am on February 10th?

Questions about TN's whereabouts at the time of Haleigh's disappearance have been raised before, Whisperer. IIRC, about a month or so ago, there was a quite a bit of sleuthing done on the Pomona Park address vs a possible Lady Lake residence. You might want to check downstairs.

BTW - I've also tried to determine if TN was working that night; where she was working (as there appears to be some confusion about which counties she dispatched for - FT for one and perhaps PT for another ?); and what shift(s) she worked. But, I don't think we have any real info on her work schedule. She was wearing a sweater that, imo, appeared to be part of a uniform in the first media interview - but that's about's it.

I also don't think we know if she ever returned to work after Haleigh's disappearance.

 

[newsjunkie]

Pirate said she had county records proof that TN lives in Lake County and that the address she gave elsewhere was just an empty mobile home.

If you do a search on Pirate, you will find the discussion.

 

[Whisperer]

Thank you both. So, possibly, TN did not live in Pomona Park at the time of Haleigh's disappearance. Has that been discussed up here? I don't see many being surprised or commenting on this find. I wonder why. It could possibly be a BIG clue. If she did not reside there, how in the world did she arrive so quickly at the scene? I thought it was because she was close by. IF she lived 40 miles away, there is no way she could have got there by 3:40....that is, unless, she knew before 3:25am. If she was not in Pomona Park, she must have been very close by. Lake County is not a 15 minute drive.

If she did not live in Pomona Park, why does the Police Report say she did? Did she give wrong information to the LE?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Pirate said she had county records proof that TN lives in Lake County and that the address she gave elsewhere was just an empty mobile home.

If you do a search on Pirate, you will find the discussion.

If there was such proof...LE would be aware of it and have already checked into the time of when Teresa arrived on scene.

I have found no reason to doubt Teresa and would like to stop to say a little prayer for her. This grandmother has been living a total nightmare since her little Haleigh went missing and I pray she can find some answers in the near future.

 

[Whisperer]

I am glad that you are stopping to pray for Teresa, really I am but I am confused.

If there is no reason to doubt Teresa...do you know where she lived at the time? She says Rita Lane....there is NO trailer at that address. So did she live on a vacant lot or do you have information about her residence that the rest of us do not have?

 

[Busylady]

The court records are from 2002 and are not current. TN lives on Rita Lane just like the police report states. It would take about 15 minutes to arrive at RC's. She arrived between 3:40 and 3:49. The police report indicates she arrived after 3:40 and we know she called Crystal from there at 3:49.

Pirate said she had county records proof that TN lives in Lake County and that the address she gave elsewhere was just an empty mobile home.

If you do a search on Pirate, you will find the discussion.

 

[passionflower]

On another thread of Haleigh it was mentioned that "grandma's" property is being searched. I can't find a link, is it this grandma????

just found link
http://www.news4jax.com/video/19879394/index.html


other grandparents..........nothing found but dead horse, goat.......on GG farm

 

[DotsEyes]

No, it was MG's property that was searched, as well as that of another unnamed relative.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I am glad that you are stopping to pray for Teresa, really I am but I am confused.

If there is no reason to doubt Teresa...do you know where she lived at the time? She says Rita Lane....there is NO trailer at that address. So did she live on a vacant lot or do you have information about her residence that the rest of us do not have?

Teresa has no obligation or need to make her living arrangements public.

 

[Whisperer]

The LE made her address public in the police report...1** Rita Lane, Pomona Park. At last report of tax records, the address does not exist.

 

[newsjunkie]

If there was such proof...LE would be aware of it and have already checked into the time of when Teresa arrived on scene.

I have found no reason to doubt Teresa and would like to stop to say a little prayer for her. This grandmother has been living a total nightmare since her little Haleigh went missing and I pray she can find some answers in the near future.

The court records are from 2002 and are not current. TN lives on Rita Lane just like the police report states. It would take about 15 minutes to arrive at RC's. She arrived between 3:40 and 3:49. The police report indicates she arrived after 3:40 and we know she called Crystal from there at 3:49.

Simply relaying information given by a local, and heading the questioner to the previously had discussion.

 

[Whisperer]

Thank you NewsJunkie....I have just looked it up!

I don't know what court records Busy is talking about. I did see that there is no trailer parked at that address that TN gave.

Recent court records regarding tax also suggest no such address. Appears there was a trailer there at one time perhaps but not of recent records. I would like to get this clarified. PIC shows a vacant lot. Owners are listed for 101, 103, 107 only. Four parcels but three trailers are showing up on the records.

 

[Skully]

Without phone records for Ron and Misty you will never know when TN was called. Misty can't say when she actually woke up. She could have called her brother's and TN before she called Ron. Not having those records to back up anything anyone says is a problem.

 

[Skully]

If there was such proof...LE would be aware of it and have already checked into the time of when Teresa arrived on scene.

I have found no reason to doubt Teresa and would like to stop to say a little prayer for her. This grandmother has been living a total nightmare since her little Haleigh went missing and I pray she can find some answers in the near future.

Bolded by me. I find these statements to be speculation on your part. We have no proof that LE checked or did not check arrival times. I am sure they know where she lives however. As for stopping to pray, well speculation again. We would hope she dashed out of the house to go to RC's side in such a tragic event. Stopping to pray would be a nice thought, but we don't know that she took time out for this, thus getting her there later.

I do agree she needs to find answers and we hope they are the answers she wants. This is everyones nighmare.

 

[Skully]

Teresa has no obligation or need to make her living arrangements public.

I see this as speculation again as we don't know what LE needs at this time. No one has been cleared. I don't know if living arrangements means who she is living with, but if LE feels that person could or would be involved, they will make it known. I do want to say, as for myself, I don't think either family took her. I think they are all victims in this nightmare