Terri 's e-mails on KATU 08.09.2010

[gitana1]

Yeah, I'd agree if we were talking about falling on the floor and shaking seizures - but we're not. If Kyron actually was exhibiting these symptoms, they could have a dozen explanations - anything from simply being off in a fantasy world of imagination and not paying attention to actual seizures - or anything in between. Shoot, I act that way myself most of the time simply because my mind is elsewhere and I'm easily distracted.

I think if you grab a child and run him off to the emergency room with nothing more concrete than "he wasn't paying attention to me" or "he seemed distracted" and the child himself says that he feels fine, they're probably going to laugh you out of the building.

I should have read further before posting!
I think what TH was describing is more than a kid not paying attention. She uses it herself to suggest something was wrong with Kyron and that a doctor thought it important enough to set up an appointment. I think such symptoms would be very frightening to a parent and a doctor. She would not be rushing to the ER saying that Kyron was not paying attention. She would be describing staring, walking aimlessly and that this behavior is new. I would think the ER would immediately test for signs of neurological impairment rather than laughing the mother out of the room.
My pedicurist told me how her grandson went to the doctor's with certain symptoms (I think tiredness and something odd with his legs) and was told to go immediately to the ER. There, the child underwent tests that lasted all day. At the end of the day, the diagnosis was cancer. The little boy was hooked up to chemo that night. He survived after two years of treatment but the fact is, I don't think doctors screw around when it comes to kids. My pedicurist was told that the cancer was fast acting and they could not afford to wait.
What if Kyron had a tumor that was growing rapidly and could have killed him quickly? What if he had a concussion and could have died in his sleep without treatment? What if it was something like spinal meningitis or something else as dangerous? Something is fishy with this to me.

 

[palladore]

I just noticed something interesting in Terri's email snips:

"The last two weeks he has been acting weird ..."

The timing - the last two weeks - is very convenient. It had been two weeks since Kyron had spent the last weekend with DY and TY. So if DY and TY hadn't noticed anything strange about Kyron's behavior, TH could have said - well it started after he got back to Portland.

 

[sorrell skye]

“I didn’t just drop him off, I spent time with him, took pictures and he was in safe hands I thought as I watched him walk down the hall. Kids saw him after I left. Teacher put him as absent at 10am. Someplace between 9-10 is when we think it happened. I have a receipt showing I was checked out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for Baby K they didn’t have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get Baby K to…

… sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day – they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them…”

IMO, this is an e-mail expressing hostile sentiment. As far as I'm concerned, these are not the words of someone who is concerned about the safety & well-being of a little boy who is missing. IMO, these are the words of someone who is angry, resentful, & worried that their statements to LE (and to others) is not believed, and who is also angry & resentful that they have been interviewed by LE *5 times* since Kyron went missing.

It's likely that LE interviewed several other people multiple times during the first 24 hours.

What's interesting is that TH is the one who complained about it in e-mails.

This e-mail was sent the very next day after Kyron went missing.

What I wonder is: to whom was this e-mail sent?

 

[butterfly1978]

Terri totally contradicted herself in this email. Apparently she is admitting to Kyron having a DR. appointment by talking about the seizure but back up in the email and she claims to have NOT told the teacher about the appointment, instead she claims she said she was going to look at other projects. So I guess the teacher was a pyschic because she knew about the appoint. without Terri telling her.
She gives WAY to much detail about the FM thing and the just flies through the gym, Kaine coming home things, I agree she is LYING, that is common knowledge that when someone lies they give unnessasary details.

 

[Caligram]

raying:

I can't wait to see what happens in the next couple of days. Hopefully LE will disclose a few facts which we have not been privy to, and end some of this speculation. What strange emails she has composed to try and "prove" her timeline. The past/present tense she used was off, and she had some rambling sentences. I was under the impression that she had earned a BS which gave her certification. Or was the BS for some other reason, like she could strut her role of Stepmonster/Teacher.
I think that Terri was making life slowly uncomfortable at home, but of course the fault would reflect on Kyron,
I imagine that Terri was pushing Kyton and finding fault with everything he did. It must have been difficult to satisfy Terri with what she demanded him to produce, No wonder the poor boy was confused at home, and that stress/uncertainty reflected in his assigned paperwork.
I think also that Terri was afraid of what may develop over changing custody rules, That meant trouble ….because Kaine would have to pay child support to Desiree, reducing money left for her princess.
Between her seething anger at Kaine, she had to find a way to punish Kaine, eliminate Kyron and those support payments.
The day after Kyron is missing she is checking the blogs. The ones she sent are going to comeback and bite her where she needs it.
Her demeanor reminds me of a few other mom’s who thought they had the right and the smarts to “Dispose of those” who were in the way.

This poor little boy is haunting me. Kyron, honey, I wish I could have saved you. :angel:

 

[Calliope]

But what if the doctor knew you to be a worry wart, a little hysterical, even? What if you'd made similar calls in the past that proved unwarranted? The doctor might not tell you to rush the child to his office.

Just speculatin'. MOO...MOO

I think if Terri was like that, or Munchausen's by proxy as some suggested, we'd have heard something to that effect by now. If not from Desiree and Kaine and Co., then by those who read through her FB before it was made private. It would have been obvious.

 

[helpfulcharlie]

raying:

I can't wait to see what happens in the next couple of days. Hopefully LE will disclose a few facts which we have not been privy to, and end some of this speculation. What strange emails she has composed to try and "prove" her timeline. The past/present tense she used was off, and she had some rambling sentences. I was under the impression that she had earned a BS which gave her certification. Or was the BS for some other reason, like she could strut her role of Stepmonster/Teacher.
I think that Terri was making life slowly uncomfortable at home, but of course the fault would reflect on Kyron,
I imagine that Terri was pushing Kyton and finding fault with everything he did. It must have been difficult to satisfy Terri with what she demanded him to produce, No wonder the poor boy was confused at home, and that stress/uncertainty reflected in his assigned paperwork.
I think also that Terri was afraid of what may develop over changing custody rules, That meant trouble ….because Kaine would have to pay child support to Desiree, reducing money left for her princess.
Between her seething anger at Kaine, she had to find a way to punish Kaine, eliminate Kyron and those support payments.
The day after Kyron is missing she is checking the blogs. The ones she sent are going to comeback and bite her where she needs it.
Her demeanor reminds me of a few other mom’s who thought they had the right and the smarts to “Dispose of those” who were in the way.

This poor little boy is haunting me. Kyron, honey, I wish I could have saved you. :angel:

I have a feeling there is a reason behind the timing of the release of this email. I think Wednesday is indeed going to show some details we aren't privy to, that directly conflict with this information. And I think KATU knows it. Media likes to drop bombshells.

 

[Angel4u2Whisper2]

Excuse me, but there's no medical proof yet that Kyron was really having seizures.

Walking into a room and out again and being forgetful sounds like typical child behavior to me.

Maybe Kyron walked in on Terri doing her sexting? Maybe he saw other things too and was in shock? Kids can get weird when they are trying to handle incomprehensible things.

This sounds to me as if Terri was the only one who saw Kyron's behavior as "seizures."

No one from the school ever mentioned this - nothing.

ITA I did not read all of the comments on the thred before this comment, I hope the point wasn't already made. If TH was so concerned about his "alleged seizures" that had symptoms of daydreaming or forgetting that was so disturbing to her that she made an appointment....then why or why did she just leave him in the hallway that day? Why not walk him to the class and talk to the teacher asking for extra observation for K until more information can be deemed???

 

[Calliope]

But apparently one of them thinks they recognized the symptom but just didn't tell the other one? If Kaine knew about Kyron not paying attention in school and they had to "get on him" to listen, etc., then Terri also knew that. But then Terri goes and elaborates on the mini seizure idea but doesn't tell Kaine. Her web is in need of serious repair, I'm thinking.

I don't know...

I always thought LE and parents acted kinda weird when asked about any medical (which I guess would include psych) issues with Kyron. And the more I think on it, the more I remember Kaine not directly answering the question about the doctor's appointment. I have no idea where to find that clip now, but I seem to remember it being in a video.

 

[ElizaAvalon]

This might have been posted before but did people suspect her just a day after the dissappearance (emails dated June 5th)?

I don't remember that myself. It seemed it all started when they had the first press conference and people were reading her body language.

I suspected her right away. Couldn't post it here though until it was clear LE suspected her too, out of respect for her in case I was wrong.

They were blasting her everywhere else, though.

 

[ami]

They are blaming me in the blogs. I just want to scream...

The teacher thought I said I was going to take Kyron with [K] for a doctor’s appt., I said I was going to look at other exhibits - how do you mess that up? His coat and backpack were still at school. I left the school at 9 and he was seen with a man ‘chaperone’ and 2 girls after I left. There were no men on the chaperone list. That and it was highly chaotic - had to been 300 people running around - no coordination ...

I didn't just drop him off, I spent time with him, took pictures and he was in safe hands I thought as I watched him walk down the hall. Kids saw him after I left. Teacher put him as absent at 10am. Someplace between 9-10 is when we think it happened.

I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for K they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get K to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30. That was my day - they keep asking me. Now on my 5th interview with them ...

The past 2 weeks he's been acting really weird. Staring off into space. Can't remember anything. Walks into the room and then back out, stopping to stare and then move on. The doc thinks that he is having mini seizures and I made an appt on Thursday for next Friday to have him checked out.

Does anyone else notice the places in the email where her tone changes? She goes from normal fluid writing to a complete dropping of pronouns and a sort of "flat" style. When she talks about spending time with Kyron at the science fair and taking his picture (things we know are true) she's normal.

I didn't just drop him off, I spent time with him, took pictures and he was in safe hands I thought as I watched him walk down the hall.

Then she drops extra words and minimizes:

Kids saw him after I left. Teacher put him as absent at 10am. Someplace between 9-10 is when we think it happened.


Also when she talks about baby K she sounds normal:

I have a receipt showing I was checking out at Fred Meyer 7 miles away at 9:12am. I went to another FM looking for meds for K they didn't have at the first FM. Then I was trying to get K to sleep in the truck for a few minutes,

then changes when she lists the rest of her timeline

...but no go, so off to the gym at 11:20. Out at 12:20. Home at 12:45. Kaine home at 2. Bus at 3:30.

She's flat, no details, no pronouns, tense change (I left the school, I was checking out, I was trying to get K to sleep ----> no go, off to the gm, out, home, Kaine home, bus.)

She also changed when she wrote about Kyron's "seizures". Very flat and frankly a little unloving description of what she was characterizing as a seizure in child:

he's been acting really weird. Staring off into space. Can't remember anything. Walks into the room and then back out, stopping to stare and then move on.

Again few pronouns, no names or initials, just that weird flatness and change to present tense.

Also bothers me that she said, "as I watched him walk down the hall". Not "as he walked down the hall." I don't have a firm reason for thinking that's odd, but it hits my "ear" wrong.

I think she gets flat like that when she makes something up, but that's just MO from (and this is embarrassing to admit) 4 years in a long distance relationship with a bf in the military when I would have to glean every last ounce of emotion out of his letters! Heh.

Were Kyron having seizures as she believed, things would have proceeded much differently in the investigation, IMO. I think she would have been shouting from the rooftops - He could be wandering confused in the woods, he is seizing and could have wandered out in a fugue state, had a seizure and fallen... etc etc. If this had been happening and she'd shared it with Kaine and Desiree, they would have been shouting it, too. Look, those two are grasping at ANYthing to show he's still alive, they would have clung to the "he just wandered away because of his absence seizures" and been out beating the bushes every single day.

 

[Emeralgem]

Too much to wrap my mind around but I do think she had been giving Kyron drugs for at least the last two weeks and also believe she gave him drugs on the morning of June 4th..Before she did whatever...JMO
IMHO..
Woman lacks a conscience and IF by chance she is having any difficulty (any whatsoever )sleeping at night it isn't due to any remorse for whatever it is she did to Kyron, it's due to her fear of being found out....JMO

 

[Jade2010]

Ami, That could be because they are cut and pastes from several different emails.

 

[daisy7]

Morning, peeps! Boy, looks like you guys had a big party last night --LOL

Please remember to edit out names of minors -- use Baby K.

 

[ami]

Ami, That could be because they are cut and pastes from several different emails.

The different paragraphs could have been from different emails, but the examples I used were changing mid-sentence or within contiguous sentences.

 

[Angel4u2Whisper2]

It takes one minute to check to see if the med is in stock and if not she could have made impulse purchase like lollipop as they were walking out.

Would you save the reciept for your lollipop though?

 

[Calliope]

Well, I want to see the entire email, from start to finish. No editing.

 

[Jade2010]

Is there any reason it's nailed down to OTC medication versus a prescription?

 

[Jade2010]

Well, I want to see the entire email, from start to finish. No editing.

I'm with you on that Calliope. The one comment where she says she wants to scream. It seems like it dropped off there and there were more words after it. Maybe I'm wrong. Surely they wouldn't cut off mid sentence.

 

[butterfly7]

Would you save the reciept for your lollipop though?

For a while now, everyone talks about the receipts. Have we seen any of them? If they were cash receipts (not Debit or Credit), anyone could have obtained the receipts, right? Just confused about this. JMHO