Terri's Armchair Psych Profile

[Mylou]

Oh right. I forgot about the written questionnaires they filled out. i've been listening to all the audio.

In an audio, Desiree makes the bee comment as I posted above. No mention of allergy.

Yah I know..... Im not sure if you can be allergic to a bee without a sting ? Seems rather impossible to me. Not sure why or what happened that she never took it seriously, but then again she has always believed that TH is a liar.

Must be difficult when someone else is raising your child most of the time and you can't believe or trust what they say about your own child. Which again makes me wonder why did she even bother with TH and not just get info directly from Kaine, seems they are pretty close.

 

[purple turtle]

I am not saying that I think Terri is like this (I do not have enough information to form an opinion)

I am wondering if there are degrees of severity of Munchausen by proxy as there is with any mental illness or defect ...

For instance some years ago I knew a pregnant teenager who would take very hot baths to get the twin babies in utero upset and she would end up in the ER all so that she could have contact with the father. Not necessarily Munchausen by proxy but certainly some kind of narcissistic personality disorder that caused her to become justified in causing her babies discomfort so she could get what she wanted.

 

[txsvicki]

It would help to know just what type of lies Terri told. We've only heard of a couple, and the one she told her mother about moving in with Kaine is very explainable. Maybe they're comparing notes with all the things Terri said in long emails, and discovering lies, but it sounds like Terri was a very lonely and maybe slightly isolated person. It would also be interesting to know if Terri was doing lots of complaining about Kaine in these daily emails. Maybe she was trying to influence Desiree into trying for full custody.

 

[Pensfan]

yeah... wasn't her name Phyllis?

Please share where you read this info. TIA

 

[debs]

In an audio I listened to today, Kaine was asked just that question, TxsVicki. His response (after talking with Desiree about whether they wanted to get into it) was to take it back to 2005 and describe that period in their relationship where she wasn't being honest with him, lying about things. He listed as a couple of things her taking stimulants to lose the weight for the bodybuilding contest, her secret drinking, and "just other things." He describes how her mood changed after the contest, that she wasn't "the person he'd first met." It boggles the mind, listening to him getting angrier in this audio, why then he chose to marry her in 2007. He says these things aren't new, they were things he knew about then.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/terri_hormans_emails_to_kyron.html

 

[Chablis]

Baby K looked like an equally happy healthy little girl in all the pictures we've seen of her. Her father states all was fine in the home, he saw nothing amiss. What evidence is there that anything like Terri poisoning these children is there?

Stating baby K is a different child could be attributed to the time since her brother disappeared and the chaos turning into a routine (not one anyone would have chosen, to be sure.) I tend to think, however, it was made in an attempt to get Terri to react.

Yeah, and Haleigh and Caylee looked happy in pictures once, I think we know that really means nothing.

I think its very important to hear the babys demeanor had changed, maybe a weight of sorts had been lifted off her, I really don't know.

 

[Jo in Calif]

Speaking of pictures. I don't recall any pictures of Terri and Kyron, I mean just Terri and Kyron, like the ones we see with Desiree and Kyron, Kaine and Kyron, and IIRC there's one of Tony and Kyron. Even in the beginning when the pictures started cumming out, there's pictures of Terri and baby K. Have we seen any pictures of just Terri and Kyron?

 

[debs]

Speaking of pictures. I don't recall any pictures of Terri and Kyron, I mean just Terri and Kyron, like the ones we see with Desiree and Kyron, Kaine and Kyron, and IIRC there's one of Tony and Kyron. Even in the beginning when the pictures started cumming out, there's pictures of Terri and baby K. Have we seen any pictures of just Terri and Kyron?

Yes, there are quite a few. They look extremely happy together.

 

[SmoothOperator]

Speaking of pictures. I don't recall any pictures of Terri and Kyron, I mean just Terri and Kyron, like the ones we see with Desiree and Kyron, Kaine and Kyron, and IIRC there's one of Tony and Kyron. Even in the beginning when the pictures started cumming out, there's pictures of Terri and baby K. Have we seen any pictures of just Terri and Kyron?

I don't remember seeing any either. That certainly does not mean that there were not any.. I just cannot recall any off hand.. TIA to anyone who has a link to any...

 

[Chablis]

It boggles the mind, listening to him getting angrier in this audio, why then he chose to marry her in 2007. He says these things aren't new, they were things he knew about then.

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/terri_hormans_emails_to_kyron.html

What year was the baby born? Maybe thats why he married her?

 

[Jo in Calif]

Yes, there are quite a few. They look extremely happy together.

Were they just pictures of Terri and Kyron? Or pictures in a family setting? I'm talking of ones with just the two of them, like the ones with Terri and Baby K that we've seen.

 

[debs]

What year was the baby born? Maybe thats why he married her?

She was born in November, 2008. I'm pretty sure the April 2007 wedding wasn't shotgun-style.

 

[debs]

Were they just pictures of Terri and Kyron? Or pictures in a family setting? I'm talking of ones with just the two of them, like the ones with Terri and Baby K that we've seen.

Look on Cranky's photobucket. There are several pictures of just her and Kyron.

 

[Jo in Calif]

Look on Cranky's photobucket. There are several pictures of just her and Kyron.

How do I find that? Can you link it or something for me please, thanks.

 

[gitana1]

bbm.

That whole thing kinda was strange, IMHO. (Note: I am not criticizing Desiree, I am commenting on something I don't understand.) If my child was living with the father and the second spouse, I would appreciate the effort to include me in that child's daily life. And daily life is, in the main, made up of the "every little things". I'd be happy to be up-to-date when the child came to visit me.

But that's just me.

It might have been the tone. She might have found it strange. I know people like that, who ramble about things in a tone that seems a bit "off", like they're trying to get attention or something or lack an understanding of how to socialize or express oneself normally. Too emotive over mundane things, for example.
Another benign reason for the eye-roll and apparent criticism by DY about the e-mails could be that just about everything a person does suddenly becomes a source of criticism when you come to believe that person took your kid and won't say where he is.

 

[debs]

How do I find that? Can you link it or something for me please, thanks.

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Kyron Horman -OR-/

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Look on Cranky's photobucket. There are several pictures of just her and Kyron.

I also think Terri was the one behind the camera many times in the family photos.

I always seem to windup taking our family photos.

IMO

 

[Jo in Calif]

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Kyron Horman -OR-/

Thanks for the link. Went through all the pictures, Did not find one with just Terri and Kyron.

 

[Chablis]

She was born in November, 2008. I'm pretty sure the April 2007 wedding wasn't shotgun-style.

Actually, wouldnt she have been pregnant? She would have been conceived in Feb of 07- Or I cant do math, lol, sorry!

 

[Jo in Calif]

I also think Terri was the one behind the camera many times in the family photos.

I always seem to windup taking our family photos.

IMO

Someone was taking all the pictures we have seen of Terri and baby K.