Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #10 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[danzn16]

I'm really beginning to wonder about that fingerprint and DNA. From what I understand, the fingerprint has not matched anyone...which would include both bombers. If there is an unmatched fingerprint, doesn't that argue for additional suspects? Same thing with the "female" DNA...

I do believe that the mother is far more involved in this than was originally thought (and as she originally claimed). Far, far more involved. Either that, or Katherine is involved (I don't believe she is...but I can't explain how she isn't; I'm fairly sure that KRT has been printed in the past, either for work or for this, and she's been excluded as the print...but that's just speculation).

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Herding Cats

I agree about the mother. I hope the Feds exhaust all efforts to find out any involvement from her


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[Sillybilly]

I'm really beginning to wonder about that fingerprint and DNA. From what I understand, the fingerprint has not matched anyone...which would include both bombers. If there is an unmatched fingerprint, doesn't that argue for additional suspects? Same thing with the "female" DNA...

I do believe that the mother is far more involved in this than was originally thought (and as she originally claimed). Far, far more involved. Either that, or Katherine is involved (I don't believe she is...but I can't explain how she isn't; I'm fairly sure that KRT has been printed in the past, either for work or for this, and she's been excluded as the print...but that's just speculation).

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Herding Cats

They may well have KT and ZT's prints on file, but maybe whatever print they found was too smudged for a match. They would still be able to get the DNA from it though.

 

[noodled1]

Fingerprint is interesting. Feds saying they have no match yet. Don't know if it's a man's or woman's...

Obviously not the mother's or wife's. It takes very little time to match up prints, the mother's would be on file from her arrest and they have the wife's since yesterday. Not the bombers themselves or it wouldn't really be news. They'd just say we have a fingerprint form one of the brothers on a piece of the bomb.

 

[deoneta]

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio...4/tamerlan_tsarnaev_given_5566_in_college_aid

The Herald's story on TT's college aid.

 

[georger]

Two thoughts on the female fingerprint -

could it be ZT's and she purchased the pressure cookers before she left the US? Her fingerprints should be on file from the shoplifting arrest OR

LE is just floating that info to see if it draws someone out? They may have their eye on some people and hope this info will make a person do something?

Could it be from one of the hundreds of people injured and milling around at
the scene of the bombing, or from a clerk who sold the item?

Naw, couldn't be something that simple!

:banghead:

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Ok now they are confirming on CNN that the body of TT will be given to the family. And also, if I heard that correctly, that Ruslan visited KR today? Did someone catch this?

I heard that on Piers show too. Ruslan was in North Kingston today. They didn't say who Ruslan met with but I am thinking that they were probably at the lawyers re: disposition of TT's remains.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

Could it be from one of the hundreds of people injured and milling around at
the scene of the bombing, or from a clerk who sold the item?

Naw, couldn't be something that simple!

:banghead:

Georger, Your poor head! You need some ice for that

 

[Ray_of_hope]

I also heard that they collected a DNA sample from the little girl of TT and KRT, as well as from KRT.

 

[georger]

Georger, Your poor head! You need some ice for that

The DNA, from one of the two bombs - pc lid is being shown in news reports.
Print: quote: "One of the officials said a fingerprint had also been found on a "bomb fragment" and that investigators had tried to collect DNA and fingerprint samples from several people whom the authorities are scrutinizing in addition to Russell.

Maybe the pc piece involved, has something to do with the source of the dna,
and fingerprint.

Thanks.

:seeya:

 

[Ray_of_hope]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57582234/uncle-family-to-claim-boston-bomb-suspects-body/

 

[Ray_of_hope]

I know the DNA is reported to be from one of the Marathon bombs, but I don't know which one or even which piece. And I'm guessing they took buccal swabs for nuclear DNA. I don't know much more than that. Anyone? Thanks

 

[Elainera]

Oh my God :facepalm:

EXCLUSIVE: Saudi Arabia 'warned the United States IN WRITING about Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012'


The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia sent a written warning about accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2012, long before pressure-cooker blasts killed three and injured hundreds, according to a senior Saudi government official with direct knowledge of the document.

The Saudi warning, the official told MailOnline, was separate from the multiple red flags raised by Russian intelligence in 2011, and was based on human intelligence developed independently in Yemen.

Citing security concerns, the Saudi government also denied an entry visa to the elder Tsarnaev brother in December 2011, when he hoped to make a pilgrimage to Mecca, the source said. Tsarnaev's plans to visit Saudi Arabia have not been previously disclosed.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

That is just unbelievable.

 

[fruity]

Oh my God :facepalm:

EXCLUSIVE: Saudi Arabia 'warned the United States IN WRITING about Boston Bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev in 2012'


The Kingdom of Saudi Arabia sent a written warning about accused Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security in 2012, long before pressure-cooker blasts killed three and injured hundreds, according to a senior Saudi government official with direct knowledge of the document.

The Saudi warning, the official told MailOnline, was separate from the multiple red flags raised by Russian intelligence in 2011, and was based on human intelligence developed independently in Yemen.

Citing security concerns, the Saudi government also denied an entry visa to the elder Tsarnaev brother in December 2011, when he hoped to make a pilgrimage to Mecca, the source said. Tsarnaev's plans to visit Saudi Arabia have not been previously disclosed.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-application-entry-visa-visit-Mecca-2011.html

That is just unbelievable.

Wow.

Red flags from Saudi Arabia to have included Tsarnaev's name and information about a planned explosive attack on a major U.S. city

*snip*

The Saudis' warning to the U.S. government was also shared with the British government. 'It was very specific’ and warned that 'something was going to happen in a major U.S. city,' the Saudi official said during an extensive interview.
It 'did name Tamerlan specifically,' he added. The 'government-to-government' letter, which he said was sent to the Department of Homeland Security at the highest level, did not name Boston or suggest a date for his planned attack.

If it's true, it's very serious. It's being denied, of course.

If true, the account will produce added pressure on the Homeland Security department and the White House to explain their collective inaction after similar warnings were offered about Tsarnaev by the Russian government.
A DHS official denied, however, that the agency received any such warning from Saudi intelligence about Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
'DHS has no knowledge of any communication from the Saudi government regarding information on the suspects in the Boston Marathon Bombing prior to the attack,' MailOnline learned from one Homeland Security official who declined to be named in this report.
The White House took a similar view. 'We and other relevant U.S. government agencies have no record of such a letter being received,' said Caitlin Hayden, a spokesperson for the president’s National Security Council.

This is interesting, from Ray of Hope's link.

Amato DeLuca, the Rhode Island attorney for his widow, Katherine Russell, said in a statement Tuesday that his client had just learned that the medical examiner was ready to release Tsarnaev's body and that she wants it released to the Tsarnaev family.

*snip*

In addition to declining to claim the body herself, which is her right as his spouse, Russell has taken other steps to distance herself from Tsarnaev since taking refuge at her family's home on April 19, hours after her husband was killed. Her family released a statement shortly after she was escorted home by federal agents that day saying they "never really knew" Tsarnaev. Russell has also reverted to using her maiden name instead of the name listed on her marriage certificate, Tsarnaeva.

 

[Elainera]

From the same article:

He (Saudi official) dismissed the idea that Tamerlan Tsarnaev was likely trained by al Qaeda while he was outside the United States last year.

The Saudis' Yemen-based sources, he explained, said militants referred to Tamerlan dismissively as ‘the volunteer.’

'He was a gung-ho, self motivated jihadi who wasn't tasked by a larger group,' he said.

'There is no reason for anyone in Afghanistan to have in his thinking a scenario like this,' the official added, referring to pressure-cooker bombs at the Boston Marathon. 'He took the initiative. That’s why they call him "the volunteer."'

'The Boston thing is beneath them,’ he said of al Qaeda. ‘They don't think like this. This is like a firecracker to them. They want something big.'

 

[21merc7]

I'm really beginning to wonder about that fingerprint and DNA. From what I understand, the fingerprint has not matched anyone...which would include both bombers. If there is an unmatched fingerprint, doesn't that argue for additional suspects? Same thing with the "female" DNA...

I do believe that the mother is far more involved in this than was originally thought (and as she originally claimed). Far, far more involved. Either that, or Katherine is involved (I don't believe she is...but I can't explain how she isn't; I'm fairly sure that KRT has been printed in the past, either for work or for this, and she's been excluded as the print...but that's just speculation).

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Herding Cats

The only problem with the bombs from the marathon is that thousands of people were there, and, could have gotten any kind or amount of DNA on the parts, and, could have touched them. They may not even remember having touched them in a panic and shock, or may not have known what they were when they touched them. Doubt I'd remember touching any debris, just the horror and shock.

 

[Gardenlady]

Not to forget either that in addition to factory assemblers, store clerks, etc, these bombs were pieced together by the brothers. So any parts that were laying around that apartment could have been picked up, moved, or just touched by friends, acquaintances, family members, etc, before the bomb was assembled.

The item about the Saudi letter is interesting. I wonder if it will pan out to be true. One of the big problems leading up to 9/11 was the failure of FBI and CIA to communicate well and share information. With DHS denying they had a letter, I wonder if this will turn out to be more of the same type of failure of inter or intra-departmental communication?

Wouldn't be a surprise if it was.

 

[Elley Mae]

Tsarnaev case exposes faults in state welfare

http://bostonherald.com/news_opinio...tsarnaev_case_exposes_faults_in_state_welfare

The shocking news that the suspected marathon bombers were on the Bay State dole — even as the late Tamerlan Tsarnaev took a six-month jaunt to hang out with jihadis in Dagestan — has thrown a glaring national spotlight on the troubled Massachusetts welfare system.

 

[Gardenlady]

And I see again the Herald continues its partisan drumbeat against social programs in that *opinion* piece.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.abc6.com/story/22124771/tamerlan-tsarneavs-body-to-be-released-to-family

His cause of death will not be made public until his remains are claimed.

 

[Just K]

Too many cooks:
DHS
FBI
CIA
and The National Security Council
Local LE agencies (Police Departments and Sheriff's Departments)

Apparently no one communicating between any of these agencies.