Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #11 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[Kimberlyd125]

Never mind.
It has been removed.

 

[CARIIS]

Several of Todashev's former roommates who were questioned by the FBI said he knew Tamerlan Tsarnaev, an aspiring boxer, from mixed martial arts fighting in Boston and that the FBI was asking about him.

"He's a regular guy, nothing wrong," Saeed Dunkaev said of Todashev.

Muslin Chapkhanov, another former roommate, said Todashev knew the older Tsarnaev brother. Todashev "was living in Boston and I think he trained with him," Chapkhanov said.

Former roommate Khusen Taramov said the FBI was asking questions about a conversation Todashev had with the older bombing suspect a month before the Boston Marathon attack.

That's what he asked me before he pretty much died," Taramov said. "He asked me, 'If something happens can you go out and tell all the truth. What exactly happened.'"

Like Todashev, the Tsarnaev brothers have roots in the turbulent Russian regions of Dagestan and Chechnya

Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/...man-fatally-shot-in-boston.html#storylink=cpy

 

[CARIIS]

Yeah - more great stuff from Herald!


B I N G O!

As for Weissman, he was arrested in Boston in 2008 after an officer pulled him over for a traffic violation and smelled marijuana in his car, according to a police report. A police search found a large freezer bag and two small jars full of pot, as well as hidden compartments behind the radio and in a rug. Weissman had a large wad of cash.

She said authorities on Wednesday came simultaneously to Todashev's home, her home in the Atlanta area and her mother's place in Savannah, Ga. "It was only because he knew" Tsarnaev, she said. "That was it."

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"Out of fear of the lawlessness in Chechnya, I sent him to the U.S., because it seemed like the safest country at the time," the distraught father said. "Now I'm thinking about how to bring home his body. As it turns out I sent him to his death."






Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/05/23/3412499/father-of-man-shot-in-boston-probe.html#storylink=cpy

 

[Kimberlyd125]

This is an interesting article that brings the same questions I raised earlier to light. Glad to read that all of us are not being led down the path to believe whatever is written! What happened to the truth on IT's shooting? Whatever else is being investigated on him does not need to be reported to the public!

The following quote is taken from the above article:
The New York Times points out that there may even be public questioning of who, exactly, killed the would-be accomplice: "It was not certain who, or how many officers, had fired on Mr. Todashev." BBM

You have to be kidding! How in the he?? is a public questioning going to answer anything regarding this incident in the apt.?? AND, they don't know who or how many officers fired on Todashev!!

I will say it COVERUP!!!! :banghead:

Who is covering what up exactly?

 

[CARIIS]

an account from an acquaintance of the suspects&#8212;a student at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth who was once romantically involved with Dzhokhar Tsarnaev himself&#8212;helps shed light on the individuals now at the center of the investigation.:

Around the same time, she says, she met Tsarnaev's college buddies Dias Kadyrbayev, Azamat Tazhayakov, and Robel Phillipos, the men now accused of helping Tsarnaev dispose of evidence and lying to investigators after the bombing.

Kadyrbayev and Tazhayakov, the woman said, were part of a group of about five Russian-speaking friends at the university whom Tsarnaev was never without. "They all sort of idolized Jahar,"

She said that of the friends, Tsarnaev was the most popular and in touch with campus social life.

she said, while hanging around campus with them, smoking pot and listening to music. She says her romantic relationship with Tsarnaev lasted for about two weeks. "I met him standing outside a building and honestly, his face was enough to capture my heart," she explained, noting that lots of women fawned over him. "I walked right up to him and I was like, 'Oh my God, you are adorable. Can we hang out?' I'm very forward."

Her nascent romance with Tsarnaev soon soured, though, after he invited her to come to his dorm room alone. "He wanted to go further than I did, and that made me uncomfortable, and I realized that that's not the kind of person that I wanted to be around," she says. "I don't think that's necessarily being a terrorist. I think that's just called being a hands-y teenaged boy."

If anything, Tsarnaev's friend Kadyrbayev may have been more religious, in her view. She described a falling out she had with Kadyrbayev a few months after meeting him. "I went out to a party and he made a comment about how my dress was kind of inappropriate because it was kind of revealing," she says.

Kadyrbayev: Among his posts is a poem attributed to Kazakh poet Abai Qunanbaiuli that defines a good wife as smart, thrifty, and modest. Yet, that would seem at odds with several images that Kadyrbayev has also posted of scantily clad women, as well as a crude cartoon about marijuana, alcohol, and rape.

They just seemed goofy, kind of lackadaisical, not interested in their studies. But, you know, whatever, it was their first semester of college. No one really cared about books."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics...girlfriend-boston-marathon-bombing-3-suspects


A second former high school classmate told Mother Jones: "I did know Jahar. In the 4 years of high school I spent with him, he was nothing but a kind, unassuming, gentle person. He was funny, had lots of friends, and was very athletic. I haven't spoken with him since high school (we graduated in the same class from Cambridge Rindge & Latin)."

A whole bunch of tweats (neat read much more than we have heard before) that did not have that main stream zap , but paint the most realistic picture oh him. He was a college kid , doing what all college kids do and got off track --

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/04/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-boston-bombing-tweets


Older brother had not heard this before:
The Russian newspaper Novaya Gazeta quoted a Russian law enforcement source as saying that during a six-month visit to Dagestan in 2012, Tamerlan Tsarnaev was seen "more than once" meeting with Makhmud Mansur Nidal, suspected of being part of a rebel group that previously had planted two bombs in the Dagestani capital of Makhachkala.

http://www.latimes.com/search/dispa...et=adv_article&sortby=display_time+descending

 

[CARIIS]

This is an interesting article that brings the same questions I raised earlier to light. Glad to read that all of us are not being led down the path to believe whatever is written! What happened to the truth on IT's shooting? Whatever else is being investigated on him does not need to be reported to the public!

The following quote is taken from the above article:
The New York Times points out that there may even be public questioning of who, exactly, killed the would-be accomplice: "It was not certain who, or how many officers, had fired on Mr. Todashev." BBM

You have to be kidding! How in the he?? is a public questioning going to answer anything regarding this incident in the apt.?? AND, they don't know who or how many officers fired on Todashev!!

I will say it COVERUP!!!! :banghead:

More I learn - agree - it is the reasonIMO. the interagation being conducted by the FBI in suspects home ---they kinda new that it would be ok if it "turned out" like this.

Way to much stuff off SOP for the FBI

 

[CARIIS]

Why did his friend say IT thought he was going to get shot?

Becasue the FBI began following him....they followed him non stop since two days after the bombings!

 

[danzn16]

I remember back right after the bombings occurred there was a picture posted of a man on top of a building and many people were wondering why that was or if they were involved. I talked to one of the physicians that helped at the scene today and they said that before the race even started they noticed a National Guard soldier on top of a building monitoring the crowd for any danger. Just thought I'd post that in case any one else was wondering about it.

 

[CARIIS]

Ashley Goodwin, who was close with Mess since they attended Cambridge Ridge & Latin School, said Mess was a great friend and her helped through a tough part of her life. She said she used to have sushi and Indian food lunches with Mess.

Mess, a boxer, was a tough guy who was always willing to defend somebody but displayed a goofy, generous side as well, according to friends and family

other friend Mess said Teken worked as a valet parking attendant on Moody Street and for T-Mobile at the Arsenal Mall in Watertown.

http://waltham.patch.com/articles/candlelight-vigil-held-for-waltham-triple-murder-victims

 

[CARIIS]

timeline on the recent triple murder in Waltham

http://waltham.patch.com/articles/timeline-how-waltham-triple-murder-unfolded

 

[CARIIS]

He cannot understand how F.B.I. agents couldn&#8217;t handle one man without shooting him. After 8-hour-long questioning.&#8221;

Before this trouble I thought America was a free democratic country, where unlike in Russia, laws worked.&#8221;

Todashev&#8217;s parents had big plans for this summer. Last time they spoke on the phone, Ibrahim said he had a ticket to Moscow for May 24, and planned to spend the summer with his family in Chechnya. &#8220;He also mentioned that F.B.I. had questioned him about Tsarnaevs; I told him he should not be worried,

His son was planning to visit his home earlier, but officials did not let him leave the US.
( ME: Sounds far more credible than this IMO, nonsense , that the FBI put in a request that he hang around!)

Once the body is released, they plan to arrange for it to be shipped back to Russia for burial.

&#8220;It is very important to his family that the body is buried in Russia,&#8221; Taramov said. &#8220;And, knowing him, [Todashev] would have wanted to be buried in his country, back at home.&#8221;

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...iple-murder/T12hTgk4RubFutCdlw2J4O/story.html

Ms. Manukyan, an Armenian who converted to Islam before marrying Mr. Todashev, says she met her late husband in 2010 through a mutual friend in Boston.

He lived in the Boston area from 2008 to 2010 before moving to the Atlanta area, and then Florida, she said.

Mr. Todashev did share some commonalities with Mr. Tsarnaev, at least on the surface. They were tough men, an MMA fighter and boxer, with Chechen backgrounds who trained at the same gym and at one point lived only blocks away from each other in Cambridge, Mass. They both dressed well, with a flashy, European look. They were also Muslims who prayed before working out, Mr. Trites said.

http://www.boston.com/metrodesk/201...iple-murder/T12hTgk4RubFutCdlw2J4O/story.html

WSJ:

But their personalities were very different. Mr. Tsarnaev was outgoing and jocular, Mr. Todashev serious and reserved, Mr. Trites said

Mr. Todashev didn't appear to know Mr. Mess, who also trained at the Wai Kru gym.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323475304578500883785930480.html

He competed in mixed martial arts&#8212;which draws on a range of combat disciplines, including jujitsu, wrestling, boxing and kickboxing&#8212;, sometimes fighting under the alias Ibrahim Tody, said Chris Palmquist, chief operating officer of Mixed Martial Arts LLC, which maintains the official registry of MMA fighters for the Association of Boxing Commissions. Mr. Todashev became part of the registry in Massachusetts in 2009, he said.

A friend, Umar Taramov, said he and his younger brother accompanied Mr. Todashev to meet investigators Tuesday but left because the meeting was lasting hours. He said his younger brother returned and was shocked to find Mr. Todashev had been shot.

 

[CARIIS]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323975004578501360359119672.html

 

[jjenny]

New article about TT's buddy killed by FBI.

"Ibragim Todashev, a 27-year-old mixed martial arts fighter formerly from Allston and Cambridge, was shot in the kitchen of his apartment after overturning a table and attacking the agent with a blade, the officials said. The Globe has *reported that the shooting came after Todashev had implicated himself in a grisly 2011 triple homicide in Waltham. *Tamerlan Tsarnaev was friendly with one of the Waltham victims, and authorities suspect he may also have taken part in the slayings."
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/20...ston-office/lQpwweme1EzUqINkue8fGO/story.html

 

[1&2&3]

Who is covering what up exactly?

The facts of what happened in the apartment with the various government officials representing different branches, the FBI, and one suspect should be an easy story to tell. A+B+C happened, the suspect did such and such threatening the agents life, and officer ADG shot him. All people in the room are there for one purpose, one goal, and surely someone was wired! They should have seen the whole scene, heard the whole scene, been prepared and ready for what the perp "might" try next.

However, less than 48 hours later, the story keeps drastically changing as to it is not known what object the suspect had or how he obtained it, who shot him or how many times he was shot. A public hearing may need to be held to discover these facts. This meeting occurred behind closed doors, in an apt., but maybe the public can help?

See where a COVERUP is??!! Everything that was originaly reported, is being backtracked and withdrawn with great speed. Something went terribly wrong in that room, the information that got out does not fit with the story that NEEDS to be told. Coverup of what? That is the 50 million dollar question! All the retracking on this story is catching too many eyes. Only time will tell. . .:banghead:

 

[SophieRose]

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/story/2...al-at-complex-where-man-was-shot-by-fbi-agent

Residents of the complex where Todashev lived said they saw agents camped out in the area for weeks and they had interviewed Todashev more than once, always late at night.

"We'd see people we had never seen before, just kind of sitting and watching, and kind of wondering why they were questioning him late at night," said Jason Hayes. "They had been parked right in the same area, watching for months," Carvajal added.

 

[CuriousGrace]

The facts of what happened in the apartment with the various government officials representing different branches, the FBI, and one suspect should be an easy story to tell. A+B+C happened, the suspect did such and such threatening the agents life, and officer ADG shot him. All people in the room are there for one purpose, one goal, and surely someone was wired! They should have seen the whole scene, heard the whole scene, been prepared and ready for what the perp "might" try next.

However, less than 48 hours later, the story keeps drastically changing as to it is not known what object the suspect had or how he obtained it, who shot him or how many times he was shot. A public hearing may need to be held to discover these facts. This meeting occurred behind closed doors, in an apt., but maybe the public can help?

See where a COVERUP is??!! Everything that was originaly reported, is being backtracked and withdrawn with great speed. Something went terribly wrong in that room, the information that got out does not fit with the story that NEEDS to be told. Coverup of what? That is the 50 million dollar question! All the retracking on this story is catching too many eyes. Only time will tell. . .:banghead:

:goodpost:

And this is one of the main reasons why many of us are choosing to reserve judgement for DT (and the extent of his involvement) until the probable hearing on July 2nd and until more unfolds from an official investigation. I am skeptical of what has been reported and leaked from an anonymous "FBI official sources", too many discrepancies up to this point in many of the stories. This latest development, IT's shooting death in Orlando, displays how the media can get the actual facts significantly wrong and the story will begin to circulate in MSM.

 

[claudicici]

I remember back right after the bombings occurred there was a picture posted of a man on top of a building and many people were wondering why that was or if they were involved. I talked to one of the physicians that helped at the scene today and they said that before the race even started they noticed a National Guard soldier on top of a building monitoring the crowd for any danger. Just thought I'd post that in case any one else was wondering about it.

yes,I've always been wondering about that.It makes me think if it may have been a sting operation gone terribly wrong.

 

[claudicici]

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323975004578501360359119672.html

It won't let me read it.I guess you'd have to subscribe to WSJ

 

[CARIIS]

It won't let me read it.I guess you'd have to subscribe to WSJ

That happened a couple of times to me but then sometimes it let me in . I dotn know refresh its a mystery like ours here !

 

[CARIIS]

The interview his friend, and the friends affect , I beleive him. The reality here is IMO, FBI used same tactics as they did with younger. Hassle the dude, think how any of us would feel if for 30 days now you got cars follwoing you, across the street staring at you, calling you, talking to everyone you know.

It would make a unguility person feel agitated, angry

And in this instance I do believe his father and friend. He probably had something to do with thriple, they had been playing him it was about Boston.

IN apartment in the 8th hour of being hounded harrassing him to sign confession re Boston not triple and he lost it.

It was aggressive, (more aggressive than most others IMO who have murdered 3 people)>

Come on we see it in the movies put the pressure on.

i would bet we will never see the interview if it was taped -- in that they were IMO abusive, threatening, manipulative with the guy.

No matter what ya think of the guy IMO, vilatese everything that we all are suppossed to be free from --------------harassment

No mentin that they read him his Miranda

puttin on the squeeze and in this instance what did the FBI get --a corpse not very helpful in the big picture here.