Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #11 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[Kimberlyd125]

How many people were killed and maimed in Boston that day?

How many people were killed and maimed in the Fertilizer Explosion. Noone knows one thing about it a month and half later.
What we do know , it it killed more people, and much more damage than Boston.
Nothing -- we know nothing!

What does that have to do with this thread?

Both were horrific.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

When you say best , what does that mean for you?

Everything!
And if you don't get it, you never will.

 

[katydid23]

I think there were violations of rights. Again I am not saying anyone or anything is againist us. I am saying length of the interogation (and lack of any new info about what happened in detail) are food for thought.

Imagine it , we all read that in Iraq the govt interivewed someone for 8 hours, with no arrest, and he is shot.

We would all be IMO, up in arms - what they kept him for 8 hours and still did not have anything to arrest him on .

We don't know if there were any violations of rights or not. Maybe he happily blabbed for 8 straight hours. Plenty of narcissists do just that. And he KNEW he was about to go down for those murders. maybe he was trying to make a plea deal or exchange some info in exchange for his own freedom. How do you know there was nothing to arrest him on?

This kid was in cahoots with the terrorist brothers, imo. He was an enemy of this country and was probably planning his own Jihad. He was also a cold blooded killer. So when I hear that he was shot at the end of a long interrogation, I just feel relieved, and not outraged. JMO

As for Iraq, he would not have lasted the full 8 hours, imo.

 

[CARIIS]

It went from a knife, to an ice pick to some long object.

I do not know I would be more scared if someone said I am going to stab you with a knife.

Or I am going to stick you with this ice pick.

I am going to hurt you with this long object -?

Scary, they could not distinguish , for days, if it was a long thing, a knife, or an icepick.

I would think that would be easily determined whenl he fell over dead,,, look around his hands , may be a clue there.

 

[CARIIS]

We don't know if there were any violations of rights or not. Maybe he happily blabbed for 8 straight hours. Plenty of narcissists do just that. And he KNEW he was about to go down for those murders. maybe he was trying to make a plea deal or exchange some info in exchange for his own freedom. How do you know there was nothing to arrest him on?

This kid was in cahoots with the terrorist brothers, imo. He was an enemy of this country and was probably planning his own Jihad. He was also a cold blooded killer. So when I hear that he was shot at the end of a long interrogation, I just feel relieved, and not outraged. JMO

As for Iraq, he would not have lasted the full 8 hours, imo.

Authorities are saying they were interested in the triple murders. There is no concrete link that he had anything to do with Boston.

He knew someone that came from the country he did, that had the same passions and interests as one another, and went to the gym together, that knew his language, that knows what conditions are over there, that have family over there. Those are pretty huge dynamics that in all liklihood would result in a relationship - COMMONALITY. A human trait............

This notion that because he knew him means anything??

Lots of people knew Ted Bundy, Ruby Oswald etc etc-- means nothing, IMO

He knew someone who turned out to be a bad person. That is not a crime. Innoncent till proven guilty - we have no idea if he even had anything to do with the triple, now do we??

 

[katydid23]

How many people were killed and maimed in Boston that day?

How many people were killed and maimed in the Fertilizer Explosion. Noone knows one thing about it a month and half later.
What we do know , it it killed more people, and much more damage than Boston.
Nothing -- we know nothing!

It was probably an industrial ACCIDENT. As awful as it was, fertilizer factories are highly dangerous and people know that.

But we have videos of the brothers dropping off those bombs on the sidewalk, and witnesses who saw them as well. That is why there is more outrage in this explosion compared to the fertilizer plant. One was an accident, although possibly negligence. But the Boston one was Premeditated MURDER.


eta;

The investigation has identified three possible sources of ignition: a golf cart that apparently had been subject to a recall, a secondary electrical system, or an intentional, criminal act.
Investigators will rule the cause as "undetermined," for now, the government official said.
"If it's the first two" - that is, a spark from the golf cart or the electrical system - "they don't think they'll ever be able to confirm it, due to the damage," the official said.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/2013...urces-for-west-fertilizer-plant-explosion.ece

 

[katydid23]

Authorities are saying they were interested in the triple murders. There is no concrete link that he had anything to do with Boston.

He knew someone that came from the country he did, that had the same passions and interests as one another, and went to the gym together, That they have stated clearly.

Lots of people knew Ted Bundy, Ruby Oswald etc etc-- means nothing, IMO

He knew someone who turned out to be a bad person. That is not a crime. Innoncent till proven guilty - we have no idea if he even had anything to do with the triple.

I think you are glossing it over. It is more than just friends from the home country. They had been looking into the Waltham murder for months already. They did not spend 8 hrs interrogating with 6 agents, if it was just 'looking into' a possible connection. JMO

 

[Kimberlyd125]

It went from a knife, to an ice pick to some long object.

I do not know I would be more scared if someone said I am going to stab you with a knife.

Or I am going to stick you with this ice pick.

I am going to hurt you with this long object -?

Scary, they could not distinguish , for days, if it was a long thing, a knife, or an icepick.

I would think that would be easily determined whenl he fell over dead,,, look around his hands , may be a clue there.

It wasn't that they could not distinguish.
That information was coming from multiple unnamed sources who didn't have authority to be speaking to begin with. So, rumors? Yep.

The only information that we have that came from a named source is that the agent faced imminent danger, was injured, and fired at the criminal in self-defense.

To think someone just kept changing their mind and reporting different objects is crazy.

 

[katydid23]

It went from a knife, to an ice pick to some long object.

I do not know I would be more scared if someone said I am going to stab you with a knife.

Or I am going to stick you with this ice pick.

I am going to hurt you with this long object -?

Scary, they could not distinguish , for days, if it was a long thing, a knife, or an icepick.

I would think that would be easily determined whenl he fell over dead,,, look around his hands , may be a clue there.

"Todashev allegedly began writing, but then flipped a table over, knocking the Boston FBI agent into the wall hitting his head. FOX 25's Bob Ward was told the agent looked up to see Todashev waving in his direction what was described as a Banzai ceremonial sword. Fearing for his life, the FBI agent drew his weapon and fatally shot Todashev. The entire incident taking only seconds."

Read more: http://www.myfoxboston.com/story/224...#ixzz2UhKtdd4X

 

[Elley Mae]

What if?

I wonder if IT was able to talk and answer questions in regards to the bombing and how he knew DT & TT, how he came to come to the usa and all the other questions until the questions turned to the 3 murders and that is when he lost his composure and could no longer contain himself.

btw have we seen all 6 of the photos from autopsy or just the two?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Authorities are saying they were interested in the triple murders. There is no concrete link that he had anything to do with Boston.

He knew someone that came from the country he did, that had the same passions and interests as one another, and went to the gym together, that knew his language, that knows what conditions are over there, that have family over there. Those are pretty huge dynamics that in all liklihood would result in a relationship - COMMONALITY. A human trait............

This notion that because he knew him means anything??

Lots of people knew Ted Bundy, Ruby Oswald etc etc-- means nothing, IMO

He knew someone who turned out to be a bad person. That is not a crime. Innoncent till proven guilty - we have no idea if he even had anything to do with the triple, now do we??

He also had ties to rebels in Chechnya.
You forgot to include that tidbit.



The officials say Todashev had some connections with radical Chechen rebels, but they say it's not clear whether he had any role in radicalizing Tsarnaev.

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...2011-murders-shot-during-fbi-questioning?lite

 

[Kimberlyd125]

What if?

I wonder if IT was able to talk and answer questions in regards to the bombing and how he knew DT & TT, how he came to come to the usa and all the other questions until the questions turned to the 3 murders and that is when he lost his composure and could no longer contain himself.

btw have we seen all 6 of the photos from autopsy or just the two?

I've only seen two. The two his father wants everyone to see.

 

[CARIIS]

It's not the questioning that some have a problem with. It's the accusations.
The FBI has been accused here, on this thread, of a cover up with absolutely nothing to back up the accusation. NOTHING

It's infuriating really.

We really don't know enough to question what happened in Orlando with the FBI and other LE agencies there. Because we don't know what happened.

Some are jumping to conclusions and pointing fingers when there is no information.

Originally Posted by SophieRose
I don't understand what the problem is with questioning what happened in Orlando with the FBI and other LE agencies there. It's how change occurs

TY!
Noone is pointing fingers , someone (me) is asking questions.

The flip holds here too. We do not know if he was incahoots with anyone. We do not know he did the triple murders.We do not know he wanted to hurt Americans. We do not know if her knew about the bombing.

We know he had impulse issues, as evidenced by behaviors, but check out the news!!!!!!

We know nothing! Again.

So IMO folks are pointing fingers at someone we know nothing about.

The fact that he became a friend of someone from the same country as him, who shared a language, who liked boxing together, who were close in age, who were into fitness, who shared similiar religous beliefs , who knew some of the same friends, who lived nearby at some point,who knows what living over there is like,who knows what living here is like means. That means they were friends.

That is all we know..........

Ted Bundy had friends.....Ruby Osawald had friends, whats the deal?

THAT is all we know, all we can prove, all we have been told.

They knew one another -- that a crime ?

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Originally Posted by SophieRose
I don't understand what the problem is with questioning what happened in Orlando with the FBI and other LE agencies there. It's how change occurs

TY!
Noone is pointing fingers , someone (me) is asking questions.

The flip holds here too. We do not know if he was incahoots with anyone. We do not know he did the triple murders.

We do not know if her knew about the bombing.
We know nothing! Again.

So IMO folks are pointing fingers at someone we know nothing about.

The fact that he became a friend of someone from the same country as him, who shared a language, who liked boxing together, who lived nearby at some point,who knows what living over there is like,who knows what living here is like means = they were friends.

Ted Bundy had friends.....Ruby Osawald had friends, whats the deal?

THAT is all we know, all we can prove, all we have been told.

They knew one another -- that a crime ?
The fact

You are purposely leaving out a lot of damaging information that we know about this guy.

 

[katydid23]

If IT was an innocent, who just happened to know the brothers, then why would he suddenly and violently turn the table over and lunge at an FBI agent?

 

[CARIIS]

You are purposely leaving out a lot of damaging information that we know about this guy.

Like?

 

[CARIIS]

If IT was an innocent, who just happened to know the brothers, then why would he suddenly and violently turn the table over and lunge at an FBI agent?

He had been followed for weeks, he had been questioned for hours, and we do not know if he took his right of silence and attempted to leave.

 

[CARIIS]

If IT was an innocent, who just happened to know the brothers, then why would he suddenly and violently turn the table over and lunge at an FBI agent?

And......................at the start he had a knife...................................then maybe a ice pick.................................................

Now a long object - I can not imagine , getting that wrong three times ................

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Like?

This thread is covered with it.

Just a few examples off the top of my head:

1) ties to rebels
2) rage so bad over losing a parking spot that he beat the carp out of a man. Leaving him in a pool of blood with head injuries, loose teeth, and a split lip.
3) being kicked out of several gyms for having fights on the streets
4) suspected of killing 3 men and slitting their throats from ear to ear

I'm sure there's more. He was no Mr. Rogers.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

And......................at the start he had a knife...................................then maybe a ice pick.................................................

Now a long object - I can not imagine , getting that wrong three times ................

Can you not understand that those versions came from multiple people who WERE NOT THERE???
Multiple unnamed sources.

Nobody CHANGED THEIR story. It's just multiple stories from multiple sources.