Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #6 *SUSPECT APPREHENDED*

[gxm]

I believe the older brother was the one into the radical ideas.
Younger one isn't even described as being all that religious.
I certainly don't think the younger one would have been smoking pot and drinking with friends (as alleged by friends) if he was a devout Muslim.

Someone mentioned yesterday how similar this case is to the DC sniper and the young follower who's life he ruined. I agree with you that the older brother was the instigator.

 

[jjenny]

Someone mentioned yesterday how similar this case is to the DC sniper and the young follower who's life he ruined. I agree with you that the older brother was the instigator.

I don't give a pass to someone just because he was younger. He is 19, a legal adult.
He went to college, he had many friends, he fit in.
He could have turned his brother in.

 

[Sonya610]

That's not true in the slightest when you get to the level of the everyday folks doing the deeds. The clerics themselves may profess an anti-Western sentiment and disdain for all that goes with it, but the random hate-filled-but-no-quite-so-true-to-faith activist is often very interested in status.

Blowing innocent people up in the name of Jihad isn't an "everyday folks" kind of thing IMO.

 

[WhoaIsMe]

snipped up a bit

I think the comment from LE and the homeowner about the amount of blood inside the boat tells us he was there for quite sometime.

I know, I was implying that he could have gotten in the night before when he abandoned his stolen car but now I don't care :floorlaugh: and think he did, somehow, muster the strength to climb out and then collapse

 

[nursebeeme]

Someone mentioned yesterday how similar this case is to the DC sniper and the young follower who's life he ruined. I agree with you that the older brother was the instigator.

I heard this comparison on talk radio yesterday as well. The reporter said she was told this by le (comparison). I was listening live so I don't have a link

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I did some quick research on U-Mass/Dartmouth for tuition/room & board fees for #2 suspect who was a student there. It has been reported that the 19-year-old sophomore received a $2500 scholarship from the city; no mention of additional scholarships/financial awards.

Totals (full year - Undergraduate)

Tuition plus fees (Massachusetts resident) $11,681.00

Tuition plus room & board and fees $23,028.00

(based on 19 meal plan and double room for a full year)
*includes a $339 telecommunications fee--resident students only

http://www.umassd.edu/

 

[x_files]

I don't give a pass to someone just because he was younger. He is 19, a legal adult.
He went to college, he had many friends, he fit in.
He could have turned his brother in.

I have an older brother and would not do or listen to a word he said. I would have turned him in. But, I did not worship him.
I think that's part of the problem here he liked/loved/adored his older brother may have gotten along with him more than his own father and mother.

 

[gxm]

I don't give a pass to someone just because he was younger. He is 19, a legal adult.
He went to college, he had many friends, he fit in.
He could have turned his brother in.

I didn't say he should get a pass. I'm saying that, IMO, his older brother killed five people. I realize it's not a popular opinion and have no quarrel with those who don't agree with me.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bombing-suspects-mother-this-is-a-set-up/

“What I can say is I am really sure, I am like 100-percent sure that this is a set-up,” the woman said. “My two sons are really innocent, and I know that neither of them never, never have talked about whatever they’re saying about now, and what I want to say is … my youngest one was raised actually … from 8 years, he was raised in America, and my oldest son, he is like really, really proper raised in our house, never, nobody talked about terrorism.”

 

[Paulette]

I didn't say he should get a pass. I'm saying that, IMO, his older brother killed five people. I realize it's not a popular opinion and have no quarrel with those who don't agree with me.

Wasn't it the 19 year old that left the back pack at Martin's feet?

Surely he's responsible for killing and maiming the people with that back pack device.

 

[gngr~snap]

Question: Does Dzhokhar have experience in boxing like his older brother Tamerlan did?

"His younger brother, Dzhokar, 19, graduated in 2011 from Cambridge Rindge & Latin School, the alma mater of actors Matt Damon and Ben Affleck. The city awarded Dzhokar a $2,500 scholarship. And he, too, was an athlete -- a wrestler. He was named student athlete of the month and made the state playoffs."

"His younger brother started coming to the gym from the time he was 10, McCarthy said. Dzhokar followed Tamerlan around like a puppy. He'd be just behind him, doing calisthenics."

http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/19/us/massachusetts-bombers-profiles/index.html

 

[ami]

I'm really curious about the "firefight" LE described once they realized #2 was in the boat. I wonder if he was actually strong and conscious enough to shoot a gun out the top of the boat cover from his position in the bottom of the boat after bleeding from gunshots all day.

Not that it matters; LE did what they had to do to remain safe, but each time I read that #2 engaged them in a fire-fight I just wonder how on earth he managed to do such a thing in that position, in that condition.

 

[x_files]

http://www.wnd.com/2013/04/bombing-suspects-mother-this-is-a-set-up/

“What I can say is I am really sure, I am like 100-percent sure that this is a set-up,” the woman said. “My two sons are really innocent, and I know that neither of them never, never have talked about whatever they’re saying about now, and what I want to say is … my youngest one was raised actually … from 8 years, he was raised in America, and my oldest son, he is like really, really proper raised in our house, never, nobody talked about terrorism.”

I'd love an speech analyst and body language expert to profile her, the outspoken crazy Aunt and Father.
You cannot know 100% they did not do it, unless she was with them atm or she knew who did. She's either in serious denial or covering her own arse.
She taught them stealing from Lords and Taylor was ok.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-04-19-15-36-49

The FBI on Friday removed a computer from the New Jersey home of a sister of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects. Police said she was cooperating with the investigation and was "heartbroken, surprised and upset," though she told reporters she wasn't sure the accusations against her brothers were true.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

I believe he was on the school wrestling team and quite good. I think that was in high school.

Right, I know that he was a captain. My boys wrestled for years but my 16 y/o actually stopped when he got to HS bc he chose running over it (He runs all 3 seasons of school). However my 19 y/o wrestled until he graduated, for HS as well as another wrestling club. We've travelled all over for wrestling tournaments - I'm talking ALL over. I went through my sons brackets & didn't see Jhar's name. That doesn't mean anything, just makes me wonder if he wrestled in any big tournaments that get you scouted & rated or not...

But, I really want to know if he boxed or not bc in reviewing some of his online footprints, I'm wondering if his older brother could have been posting on some of his younger bro's accounts.

 

[Paulette]

I'd be satisfied with a state trial - a federal trial would dispatch his soul to h*** faster with a lethal injection - but if it comes right down to it, a state trial may have to do.

Either way, he will never walk the streets again.

I wonder if he'll lose his leg from the bullet wound? Now that would be a fitting end for him.

 

[BigCat]

I agree belimom. I think he wanted to be rich and famous. He found out he was just going to have to become an ordinary working citizen in the land of Golden Dreams. Not understanding it just wasn't in his cards, nor millions of the rest of us.

He started hating America b/c he could not and started judging morally and probably financially. Unwilling to work hard to obtain more, (well, I guess I would fall into that category, I just work to pay the bills, not hard to get ahead or make a load of $$$).

I think he tried to disguise his own laziness and lack of motivation via religion. If he influenced the younger one I don't know. Probably, and the younger one not having enough experience to decide different does not excuse. He was old enough to know right from wrong. But, the family's own words show that this was a lifelong way of viewing things, so, there still is no excuse for either.

What you just described would also make him a likely recruit. A person skilled in covert operations would recognize him as such. In addition, the fact that suspect one was caucasian and lived in the US only made him more appealing. His ability to blend in would outweigh any concern that he might be a loose cannon.

Also, if the suspects were such "losers" -- their uncle's own term -- then how did they manage to pull off the first significant terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 without assistance?

I just don't know. I can see it both ways. I have to wait until more information is available before I can make a confident guess.

Unfortunately, I think it's a real possibility the younger brother knows very little. The way a cell works is for no participant to know the chain of command beyond his immediate superior.





JMO

 

[sorrell skye]

I don't give a pass to someone just because he was younger. He is 19, a legal adult.
He went to college, he had many friends, he fit in.
He could have turned his brother in.

I won't give him a pass, either. I'm not buying the older brother peer pressure angle. What's next - a "Just Say No To Terrorists" campaign?

DT participated in making homemade explosives, participated in blowing up innocent people - including children; participated in murdering innocent people - including an 8 year old child.

The coddling of today's young people wears thin. The perpetual excuses made for today's young people is one of the reasons so many of the younger generation are out of control, IMO.

When my kids were growing up, if they did something wrong, I held them personally accountable, even if they tried to blame it on one of their friends or tried to claim that it was so-and-so's idea. Finger-pointing made me livid. I told them "You made the decision to participate, you're responsible for your own decisions. You're accountable for your own actions."

DT is responsible (and will be held responsible) for his heinous decisions. He is accountable (and will be held accountable) for his murderous actions.

 

[gxm]

Wasn't it the 19 year old that left the back pack at Martin's feet?

Surely he's responsible for killing and maiming the people with that back pack device.

Yes. Just as the DC sniper's young follower killed and maimed innocent people. I don't think either of the followers would have done so on their own. I may be wrong. We may find out that the younger brother was the instigator, but that's just not my gut feeling.

 

[Sonya610]

I have an older brother and would not do or listen to a word he said. I would have turned him in. But, I did not worship him.
I think that's part of the problem here he liked/loved/adored his older brother may have gotten along with him more than his own father and mother.

Never thought of it like that. I thought if a family member suggested "Hey lets bomb some random innocents" it is time to slap some sense into the family member and tell them "NO".

The whole worshiping thing never crossed my mind.

Maybe older brother had a charismatic personality. That might explain little brother AND wife who apparently knew "nothing" and won't talk to the press. I still think others are involved, older brother did not come up with such a random and crazy idea on his own.

Somehow I think even if there WERE others the official story will be "No others...just a lone crazy....nothing to see here please move along".