Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #7 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[oaktree]

He has blood on his face. I believe it is alleged he put the gun in his mouth and pulled the trigger. In which case, why wouldn't his face be intact? The bullet went into the mouth and exited through the neck.

That's why I said "call my naive". It's just what I would "imagine" would happen if you put a gun in your mouth. Can you understand that someone like me might exist?

I don't have any experience with this, but when a man did this on my local TV, in front of cameras, it was said that the bystanders where shocked and traumatized by the damage done by the gun. So that was my prior knowledge that I brought to this event.

But I still stand by my assertion that based on reports that there was a lot of blood in the boat, witnessed by the boat owner when he first noticed the loose tarp, that it is difficult to imagine that he would have climbed out of the boat. When I saw the picture of him on the ground, I thought he didn't look bad at all.

 

[jjenny]

Up until this bombing, I very much doubt anyone would find a man buying a pressure cooker suspicious.
Most people had no idea bombs can be made out of pressure cookers.

 

[jjenny]

That's why I said "call my naive". It's just what I would "imagine" would happen if you put a gun in your mouth. I don't have any experience with this. Can you understand that someone like me might exist?

But I still stand by my assertion that based on reports that there was a lot of blood in the boat, witnessed by the boat owner when he first noticed the loose tarp, that it is difficult to imagine that he would have climbed out of the boat. When I saw the picture of him on the ground, I thought he didn't look bad at all.

Most people don't have exprience with this, I presume.

 

[Darkman00]

Anyone saw this one...

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The Tsarnaev brothers were double agents who decoyed US into terror trap

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[KMouse]

Are there photos of the apartment? I have seen written, "living in squalor". Thanks

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...qualid-ramshackle-apartment-article-1.1323047

 

[time]

Boston Marathon Bombing Suspects' Twisted Family History

http://abcnews.go.com/International...ects-twisted-family-history/story?id=19012097


He served his mandatory military term in the early 1980s in Novosibirsk, where he met his wife, Zubeidat Tsarnaeva. Her family was from Dagestan but she was in Novosibirsk to visit a relative.

The parents bought an apartment in Makhachkala, the Dagestani capital, with the hopes that their children would stay there whenever they visited.

"The mother, in a separate interview with ABC News, revealed that she and her husband divorced in the United States several years ago because the husband did not agree with her stricter embrace of Islamic traditions. The couple reconciled, she said, after they both moved to Dagestan and have been brought closer by their grief this week.

...Eventually, with his health failing and having lost a significant amount of weight, the father decided to come back to Dagestan in May 2012. Tamerlan, his oldest son, had just arrived there a couple months earlier. Anzor Tsarnaev decided to pursue medical treatment, figuring that if he died, he would at least be buried here. The mother also moved in Dagestan a few months later because she was feeling homesick."


I think the above is very much a romanticized or 'twisted' telling of their story since..

"Zubeidat Tsarnaev was arrested in June 2012"


That is probably why she moved, not because she was feeling homesick.


http://www.latimes.com/news/world/w...mostviewed+(L.A.+Times+-+Most+Viewed+Stories)

 

[atthelake]

The FBI does. They have all the photo's the public submitted and all the video from area businesses , including the Lord & Taylor security video.

The irony of it is very interesting. That the mother was arrested for shoplifting years earlier at Lord and Taylor!

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[ladonna]

Search pressure cooker bombs and you will be amazed. The Times Sq. bombing was attributed to a presser cooker bomb..

 

[time]

The irony of it is very interesting. That the mother was arrested for shoplifting years earlier at Lord and Taylor!

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Not years earlier, last Summer, I think.

 

[jjenny]

Search pressure cooker bombs and you will be amazed. The Times Sq. bombing was attributed to a presser cooker bomb..

Time square bomb (whatever it was) didn't work. Pressure cooker bombs were not on the mind of most people prior to this.

 

[QueenD]

I also read somewhere (please don't ask me for a link) that it was thought that he put the gun in his mouth. And that is the way many people do it. Thus the majority of the damage would have been inside the throat and to the back of the neck.

But by doing it that way he would manage to miss the major arteries and veins in his neck as well as the voice box etc. I do wonder if he caught the spinal cord.

This picture here, taken from dailyentertainment.com

shows back of neck area very red which to me would indicate injuries to the back of head. Also it looks like maybe he has been stiched up alone the side of neck. But I am no Dr. just what I would think.

 

[21merc7]

TT telling his mom the Feds called him and asked politely for him to come in for questioning, and he had a smart response, is pure b.s.

A smart response to any Federal Agent can and will get you arrested. If they called for questioning, that would've been the excuse to go get him for detaining a while, long enough to find the evidence they needed.

 

[Darkman00]

LOL ... according to some articles and videos out there, there are reports now that the aunt is saying that the "Naked man" was Suspect #1 ... seen cuffed, clearly alive and well ... and later shown dead ...

... and now the aunt is in fear for her life, reportedly ...

Anyone saw those?

I can provide links .. just not sure if they will be allowed or not.

 

[Miziree]

That's why I said "call my naive". It's just what I would "imagine" would happen if you put a gun in your mouth. Can you understand that someone like me might exist?

I don't have any experience with this, but when a man did this on my local TV, in front of cameras, it was said that the bystanders where shocked and traumatized by the damage done by the gun. So that was my prior knowledge that I brought to this event.

But I still stand by my assertion that based on reports that there was a lot of blood in the boat, witnessed by the boat owner when he first noticed the loose tarp, that it is difficult to imagine that he would have climbed out of the boat. When I saw the picture of him on the ground, I thought he didn't look bad at all.

My brother in law committed suicide by shooting himself in the head. There was no damage to his face. Ive been watching Cnn this morning and it has been reported the suspect fell 5 or 6 feet off the boat. Officers made him lift his shirt which he could barely do then they came to him. I believe his injury to his face came from hitting his face/head on the wheel well as he fell imho

 

[oaktree]

"The mother, in a separate interview with ABC News, revealed that she and her husband divorced in the United States several years ago because the husband did not agree with her stricter embrace of Islamic traditions.

Ahhhh! Confirmation of what I was beginning to suspect. After many articles I read over the weekend, I could be convinced that the mother was behind the events last week. I hope the CIA is visiting her.

 

[21merc7]

Time square bomb (whatever it was) didn't work. Pressure cooker bombs were not on the mind of most people prior to this.

As much crime as we are all used to here, I never thought of it. In fact, didn't know much about them until now and the dailymail kindly informed us of how they work, with diagrams and detailed explanation. :facepalm:

 

[noodled1]

bbm

Obviously they did not watch him closely. But I'm a bit baffled that nobody in the FBI recognized him - surely they would flip through their files of suspicious people in Boston first? Surely they had a photo on file?

And the best face recognition "software" is still the human brain. Whether the images from the marathon were grainy or not, if they had a photo of Tamerlan on file they surely would have recognized him. Should have. MOO

The FBI interviews/investigates thousand upon thousand of people every year. They look at the person check their digital foot print and close the book if the person looks OK.

I think there's too much being made of this FBI interview. Russia asked them to look but gave no specifics because as they admit he lived in the US so they had nothing other than his visit to base it on. FBI poked around, didn't find anything suspicious and moved on.

The FBI can only look so close at a person. Law prevents them from doing deep investigations if they have no probable cause to.

 

[jjenny]

As much crime as we are all used to here, I never thought of it. In fact, didn't know much about them until now and the dailymail kindly informed us of how they work, with diagrams and detailed explanation. :facepalm:

I never thought of it either.

 

[21merc7]

Ahhhh! Confirmation of what I was beginning to suspect. After many articles I read over the weekend, I could be convinced that the mother was behind the events last week. I hope the CIA is visiting her.

Have to admit I have thought about it. Either she knew or she inadvertently made TT feel the way he did. After all, he was failing at everything else, didn't make it big time as a boxer, school, and was a bum (imo) for a father and husband. He may have subconsciously chosen to please at least one person, the only one that would ever accept him (if she wasn't an overly critical type), his mother. He may have decided to prove himself to her.

 

[jjenny]

This article has interview with mother. She is the one who convinced the older son to become more religious. Apparently older son then decided that he couldn't box for religious reasons, so that upset the father who used to be a boxer himself.

"Tsarnaeva said she urged Tamerlan to embrace Islam in 2008, concerned about his drinking, smoking, and pursuit of girls. She said he began to read more about it on the internet. The mother said she also urged him to quit boxing because she told him Islam prohibits hitting someone in the face."

http://abcnews.go.com/International...son-obeyed-big/story?id=19014490#.UXYEF0pWK4o