Terrorist Attack at Boston Marathon #8 One Suspect Dead; One in Custody

[danzn16]

And he is among maybe two people who is not grabbing his head/covering his ears from the loud explosion. This has bothered me from the minute I first saw the picture of him stepping over the wounded guy in the grey hoodie. There was also a bald guy standing at the rail who doesn't react for four or five frames...lower right corner of the picture next to a woman who is still facing the runners and has her cellphone up and facing the road.

At the second seen there are two different men that also seem to be not reacting. There is balding tall man in the dress coat, behind DT and up against the brick wall...he is facing past the immediate carnage and down toward the first blast site.

Then in the really good picture if you zoom out and pan right there is a heavy-set white-haired man, standing in the intersection, who is facing the corner where DT and the man behind him. That man almost seems to be smiling.... That is as much as I will say on this for the time being.

Everyone reacts differently. If something happens to my sister she screams and runs. I get silent, have never screamed in my life and freeze for a few seconds and think about the best possible action. My fiance gets out the situation before I even interpret what's going on. Past experiences and personality reflect actions during emergencies. I can't judge anyone that was able to run away even if they jumped over an injured person. They could have thought another bomb was going to go off in same area and they needed to get out. He could have no idea what to do to help an injured person. It's flight, a natural instinct. Others cower and cover their ears, another instinct. I don't think they're guilty and neither is he for high tailing it out of a horrible and dangerous situation.

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[ami]

So does this guy really not care if we know everything? What an idiot. Have they read him Miranda rights yet? You would think he would know not to say anything or get a lawyer since he has been in this country most of his life. Sheesh. I mean I'm glad he's talking don't get me wrong!

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Ugh, does it sound to you guys like he's basically just spreading more "verbal" terrorism because he doesn't give a $%^ about his future, since he's already screwed? As long as he's going down, why not make it sound like he and his brother were planning on hijacking a plane next? Ugh.

 

[danzn16]

I wonder about this too! He is almost too free with socalled info.
He may think none of it can be used against him. Has he had legal advice?
The Magistrate advised him of his rights ... Is there a lawyer there working with him?

If they haven't given him his Miranda rights then nothing he's saying can be used against him. They probably have enough evidence that it didn't matter I guess

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[Capri]

Now it makes more sense why they stopped at that 7-11 store. Just seemed strange that they were stopping just for snacks. Now we know they were stopping to refuel so they could head to NYC to set off more bombs.

 

[danzn16]

He has been read Miranda rights at this time.

Thanks! Didn't know. Glad he's still talking!

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[georger]

Ugh, does it sound to you guys like he's basically just spreading more "verbal" terrorism because he doesn't give a $%^ about his future, since he's already screwed? As long as he's going down, why not make it sound like he and his brother were planning on hijacking a plane next? Ugh.

Except the story would explain 'why' they had so much ordinance with them
.. what I want to know is what guns did they have? Is it true they killed the
MIT officer to get his gun ... which if true means they don;t have but one
gun at that point? ............. something isn;t adding up ...

 

[21merc7]

Ugh, does it sound to you guys like he's basically just spreading more "verbal" terrorism because he doesn't give a $%^ about his future, since he's already screwed? As long as he's going down, why not make it sound like he and his brother were planning on hijacking a plane next? Ugh.

I think, jom, moo, they didn't plan to flee town - hence no cash on hand for that. Then actions just came on the spur when they knew they were identified.

I also think, jmo, moo, he knows what his situation is. He is proud of himself for what he did and proud to spout anything he chooses.

 

[21merc7]

Except the story would explain 'why' they had so much ordinance with them
.. what I want to know is what guns did they have? Is it true they killed the
MIT officer to get his gun ... which if true means they don;t have but one
gun at that point? ............. something isn;t adding up ...

I thought they killed MIT Officer Collier b/c they thought he was going to arrest them?

 

[ami]

Except the story would explain 'why' they had so much ordinance with them
.. what I want to know is what guns did they have? Is it true they killed the
MIT officer to get his gun ... which if true means they don;t have but one
gun at that point? ............. something isn;t adding up ...

Oh, I believe they were going to NYC - I just think the reason he's being so verbal in admitting it is because he's proud of it, or because he feels like it makes their 'terror cell' seem powerful, legitimate, that sort of thing.

I hope he barfs up motivation in the MIT officer shooting, as long as he's talking. That is really a mystery.

 

[Miziree]

The judge clearly stated his right to remain silent twice and if he didn't understand to stop them so he could understand. They also had a lawyer already there with him before he was read his rights and charges and during. This has been reported here already but I can find the link if you need it. Here it is. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/04/22/us/tsarnaev-court-appearance.html?_r=0

 

[deoneta]

Thanks! Didn't know. Glad he's still talking!

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No. he's clammed up now. This information came while FBI was interviewing him. A magistrate, US attorney and 2 Federal public defenders surprised FBI by showing up at the hospital with the complaint and read him his rights. He's stopped talking with the FBI only able to question him for 16 hours. Ridiculous. And no, it can't be used against him, but they got enough on him without his statements. The idea was to get further information. We can forget about that now.

 

[epiphany]

Speaking to reporters at City Hall today, Mayor Michael Bloomberg and Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said Tamerlan Tsarnaev, 26, and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, had a pressure cooker bomb and five pipe bombs they wanted to set off in Times Square.

The Federal Bureau of Investigation says Dzhokhar spontaneously planned the New York attack in the days following the marathon bombings.

On Wednesday, Commissioner Kelly said the brothers were planning to come to New York to party after the bombings. Today, he says the information received from federal investigators proved different as they interrogated Dzhokhar from his Boston hospital bed.

http://manhattan.ny1.com/content/to...yc-was-next-on-boston-bombing-suspects--radar

 

[georger]

I thought they killed MIT Officer Collier b/c they thought he was going to arrest them?

too many speculations ... the original story I heard is Collier was sent to MIT
because of a 'noise complaint' or something ordinary ...

 

[21merc7]

First hearing transcript, and she (Judge) does tell him his rights:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/137434934/First-Hearing

 

[georger]

No. he's clammed up now. This information came while FBI was interviewing him. A magistrate, US attorney and 2 Federal public defenders surprised FBI by showing up at the hospital with the complaint and read him his rights. He's stopped talking with the FBI only able to question him for 16 hours. Ridiculous. And no, it can't be used against him, but they got enough on him without his statements. The idea was to get further information. We can forget about that now.

God I hope you're wrong - fear you are correct! That is WHY I wanted
this guy declared an enemy combatant right off the bat ...

We just shoot ourselves in the foot every single time!

Now we have entered the Twilight Zone. Might as well throw a party!
(sorry for my angst)

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

The head guy of the Swat Squad that actually 'captured' Dzhokhar was asked in a televised media interview/press conference about if there was a gunshot wound on the neck, he said he saw no gunshot wound, he saw something that looked more like a cut, that he said was probably from or looked like it was from shrapnel.

He was there, he was up close and personal. Neither the Police Commissioner nor the the Watertown Police Chief were there in those few moments before he was whisked off in an ambulance.

The only one to report about a suicide attempt was John Miller who gets all his info from his old FBI cronies.

I agree it is somewhat of a mess, but I am beginning to contribute it more and more to the differing stories from the different law enforcement agencies. And, not so much to the media reporting, except for a few exceptions. I am talking about actual reporting, not the media speculations. At least in this case, law enforcement is talking, unlike Sandy Hook where it will be years, if ever, when the public is ever priivy to the details of the investigation.

He was there, close and personal, along with many, many others (close and personal). Even the arrest picture of him on the ground has several different LE types surrounding him. Those LE are responsible for reporting to the chief and commissioner the basics such as "there was no weapon found on him." And reporting that fast.

And my point is, for the head of the swat team to be saying 'to him it looked like shrapnel' after other LE higher ups (in earlier reports including press conferences) have pronounced it gunshot wound and even possible suicide attempt--that's wrong.

Whoever John Miller is, I know he wasn't the "only one" to report possible 'suicide attempt.' I quoted that coming from the White House Press Secretary, and I have almost a dozen other article screenshots with reporters also saying that.

 

[epiphany]

"They would drive to Time Square that same night," said Kelly. "In the car they made the decision to go to New York with the remaining explosive devices and detonate them in Times Square."

Kelly said that Dzhokhar was photographed in Times Square on April 18, 2012 with his friends and on one other occasion.

"The NYPD's Intel Unit is investigating Dzhokhar's movement in New York City along with who he was involved with," said Kelly.

http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/201...-on-times-square-bloomberg-says#ixzz2RVEOaHds

 

[georger]

He was there, close and personal, along with many, many others (close and personal). Even the arrest picture of him on the ground has several different LE types surrounding him. Those LE are responsible for reporting to the chief and commissioner the basics such as "there was no weapon found on him." And reporting that fast.

And my point is, for the head of the swat team to be saying 'to him it looked like shrapnel' after other LE higher ups (in earlier reports including press conferences) have pronounced it gunshot wound and even possible suicide attempt--that's wrong.

Whoever John Miller is, I know he wasn't the "only one" to report possible 'suicide attempt.' I quoted that coming from the White House Press Secretary, and I have almost a dozen other article screenshots with reporters also saying that.

I think everyone was speculating ... in the heat of battle. Yes - people
shouldn't do that. Agree.

What I dont want is this guy surrounded by lawyers who stop him from talking.
I think the Public Safety should take precedence.

:banghead:

 

[PoirotryInMotion]

too many speculations ... the original story I heard is Collier was sent to MIT
because of a 'noise complaint' or something ordinary ...

Yes, and he was supposedly just sitting in his car after that noise complaint.

That's when he was ambushed by the two suspects, supposedly b/c they wanted a second gun. Because, it has been established, they only had ONE gun.

They couldn't get the MIT cop's gun as it was locked into the holster.

 

[21merc7]

The judge clearly stated his right to remain silent twice and if he didn't understand to stop them so he could understand. They also had a lawyer already there with him before he was read his rights and charges and during. This has been reported here already but I can find the link if you need it. Here it is. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/04/22/us/tsarnaev-court-appearance.html?_r=0

You are correct. He was Mirandized right then and there in Court, and an attorney was present with him. So what is all this news today about?

Oh, maybe the new defense team just talked with him and told him to say no more. Perhaps that is what it is.