Terry Hobbs & Pam Hicks on Opperman Report

[OppermanReport]

Has Jessie ever stopped confessing? He has confessed so many times it's nearly impossible to keep track!

No he hasn't. There have been domestic violence with JM since he's been out. No arrests and also he ran into a victims family member and ran off in shame.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

No he hasn't. There have been domestic violence with JM since he's been out. No arrests and also he ran into a victims family member and ran off in shame.

At least he has enough decency to feel some guilt ..

 

[OppermanReport]

I actually did not know that. If anyone can point me in the general direction of a (eta: reliable) source for that information, I again would once more be grateful.

http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/b_lucas_interview.html

I gave up debating this case long ago. So please don't drag me into documenting every single fact. I really don't want to get into that.
You can listen to my interviews. Hopefully future guests won't be intimidated.

I have a lot of other shows with Pulitzer prize nominee Sheryl Mccolum, Court TV producer Steph Watts, Son of Sam Investigator Jim Rohstein, Skakel PI Vito Colucci. Weinergate

So the WM3 case and the obsessed killer fans are only a small portion of my reporting. I don't want to get dragged into locating every doc in that case.

 

[Ausgirl]

Gosh, not debating OR dragging.. I asked if 'anyone' could help. No need to be so hostile, really.

Thanks, Mrs G for the link.

 

[OppermanReport]

Could you also provide evidence to support your belief that all top members of support and awareness funds are fully aware of the guilt of the 3?
I have never heard that claim before.

Yes I could testify if called.

 

[OppermanReport]

Yes, I did know these things. I am actually right now weighing up the content and nature of Jessie's various confessions (the ones I have found documentation for) with studies on the phenomenon of false confession (there are some very interesting relatively recent ones), particularly where interrogation protocol is compromised and in cases of youths with low IQs. I do it see it as very possible that compulsive false confession might be a factor, as well as flat out guilt. Any information on both sides is welcome to me.

eta also: no need to be 'sorry' that it's proven that Misskelley confessed, I am not disputing that he did so, at all.

I ahve attended various trials in my time (none so famous as this, by a long shot). I still think the trials were flawed.

LOL you think his spontaneous confession in the back of the police car AFTER his conviction involved some kind of interrogation? Or the one where is lawyers made him swear on a bible?
Oh brother. No confession would satisfy you.

 

[primitivefuture]

I have worked for thousands of criminal defendants. In my opinion TH could not have pulled this off. No way.

I'm not asking you to debate the case, but I'm curious about your thoughts regarding the above statement. Are you saying that as a PI, you don't consider him the type of person who could do this, as in he doesn't fit the profile? Or are you saying you don't believe he could have logistically pulled it off, as in you don't believe he had the means or motive? I assure you I have no argumentative motives behind this question. Just curious about your opinion as a PI.



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[OppermanReport]

Gosh, not debating OR dragging.. I asked if 'anyone' could help. No need to be so hostile, really.

Thanks, Mrs G for the link.

Sorry you find the word please to be hostile.

 

[Ausgirl]

LOL you think his spontaneous confession in the back of the police car AFTER his conviction involved some kind of interrogation? Or the one where is lawyers made him swear on a bible?
Oh brother. No confession would satisfy you.

I find it ironic that you're here complaining about the behaviour of supporters, and proceed to personally attack people who've been nothing but polite to you.

Mrs G - a genuine question for you here - doesn't it bother you that Buddy Lucas, in that same police report, also claims Echols picked him up off the ground by looking at him?

I am inclined to believe the part about some kind of fight or struggle, and there's the whiskey bottle evidence to consider in light of that, so I am not pooh-poohing the entire report by a long shot.

But can anyone take everything he says seriously, in light of his claim to have been levitated? I struggle with it, I admit.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I find it ironic that you're here complaining about the behaviour of supporters, and proceed to personally attack people who've been nothing but polite to you.

Mrs G - a genuine question for you here - doesn't it bother you that Buddy Lucas, in that same police report, also claims Echols picked him up off the ground by looking at him?

I am inclined to believe the part about some kind of fight or struggle, and there's the whiskey bottle evidence to consider in light of that, so I am not pooh-poohing the entire report by a long shot.

But can anyone take everything he says seriously, in light of his clai to have been levitated? I struggle with it, I admit.

This is where it feels like the request for links is just a game. Of course I don't believe that DE lifted BL off the ground with his eyes, do I believe this is another example of Jessie confessing to someone about his guilt, yes.

 

[OppermanReport]

I'm not asking you to debate the case, but I'm curious about your thoughts regarding the above statement. Are you saying that as a PI, you don't consider him the type of person who could do this, as in he doesn't fit the profile? Or are you saying you don't believe he could have logistically pulled it off, as in you don't believe he had the means or motive? I assure you I have no argumentative motives behind this question. Just curious about your opinion as a PI.


I'm tempted to say all of the above.
First of all there is ample evidence testimony and confession, polygraphs etc to satisfy me that the convicted are the good for this. I'm in the business of punching holes in the prosecution case and I can see whats attempted here and I can smile but not fall for it.

I know Terry , he's not capable of pulling this off and getting away with it. He would confess if he were involved. Theres nothing pointing to him that would overwhelm all the evidence against the threes confessed convicted killers.
This hair is nonsense a huge portion of the population matches that hair. Plus even if it were 100% THs hair on that shoelace that could easily be his step sons shoelace. So what. My hairs are on my kids shoes and clothes , big deal.

 

[OppermanReport]

I find it ironic that you're here complaining about the behaviour of supporters, and proceed to personally attack people who've been nothing but polite to you.

Mrs G - a genuine question for you here - doesn't it bother you that Buddy Lucas, in that same police report, also claims Echols picked him up off the ground by looking at him?

I am inclined to believe the part about some kind of fight or struggle, and there's the whiskey bottle evidence to consider in light of that, so I am not pooh-poohing the entire report by a long shot.

But can anyone take everything he says seriously, in light of his claim to have been levitated? I struggle with it, I admit.

Since you think please is a personal attack I'll ignore you from now on. Please ignore me as well. Sorry for that additional attack.

 

[Ausgirl]

This is where it feels like the request for links is just a game. Of course I don't believe that DE lifted BL off the ground with his eyes, do I believe this is another example of Jessie confessing to someone about his guilt, yes.

No, not at all. I am sorry and disappointed that you think so.

I asked for the link, thinking maybe I'd missed something and there was another relative confession. I already had the Buddy link. I was not aware that people took that interview so seriously, in light of the levitating thing.

 

[Compassionate Reader]

Is Buddy Lucas the "relative" to whom you are claiming JM "confessed?" Exactly how are Lucas and Misskelley related?

To what "girlfriend" did JM "confess?" Would you be referring to "True Romance?"

 

[gheckso]

Since you think please is a personal attack I'll ignore you from now on. Please ignore me as well. Sorry for that additional attack.

If these last posts of yours is any indication of your behaviour on your show then I'm sure no future guests will feel intimidated. [/sarcasm]

 

[OppermanReport]

Have fun guys. I'm out.

 

[primitivefuture]

I'm tempted to say all of the above.
First of all there is ample evidence testimony and confession, polygraphs etc to satisfy me that the convicted are the good for this. I'm in the business of punching holes in the prosecution case and I can see whats attempted here and I can smile but not fall for it.

I asked you that question with the understanding that you believe the three are guilty. Are you saying that I "attempted" to trick you into something? I thought I made it clear I was only attempting to satisfy my own curiosity by asking you to clarify your statement about Terry Hobbs. I'm not a private investigator. I think it's interesting to hear opinions based on experience in any number of professions that I have never worked in.


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[primitivefuture]

But is was Shaun Wheeler that took ill so we had to reschedule the whole thing at the very last second.

Why did you have to cancel because Shaun Wheeler couldn't make the show? I listened to the show you did with Wheeler and Hobbs. Wheeler got a lot of airtime on that show. no issue with that, but I was disappointed that Wheeler fielded some questions that were posed to Hobbs, including questions about Hobbs' memory of events. Granted, the show was struggling with technical difficulties. It would be good to hear Hobbs' thoughts and responses to those questions, particularly questions that Hobbs is the most qualified to answer. Perhaps in a segment of the show where airtime is given primarily to Hobbs. There were several times in that show where I heard Hobbs saying, "Can I say something?" And "I'd like to say something about that..." Wheeler would talk over him and give lengthy answers. As a listener, it was frustrating. I imagine it may have been frustrating for Hobbs as well.




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[UdbCrzy2]

So much for the welcome. I thought some were rather rude to him.

This is the FIRST time we've ever had someone who was actually connected to this case come here.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I guess that was kind of the idea .. Scare him off before he could say too much.