The 90 minutes Terri spent driving around--Do you believe it?

Do you believe Terri drove around for 90 minutes strictly to calm a fussy baby?

  • No. That was a lie she told to cover up something else.

    Votes: 272 90.7%

  • Yes. I think she is telling the truth.

    Votes: 28 9.3%
  • Total voters
    300
  • Poll closed .

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  • #261
Donjeta said:
I did that and IMO since she is not willing to admit having met DS or any other friend (at least not that we know of any such admission), *if she did* maybe we should try to determine the possibility that on any random day of Kyron's school year she drove aimlessly and met with a friend so that neither of them would be willing to admit it to the police later or forgot all about it. (I don't know how to go about doing that.)

I can see only advantages for her if she met with a credible friend during her drive who could confirm her alibi so either she told the truth and didn't meet anybody or the meeting has some clandestine element and one or both of them were doing something they shouldn't have or the friend absolutely does not want to get involved with anything to do with the police, even to help find a child or help his/her friend. For example, if she knew someone with a SO background and they'd be afraid the SO gets in trouble if LE finds out they've been meeting with the baby there. (Just an example pulled out of my hat, not meant to start any rumors, I have no information whatsoever that she has a SO friend.)
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Soo.....just throwing this out there........what if Terri DID tell LE that she met up with Dede and Dede's story is that she never left the farm, though no one can seem to account for her being there. Are they both lying, or is one lying and the other telling the truth, and how can we discover the real story?

I'm not willing to say Terri is lying about this. I have no proof of what she told LE at all. Now with Dede's statements about being at the farm, though no one can place her there, I can start to doubt her veracity.
 
  • #262
debs said:
Soo.....just throwing this out there........what if Terri DID tell LE that she met up with Dede and Dede's story is that she never left the farm, though no one can seem to account for her being there. Are they both lying, or is one lying and the other telling the truth, and how can we discover the real story?

I'm not willing to say Terri is lying about this. I have no proof of what she told LE at all. Now with Dede's statements about being at the farm, though no one can place her there, I can start to doubt her veracity.
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Well if Terri said she met with Dede and Dede said she never left the farm they could both be telling the truth if they met at the farm. Terri was said to have driven on rural roads and wasn't the farm's address among the roads listed by the police?

"I never left the farm" does not include the statement "I never met with Terri."
 
  • #263
BeanE said:
Regarding the 90 minutes, I found this today on Dateline. Just posting it for reference since I had it handy. Not sure how helpful it is.

DESIREE YOUNG: She couldn't explain to them for about two hours worth of time where she was or what she was doing.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38420266/ns/dateline_nbc-crime_reports/
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If LE has surveillance video of Terry leaving the 2nd FM, that might give them the start time of Terry's unaccounted time, starting at 9:45, conformation of ck in time at the gym 11:39. That gives an extra 24 min. added to the 90 min. No wonder Des. is upset about not being able to account for her time. I think LE has the evidence, they, drat, just won't share it with us.
 
  • #264
Donjeta said:
Well if Terri said she met with Dede and Dede said she never left the farm they could both be telling the truth if they met at the farm. Terri was said to have driven on rural roads and wasn't the farm's address among the roads listed by the police?

"I never left the farm" does not include the statement "I never met with Terri."
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i have been thinking sort of this same thing, Donjeta.

and as you say "terri was said to have driven on rural roads..." which i am going to assume is a snippet of a conversation recounted by who knows who....but if it is a snippet....i am thinking it is possible that another snippet of that conversation could have included Terri saying that she met up with dd at the farmhouse.

Have a missed any sort of report were it says terri supposedly said she did not go to the farmhouse?
 
  • #265
I don't know... It might be just an inference made from the omission of the meeting from the timeline articles and the emails we have seen.

I don't think Terri and Dede would have been the best of buddies afterwards if one of them told the police that they met and one of them said they didn't so I wonder if it's safe to assume they had the same story to tell.
 
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  • #267
pufnstuf said:
I so agree, Bean. If it were me, and I were the focus of something so heinous, I think my number-one priority would be to fully cooperate in finding the missing child so that my name could be cleared, and so that I could have my daughter back--especially so that I could have my daughter back. If I had to completely accommodate LE and answer any question they asked, speak to the media, or stand from a mountaintop to scream it, I would--especially to get my daughter back.

Yet from Terri, nothing. Except emailing friends, buying batphones, having family and friends speak for her and such. Seems like she could remove herself from suspicion so easily by completely cooperating in the investigation. Instead, she tries to go around LE with phones and even asks her cellphone-lover-du-jour not to tell her lawyer that she visited him and showed him the RO. Deceptive, evasive, and anything but honest and forthcoming.

IMO
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We think she's guilty because she ACTS like she's guilty. JMO
 
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  • #269
Jules71 said:
I wish we could have a thread to discuss this video #2. Looks like we discussed #1, then #2 was posted and then the thread was closed. Seems like there is a lot worth discussing in this video.
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I agree! I think (if I may speak for the Mods) they would like you to choose a topic for discussion and then link the video to it. I did it wrong the first time by opening a thread with each video. It was too confusing because there were many topics within each interview to be discussed. So....if something caught your ear that you want to talk about...go for it and start a thread. I'll join in! ;)
 
  • #270
debs said:
BBM (and edited baby K's name):

She did not say she drove around for a few minutes to calm K down. She said she tried to get K to sleep in the truck for a few minutes, but no go so off to the gym.
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Same thing, Debs. Not reading the quote mysef, I'm going off of your post where you say that Terri stated that there were a few minutes for all this (tried getting K to sleep in the truck by driving around and then off to the gym), while there is huge amount of time she has not accounted for (90 minutes or more), BEFORE arriving with her sick child at the gym, and after her trips to two FM stores for meds.

A few minutes does NOT equal an hour and a half or more.

I believe that she stated in other venues that she was actually driving poor Baby K around for that long period to soothe her earache, which most of us parents know will only excerbate an earache (altitude changes, bouncing along, causing the baby more pain). What good, loving, compassionate mother would do this? She's near home, where she could settle her child down; bettter yet, how about taking her to the family doctor, an urgent care, or the ER, so her baby could be seen by a doctor, diagnosed and given treatment? It's clear that they have the means to take good medical care of the children. {Besides, those without means but with a strong love for their children, will take their sick or injured child(ren) to be seen somewhere, and make arrangements for payment later}.

WHO goes to the gym instead of taking good care of their child? Even her lame lies cause her to look lacking in the parenting and conscience department.

My thoughts on this.
 
  • #271
I think Terri cannot account for the whereabouts of the truck during this time because she was not driving the truck, some man was. From the interview part 2 with Kaine and Desiree, the interviewer mentions about a man spotted at the truck and Desiree does not correct her. Why would Kyron be outside of the school and near a truck with someone else in it (other than Terri)? My add-on which I feel is the intent of Desiree's phrasing. This is JMO of course.
 
  • #272
BeanE said:
It was so secretly that not even Dede or Terri know about it.

* polishes tinfoil hat *
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How can we, at this point, POSSIBLY believe anything either of these two women might say, about a possible meeting that day, or anything else?
 
  • #273
eyes4crime said:
Once again BeanE, thanks for all your hard work in trying to keep the story straight for all of us. :blowkiss: Seeing the different versions makes me think that the reporting is just outrageous. Seems this occurs with every detail. How about some clarification from LE...maybe a press conference that actually ruled some of this carp out. moo mho
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It is unfortunate to think about Terri's defense using the media reporting as an "out" for Terri. They will probably try, and it will fail, I'm sure. All media reports considered important will have been gone through, compared with other reports and with facts, and by the time a trial comes along, there will probably be excellent graphic and audio exihibits that will render that argument moot.

Thank goodness, it will come down to evidence, circumstantial and concrete, along with real people testifiying to what they saw and heard.

LE has already told us, numerous times, that they cannot and WILL NOT release most of the information they have collected, as they intend to maintain the integrity of their investigation and the case that they are building.

In the KATU interview today (part 2) with Desiree and Kaine, they speak to this, they are on board, they realize and appreciate that LE wants and needs to build an airtight case, so that when Terri is arrested she won't be let go for lack of a strongly build case against her.

My opinions.
 
  • #274
In this interview at about 2:25ish http://www.katu.com/home/video/101702718.html

Reporter: "Do you buy her story that she was driving baby K around because she had an earache that day?"

Kaine: "No." (shakes his head about 10 times back and forth)

Desiree: (uses her pointer finger and taps on the top of her opposing wrist as a gesture to a watch)
 
  • #275
SurfieTX said:
In this interview at about 2:25ish http://www.katu.com/home/video/101702718.html

Reporter: "Do you buy her story that she was driving baby K around because she had an earache that day?"

Kaine: "No." (shakes his head about 10 times back and forth)

Desiree: (uses her pointer finger and taps on the top of her opposing wrist as a gesture to a watch)
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IIRC, Kaine did indicate at some point that the baby had been teething.

Here's a pointer to where Kaine said this:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5511052&postcount=194"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Where Terri parked at the school[/ame]
 
  • #276
Does anyone think maybe she did the deed, then drove baby K around long enough to get her past the immediate trauma of what she'd seen, then brought her to the gym? There's been some speculation that, given the current timeline, she wouldn't have had enough time to do away with Kyron. Having driven those roads a few weeks ago, I can believe without a doubt that he could have been thrown down a ravine (causing fatal injuries) in a matter of seconds. It would have required her to pull over for maybe 30 seconds, but she could have listened for traffic and chosen a witness-free moment to do it. JMO
 
  • #277
Further, it would explain Kaine's statements on a few occasions that baby K is a "new kid" since Terri has gone - she is getting better after the trauma of that morning. JMO
 
  • #278
PDXMom said:
Does anyone think maybe she did the deed, then drove baby K around long enough to get her past the immediate trauma of what she'd seen, then brought her to the gym? There's been some speculation that, given the current timeline, she wouldn't have had enough time to do away with Kyron. Having driven those roads a few weeks ago, I can believe without a doubt that he could have been thrown down a ravine (causing fatal injuries) in a matter of seconds. It would have required her to pull over for maybe 30 seconds, but she could have listened for traffic and chosen a witness-free moment to do it. JMO
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I've entertained that thought....Who would LE agencies call upon to conduct a search of the ravines in the area.. I don't know too much of anything about Oregon, having never been there, and being from the south, but I do live in a mountainous area..JMHO
 
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