The aftermath of Hurricane Katrina

[JBean]

Can Mayors and Governors be "fired", or would there be an impeachment hearing like with Presidents?? TIA.

Ask Grey Davis. He was successfully recalled in CA.

 

[KrazyKollector]

I do understand the issue of concern for relatives, but I think the pictures should be taken. I am reminded of Matthew Brady's photos of the Civil War or the photographs of the Holocaust. I guess I feel like we need to have some small understand of the horror and suffering of our fellow men and women.


Seabiscuit

A bit of a difference between the Holocaust and a natural disaster. The Holocaust was because of people. The Civil War is documented by pictures because there is very little else except writings to show that history.
Both happened before the advent of live TV. We had front seats to the tsunami and to Katrina. The DVDs will be the history.

I didn't need to see the 3000 bodies of 9/11 to know they died. But, going by some posters here (not just you Sea), it must not have happened because all we see is dust. We don't appreciate what happened because we didn't get a jump by jump play by play?
I don't need to see the thousands killed by this storm anynore than I need to see the bodies of the tsunami victims.
When the names scroll by or are read off a long, long list, I will see and see in my dreams the faces of the dead.

It must be me. I am just shaking my head at how a few seem to be drooling in anticipation of wanting to see the gore. :truce:
Must have been the Winnebago fire that burned to the axles, trapping the wheelchair bound woman and the dog who stayed with her. Bringing her out of there cured me of ever "needing" to see the gore. :silenced:

 

[Tom'sGirl]

Ask Grey Davis. He was successfully recalled in CA.

You beat me to it JB :laugh:

 

[Details]

I am sickened and disgusted and VERY angry, but for a much different reason than you seem to be.

I could go on and try and show the utter banality of this "desire" to see rotted human flesh, but for the ones who see it, they don't need it and the ones who don't see it, never will.

You seem to be seeing negative motives, and rather disgusting ones, where none exist. Sorry, but words do not convey what pictures do. Some people won't believe it without a picture, some people won't read, but will see the picture, and words alone, however well written still can't convey the tragedy that happened here.

Remember that travelling exhibition of lynching photos? People who thought they knew all they needed to about race relations and such came out of viewing those shaken and changed. A picture has a meaning that just reading does not.

 

[Mabel]

A bit of a difference between the Holocaust and a natural disaster. The Holocaust was because of people. The Civil War is documented by pictures because there is very little else except writings to show that history.
Both happened before the advent of live TV. We had front seats to the tsunami and to Katrina. The DVDs will be the history.

I didn't need to see the 3000 bodies of 9/11 to know they died. But, going by some posters here (not just you Sea), it must not have happened because all we see is dust. We don't appreciate what happened because we didn't get a jump by jump play by play?
I don't need to see the thousands killed by this storm anynore than I need to see the bodies of the tsunami victims.
When the names scroll by or are read off a long, long list, I will see and see in my dreams the faces of the dead.

It must be me. I am just shaking my head at how a few seem to be drooling in anticipation of wanting to see the gore. :truce:
Must have been the Winnebago fire that burned to the axles, trapping the wheelchair bound woman and the dog who stayed with her. Bringing her out of there cured me of ever "needing" to see the gore. :silenced:

After 9/11 there were many montages made using pictures of the victims while they were alive. The smiling faces, the happy families, the proud graduates, etc....that was enough to show the magnitude of the loss.

 

[KrazyKollector]

[...]
But in a Wednesday interview with FOX News, Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco (search) said she had not signed off on the decision.
"The mayor certainly has ordered that but the governor, and that would be me, would have to enforce it or implement it. We are trying to determine whether there is an absolute justification for that," she told FOX News.

"I think the most important thing driving that decision would be the possibility of disease. If indeed the disease problem is evident, is inevitable, we'll have to move to the next stage," she said.

And developments suggest that "next stage" may come soon. Floodwaters in New Orleans contain bacteria associated with sewage that are at least 10 times higher than acceptable safety levels, making direct contact by rescue workers and remaining residents dangerous, the first government tests confirmed Wednesday. [...]

How did this woman ever get elected?

I don't know but I hope someone sends her a quarter so she can buy a clue!
She's a :loser: :bang: :razz:

 

[JBean]

I don't know but I hope someone sends her a quarter so she can buy a clue!
She's a :loser: :bang: :razz:

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[KrazyKollector]

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Thank you for donating the money to her cause JB! You know, as corrupt as I have read LA politicos can be, you may never get your change from that?
Don't worry though. It will go to a good cause. I think the Gov needs some cents (sense). Maybe even scents. But I have no clue which kind she wears.
Is there one called Clueless?

 

[KrazyKollector]

After 9/11 there were many montages made using pictures of the victims while they were alive. The smiling faces, the happy families, the proud graduates, etc....that was enough to show the magnitude of the loss.

Now that sounds much better to me.

 

[Nova]

There is a middle ground between hiding the dead (and therefore death itself along with its causes) and showing close-ups of every corpse.

 

[Bobbisangel]

I am sickened and offended -- by the horrific natural disaster named KATRINA. I still wouldn't want my family to be shown like some of those poor souls on ogrish.com. I can assure you that I wouldn't want to be on there with people gawking at me either.

It is easy for people to say that they would want their dead loved one shown on TV but they really wouldn't...if it was their loved one. Those people are going to be in horrible condition when they are finally recovered. It doesn't matter how your loved one died....it is horrible to see your loved one being displayed on TV with no dignity or anything else.

When my daughter was murdered I saw pictures in the newspaper of her car and I could see one of her feet on the ground as she had her car door open and had had both feet on the ground. When she was shot she fell over and pulled one of her legs up but the other foot was still flat on the ground. It was hard enough to see that. Then a few nights later we were watching the news on a station that we didn't usually watch. They showed a video of my daughter in a body bag and I could see the bottom of her shoe pushing against the end of the bag. I can't begin to explain what that did to me to see her in that body bag. It traumatized me all over again. I will never forget it...ever...and the shock I felt. That was my baby girl in that bag for God's sake. No, you folks might think you would want your dead bloated loved ones shown on tv but believe me....you really wouldn't. I wouldn't want to see them either. I don't think that we have to see that horror for this to be a reality. I'm sure that the media would disagree with me. They could care less how that would affect the families of the dead....as long as their ratings stay up.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Can they blur the faces - I think it's still necessary to see the pictures, to know what happened - but I'd agree that it'd be rotten for the victims families to have that image as their last one of that person. A bit of fog will let the truth be known with minimal hurt. I think it's very important for people to see what happened, to maintain the outrage about what was not done, how so many died, not because of nature, but because of delay and a lack of manpower.

I think it would be alright if they filmed the dead being brought out on stretchers...covered with sheets.....or on the ground covered with sheets.
I don't know their plan of recovery....but as long as they are covered it would still be reality when you see body after body. I don't think that the person should be shown though.

Remember when all of those coffins covered with flags arrived and the news was filming them? I didn't see anything wrong with that because it did make the war a reality.....all of those men and women gone...but we didn't see their bodies. On the other hand, I didn't have a child in one of those coffins.

 

[poco]

Will New Orleans and even some of the other coastal cities affected by this disaster ever be the same?

I am just sitting here wondering how many people won't return to NO. It will be months before things even return to a semblance of normal. Many of the people who have been displaced will begin new lives - get new jobs, new friends, possibly find new places to live - will they return? I believe I would count my blessings and start a new live elsewhere. What would you do?

 

[Bobbisangel]

That was a large part of what my daughter and her friends had on the Uhaul yesterday leaving for Baton Rouge. Smaller, cushy toys, all new and easy for kids to hold and carry with them .

I think I will box them up and send them to different places. Cuddly teddy bears are a comfort to children. There are a lot of kids that something to play with and to take their minds off what is happening in their lives.

 

[less0305]

Can Mayors and Governors be "fired", or would there be an impeachment hearing like with Presidents?? TIA.

It would require a recall election. I think there has to be so many voters petition for a recall election and then someone else to be put up against that particular officer (mayor or Governor) and that other person would have to win by votes.

 

[less0305]

Oh, BobbisAngel...... Hugs, hugs, hugs!!!!!! That's a horrible situation to face and so heartbreaking. I can't even imagine how heartbreaking your ordeal must have been. Thank you for sharing your pain because it helps to put things in perspective, but I know it must have been hard to even put that memory to type even. Bless you, hon.

 

[Ntegrity]

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I think the Gov needs some cents (sense). Maybe even scents. But I have no clue which kind she wears.
Is there one called Clueless?

 

[Ntegrity]

Yes, thank you Bobbisangel. I can only try to imagine how painful that would be. My thought, when posting my objections to photos earlier, was of seeing my precious baby granddaughters' pictures splattered across the television or the internet. I simply couldn't bear it.

 

[Gabby]

That was my baby girl in that bag for God's sake.

My heart breaks for you Bobbisangel... God Bless You...

 

[Gabby]

Poco, Good Question!!!

I would live no other place than Texas. It is home to me... and if my home were destroyed tomorrow, I would come back and rebuild... my roots are here in this area, and I would not ever feel "home" anywhere else... Home is definately where the "heart" is and my Heart is here in Central Texas...