The Alarm/Security System

[FightTheOstrich]

Not to defend him but couldn't he tell from his phone if the alarm was activated or not?


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I was wondering the same thing.

I assume MS was able to determine that the house alarm was not on and had not been activated the night before after his wife arrived home. He had tracked her phone and determined it was at the house. The last contact he had with her was the night before after she landed at the airport but before she returned to the house. And he could not reach her on her phone.

Why didn't he call LE to meet his doctor friend at the house? And did MS reveal to the doctor friend the above details before he gave him the passcode to enter the home?

 

[flgrl017]

Not to defend him but couldn't he tell from his phone if the alarm was activated or not?


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It would probably depend on if he paid for that service or got it in some deal when he bought the system.

 

[1&2&3]

Could MS have told TS not to set the alarm upon arrival home as his mom had called to report problems with it? I don't recall if she set it when she got home.

 

[atthelake]

Could MS have told TS not to set the alarm upon arrival home as his mom had called to report problems with it? I don't recall if she set it when she got home.

Her bags had not even gotten into the house ..she didn't have time to set the alarm. She was just walking in when she was ambushed :moo:

 

[1&2&3]

MS continues to show us his true character as he tries to throw suspicion on his own Mother! Grrr...and he is closed up in the house with his two young daughters who are at a very impressionable age. He is feeding them a world of lies - that is the way he thinks and lives!

Once said by a parent, it is very difficult to remove the comment from a child's brain. JMO.

 

[atthelake]

I was wondering the same thing.

I assume MS was able to determine that the house alarm was not on and had not been activated the night before after his wife arrived home. He had tracked her phone and determined it was at the house. The last contact he had with her was the night before after she landed at the airport but before she returned to the house. And he could not reach her on her phone.

Why didn't he call LE to meet his doctor friend at the house? And did MS reveal to the doctor friend the above details before he gave him the passcode to enter the home?

Based on the information I have read I have not been able to determine that he would have been able to know if the alarm was on or off. Does anybody have a link or previous information to assume that he would have known . I have yet to see it in any documents?


I have just now finished reading the entire document dump from 3 weeks ago in one massive reading. Nowhere in the document does it state that he told his doctor friend the above information about the above details.

:moo:

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Based on the information I have read I have not been able to determine that he would have been able to know if the alarm was on or off. Does anybody have a link or previous information to assume that he would have known . I have yet to see it in any documents?


I have just now finished reading the entire document dump from 3 weeks ago in one massive reading. Nowhere in the document does it state that he told his doctor friend the above information about the above details.

:moo:

I'm just assuming that MS knew the alarm was off. Based on the technology available and the fact that MS likes to play the big shot and be in control.

Sorry I was being facetious about MS filling his doctor friend in. It's just another nail in his coffin. He knew the killers were gone and this was all a charade.

 

[MsArk]

It would probably depend on if he paid for that service or got it in some deal when he bought the system.

JMO but why else did BS have such issues with 1- thinking she set the alarm but apparently didn't and 2- have such issues setting the alarm? Seems to me someone was deactivating and/or in some other way compromising the alarm system remotely. It isn't rocket science to be able to enter a 4 digit code on a key pad then hit the "away" key. I taught my 10 year old sons to do it back in the day way before cell phones were the norm and certainly before alarm systems had the capability to use remote apps. I think under normal circumstances BS would have been able to enter her code with no problem.
By the time technology caught up with alarm systems I was living alone, on a much reduced income, and opted out of this service but it was widely available in 2012, at least.
MOO- we may be surprised that the Seivers did not have remote access and capacity to manipulate the system but I for one will be surprised.

 

[MsArk]

Based on the information I have read I have not been able to determine that he would have been able to know if the alarm was on or off. Does anybody have a link or previous information to assume that he would have known . I have yet to see it in any documents?


I have just now finished reading the entire document dump from 3 weeks ago in one massive reading. Nowhere in the document does it state that he told his doctor friend the above information about the above details.

:moo:

I agree- the details about who had access to the alarm system and what MS and others had the capability of seeing and doing with the alarm system was not addressed in the first Doc Dump. I am anxiously awaiting the send Doc Dump to see if those particulars are addressed there.

 

[MsArk]

Based on the Statewide quote above, I'm going to guess that phone access/internet access, etc. would be an add-on feature to whatever the Sievers' chose for security. Obviously, they didn't chose the cameras outside, so maybe they were just getting a basic system at the time. I'm sure it could be added on later for a price, and that would be an interesting detail if/when it occurred. It would also be interesting to know if the safes were alarmed as it looks like they can do that too.

Personally speaking, the last time I installed an alarm system in my home was in 2012 and it was an add on. IIRC, it was an extra $50-$75 quarterly (may have been monthly- I simply don't recall) but didn't add it on at that time. My income had been greatly reduced (thanks Ex) and I didn't seem the need in all of the bells and whistles. The key pad worked for me. I was the only one living in the one at the time, in an extremely safe neighborhood, knew all of my neighbors personally etc.
I don't see it a stretch for MS to "add" on this capability, especially since it took what seemed to be little effort on the alarm company and was "relatively" inexpensive .

 

[SurfieTX]

I'm just assuming that MS knew the alarm was off. Based on the technology available and the fact that MS likes to play the big shot and be in control.

Sorry I was being facetious about MS filling his doctor friend in. It's just another nail in his coffin. He knew the killers were gone and this was all a charade.

I think he knew too. He only gave Dr. P the garage code to make entry into the home and didn't give him the alarm code (his mom had both in order to feed the pets). Which begs another question - why did he even do that? Don't normal people just go to the front door and ring the bell/knock first and then maybe peep in a few front windows? It's almost like MS knew she would be found right there in the kitchen and led Dr. P in that direction.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

I think he knew too. He only gave Dr. P the garage code to make entry into the home and didn't give him the alarm code (his mom had both in order to feed the pets). Which begs another question - why did he even do that? Don't normal people just go to the front door and ring the bell/knock first and then maybe peep in a few front windows? It's almost like MS knew she would be found right there in the kitchen and led Dr. P in that direction.

Exactly, why not have the friend swing by the house, knock on the door, maybe see if her cars is in the garage and then call 911?

 

[flgrl017]

Exactly, why not have the friend swing by the house, knock on the door, maybe see if her cars is in the garage and then call 911?

Plus he had tracked her phone there

 

[Helper9693]

Under normal circumstances you would have a friend run by the house to see if she is ok. That would include knocking on the front door...maybe walking around the house...knock on the back door/window. THEN the person calls MS on his cell and says "hey no one is answering what do you want me to do?" (Did that happen?) THEN you would give him the code and send him in the house...any sort of "oh my god I'm worried about my wife...here is the code...can you go in and check on her"...would be suspect in my opinion. JMO

 

[flgrl017]

Under normal circumstances you would have a friend run buy the house to see if she is ok. That would include knocking on the front door...maybe walking around the house...knock on the back door/window. THEN the person calls MS on his cell and says "hey no one is answering what do you want me to do?" (Did that happen?) THEN you would give him the code and send him in the house...any sort of "oh my god I'm worried about my wife...here is the code...can you go in and check on her"...would be suspect in my opinion. JMO

This!

 

[Eileen730]

Under normal circumstances you would have a friend run by the house to see if she is ok. That would include knocking on the front door...maybe walking around the house...knock on the back door/window. THEN the person calls MS on his cell and says "hey no one is answering what do you want me to do?" (Did that happen?) THEN you would give him the code and send him in the house...any sort of "oh my god I'm worried about my wife...here is the code...can you go in and check on her"...would be suspect in my opinion. JMO

The Dr. Friend said he knocked on the door got no response and used the code MS gave him to enter the garage. We do not know when he gave him the code.

 

[dmac55]

The Dr. Friend said he knocked on the door got no response and used the code MS gave him to enter the garage. We do not know when he gave him the code.

i don't see in Dr.P's statement that he called MS between knocking on the door, and entering the garage
i also don't see anything redacted in Dr.P's statement
it reads to me like Dr.P knocked on the Sievers' door, received no reponse, and then used the key pad to the garage that MS had given him (in MS's intital call to Dr.P requesting he do a "well being check)
jmo

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pages2-3
June29
Statement of Mark Petrites:

Upon arrival, Petrites knocked on the door receiving no response. With this, Petrites utilized the key pad to the garage door provided by M. Sievers to make entry.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

i don't see in Dr.P's statement that he called MS between knocking on the door, and entering the garage
i also don't see anything redacted in Dr.P's statement
it reads to me like Dr.P knocked on the Sievers' door, received no reponse, and then used the key pad to the garage that MS had given him (in MS's intital call to Dr.P requesting he do a "well being check)
jmo

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pages2-3
June29
Statement of Mark Petrites:

Upon arrival, Petrites knocked on the door receiving no response. With this, Petrites utilized the key pad to the garage door provided by M. Sievers to make entry.

Definitely a little off. IMO, in his rush to have TS discovered, MS skipped a few steps.

 

[beach]

The Dr. Friend said he knocked on the door got no response and used the code MS gave him to enter the garage. We do not know when he gave him the code.

Well, from what I recall he did NOT say that he knocked on the door and when he got no answer he called Mark back and THEN Mark gave him the code.

Eileen, please start referencing the Bates page #. Now I have to go search myself for it because I want to re-read exactly what Dr. P stated.

 

[beach]

i don't see in Dr.P's statement that he called MS between knocking on the door, and entering the garage
i also don't see anything redacted in Dr.P's statement
it reads to me like Dr.P knocked on the Sievers' door, received no reponse, and then used the key pad to the garage that MS had given him (in MS's intital call to Dr.P requesting he do a "well being check)
jmo

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pages2-3
June29
Statement of Mark Petrites:

Upon arrival, Petrites knocked on the door receiving no response. With this, Petrites utilized the key pad to the garage door provided by M. Sievers to make entry.

Thank you, dmac!