The Anthony Family: Who Might be the First to Tell the Truth?

[llc3guys]

I know I'm fully in the minority here, and that's OK, but I think Casey will be the one to cave. I suppose when we're talking about "cracking" what we're really talking about is "breaking." They all are cracking, for various reasons, in various ways, and will most likely for years to come. Cracking is where the rampant emotions are seen in a limited and uncontrolled state but are forcefully throttled back and the exposing cracks and chasms filled in with any multitude of defense mechanisms, sealed once again against analysis and public disection. A "breaking" is where the wall, the shell, the facade, are not just shattered beyond repair, but beyond any care of repair. The internal pressures required to do this are, fortunately, beyond most people's understanding as it goes far beyond the emotional. The inner workings of the mind of a narcissistic sociopath is obviously not what anyone would call "normal," - neither is what breaks them. Casey is safe within herself as long as SHE sees herself, and her secrets, as hidden and controlled. She's done this, because she's been allowed to, all her life. Casey is not a super-human, more intelligent, or an emotional fortress without a conscience, - she's simply doing as she's always done, envisioned a reality and image of, and for, herself and ignored everything and everyone else that went against it. If she becomes aware that all of her dark and hidden corners are being being fully lit up and exposed to everyone, where she knows that everyone "sees" her, I expect her to shatter like cheap glass on a hard floor. I suspect, for this reason, for the prosecution to rip her apart from day one of the trial, but little to nothing before. I don't think Casey's ego, erected self-image, or soul, will hold out till the end.

 

[logicalgirl]

Great comment llc3boys - a much better description - SHATTER - because I can really picture that happening.

I've actually managed to picture what would happen if ICA actually flips out in court and has to be physically restrained. We've seen what happens when she gets really angry - I'm sure TWA can pull up the clip of ICA with clenched fists talking to her parents.

ICA is going to be forced to listen to testimony and evidence, including her family members that will be as close to the truth as we will probably ever be able to get to. I'm sure ICA will be heavily medicated, but will she actually be able to sit through an entire trial?

And my vote is still with George - to my eye he truly is the weak link. JA and LDB will be able to dance around him with words, he'll get confused, frustrated, angry, and then I think he'll just fall apart.

I don't know - this trial is really going to be quite the study in human emotions.

 

[gngr~snap]

I have heard SO little about LEE~ wasn't he given imunity? Was it just for him testifing the one time or did he get FULL immunity?
Being that Lee has disappeared...Distanced himself from the case... I'm gonna go with him. CA and GA will be put in jail for their complicity IMO. Lee is the only one with any chance of a future. MOO

 

[The World According]

Grandma Shirley and Uncle Rick, hands down will tell the truth, after that Lee, George, I do not see Cindy coming around, ever. George and Lee they can get to if they softball them with questions that get them thinking of Caylee, using photos of a very live and happy Caylee it would fall on their hearts to tell the truth for her. Cindy imo is past the point of no return.

 

[Chiquita71]

Grandma Shirley and Uncle Rick, hands down will tell the truth, after that Lee, George, I do not see Cindy coming around, ever. George and Lee they can get to if they softball them with questions that get them thinking of Caylee, using photos of a very live and happy Caylee it would fall on their hearts to tell the truth for her. Cindy imo is past the point of no return.

Quote Respect TWA

I agree regarding Cindy. George, who knows? He seems to tell the truth(more of the truth)when he is around what he deems is authority. As I said in my post, maybe Lee will be the one, esp. since he has immunity.

Speaking of G-ma Shirley and Uncle Rick, ITA. The truth will come from them as it has come from them.

Richard Plesea
Interview with LE
RP: (skip) And so I said, Cindy I said, come on. And I said, you're kidding me. Now, tell me is, is Casey pregnant? And and Cindy says, "Casey told us that she'd have to have sex in order to have a baby and that she did not have sex with anyone."
(skip)
RP:They believe everything that Casey says.
(skip)
RP: ...my step-son here from my wife, he was in our wedding and, and he looked at her and he goes, "Do you know who the daddy is?" And she just looked at him and smiled. So she, she knew who, that she was pregnant.
(skip)
RP: Okay. Jesse had the paternity test done at the hospital.
LE: Yes
RP: And it wasn't his and he was still going to marry her anyway. This is what I heard and, and uhm, she, she was the one that, that called off the wedding, didn't want to be married.
LE: Heard it from whom?
RP: Um, Cindy and my mom.
LE: They both said it to you?
RP: Yeah

LE: What did, what did Cindy and George say after the baby was born? Obviously they took her to a hospital. I mean did they, did anybody call you back and say, yeah you were right?
RP: No. They, they, they won't do that.

...js...

 

[kaRN]

I voted no one will come forward will the truth on the stand. Remember the words LA spoke at Caylee's memorial "we are united", and united they will stand even if it means lying on the stand under oath. Caylee will be looking down on them with tears in her eyes as she sits on God's lap.

I think we'll be doing that for her Cat. Caylee is finally free of them and soaring in a place they will never ever be. At least I hope so. :angel:

 

[Brassband]

If GA hits the lotto, he'll tell...IOW, if he had a way to hide from CA and the public via an undisclosed tropical destination, I think he'd bite.
He resigned his marriage to doom many times in the short time we have known GA, and actions of the past. Since he will not confront CA, he told LE a hand over her mouth doesn't even help, then he might think of telling what he knows, pack his bags and head for the hills-but he needs money to do that, it's always money with these people-GA can't get away from her if he does the dirty deed and testifies as to the smell of death, etc...cause he's broke.

These people know how to sucker money from others. All George would have to do is write a "tell-all" book, hit the morning and prime-time news shows, make a call to Oprah, Geraldo, JVM, and NG, and he'd have plenty of money. Nah, I don't think this family will ever admit that their daughter is a murderer. jmo.

 

[Leila]

I know I'm fully in the minority here, and that's OK, but I think Casey will be the one to cave. I suppose when we're talking about "cracking" what we're really talking about is "breaking." They all are cracking, for various reasons, in various ways, and will most likely for years to come. Cracking is where the rampant emotions are seen in a limited and uncontrolled state but are forcefully throttled back and the exposing cracks and chasms filled in with any multitude of defense mechanisms, sealed once again against analysis and public disection. A "breaking" is where the wall, the shell, the facade, are not just shattered beyond repair, but beyond any care of repair. The internal pressures required to do this are, fortunately, beyond most people's understanding as it goes far beyond the emotional. The inner workings of the mind of a narcissistic sociopath is obviously not what anyone would call "normal," - neither is what breaks them. Casey is safe within herself as long as SHE sees herself, and her secrets, as hidden and controlled. She's done this, because she's been allowed to, all her life. Casey is not a super-human, more intelligent, or an emotional fortress without a conscience, - she's simply doing as she's always done, envisioned a reality and image of, and for, herself and ignored everything and everyone else that went against it. If she becomes aware that all of her dark and hidden corners are being being fully lit up and exposed to everyone, where she knows that everyone "sees" her, I expect her to shatter like cheap glass on a hard floor. I suspect, for this reason, for the prosecution to rip her apart from day one of the trial, but little to nothing before. I don't think Casey's ego, erected self-image, or soul, will hold out till the end.

You have a good point! When Prosecution Attorney Ashton was describing what may have been Caylee's last moments, Casey turned to JB and we heard her say, "Make him stop." She couldn't stand that reality.

I wondered then how she was going to withstand all the witnesses who would be taking the stand and testifying about things that happened, many things that will show Casey in a bad light. She's going to be bombarded with reality, not her narcissistic images of the perfect Casey, and she's going to become angry.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

You have a good point! When Prosecution Attorney Ashton was describing what may have been Caylee's last moments, Casey turned to JB and we heard her say, "Make him stop." She couldn't stand that reality.

I wondered then how she was going to withstand all the witnesses who would be taking the stand and testifying about things that happened, many things that will show Casey in a bad light. She's going to be bombarded with reality, not her narcissistic images of the perfect Casey, and she's going to become angry.

I think when TL is on the stand it will be very troublesome to her. Her friends out there living the awesome bella vita while she's been in lockup for 3 years.

 

[marspiter]

I believe GA already has. We so far are not privy to his GJ testimony. Also his interview talking about the smell of the trunk. He was very adamant about what he thought that smell was.

The thing with GA is I believe he is telling officers one thing, Cindy another, and just goes along with Cindy on the media appearances. Lets keep in mind that GA was the only one of them asked to testify at the GJ hearing. So based on that I believe GA has already given the truth or as much of it as he knows to investigators and the GJ. The real question is what details does he know. I would say not much in terms of details. I can't see KC giving her family any real info.

I'm not defending GA as I believe he should be fully supporting Caylee and her memory in this mess. However I can't help but wonder what GA said behind the closed doors of the GJ.

 

[KeyboardCat]

In my opinion that entire family has sat down and come to an agreement of what to admit to and what to deny.
Things to deny:
a loud fight (possible choking) between Cindy and Casey near to the time she "moved out"
of the house for the first time in her life.
what they really believed that horrid smell to be in the car
that Cindy wanted to take custody of Caylee, due to Casey being an unfit mother
any thefts they do not have to admit to
that Casey probably confessed what happened to Caylee to them sometime in October

They will deny anything that indirectly or directly points to Casey's guilt.
And they will maintain these lies long past the end of her trial.

I'm sure any issues they think would be not linked to her guilt they will freely admit.

Apparently they love her very very much. It amazes me at the lengths they have gone to attempt to sway the public that Casey is not guilty. It amazes me the lengths they have gone to in smearing innocent peoples' names in order to point away from their daughter.

I know one thing, if I were in Casey's shoes. I would be up poop creek without a paddle.
My family would never do this, lol.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

GA will crack 87 29.69%
CA will crack 0 0%
LA will crack 56 19.11%
KC will crack 4 1.37%
NO ONE will crack -they will stick it out till the bitter end! 171 58.36%


Not one person believes CA will crack...spot on, IMO...

I believe GA already has. We so far are not privy to his GJ testimony. Also his interview talking about the smell of the trunk. He was very adamant about what he thought that smell was.

The thing with GA is I believe he is telling officers one thing, Cindy another, and just goes along with Cindy on the media appearances. Lets keep in mind that GA was the only one of them asked to testify at the GJ hearing. So based on that I believe GA has already given the truth or as much of it as he knows to investigators and the GJ. The real question is what details does he know. I would say not much in terms of details. I can't see KC giving her family any real info.

I'm not defending GA as I believe he should be fully supporting Caylee and her memory in this mess. However I can't help but wonder what GA said behind the closed doors of the GJ.

My problem with GA is how much he's changed, after his GJTestimony. Had he just stayed the course, folk would continue to feel for him, have sympathy for him and what he's facing. Had he continued to be a voice for Caylee people would think highly of him...However, since he now seems no different than CA, he too will be villanized..His trying to commit suicide showed me, he was really missing Caylee (or just needed attention?), had to speak out against his daugther since she wasn't saying anything and was told how he betrayed ICA.

ICA uses betrayal for guilt factors. I remember in her early jailhouse tapes, before her parents decided to stop visiting, she told them how she needed to be "veiwed" a victim, just like they are..this is where the stance changed for CA/GA, IMO...


"I need to be looked at as a victim because…I’m just as much of a victim as the rest of you. And it hasn’t been portrayed that way.”

“My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me. You don’t understand.”


The below video, when CA tells ICA she's not doing well, she smirks behind her hand going to her eye (I believe ICA wants CA to hurt!). ICA has no feelings for anyone but herself. I truly do feel for the situation the A's are in...however, they should have stayed steadfast and had her tell the truth, not keep enableing her in all her glory. Their first impression was the true one, IMO...gut feelings are always the first to come into play...you go off your "gut"...JMHO

At the 3:38 mark, CA asks if she thought about who she wanted to meet, ICA said she had to choose and she chose dad...CA seems to have felt "hurt" that ICA chose GA over her...she says, here then, talk to your dad....seems jealousy runs deep within this family...JMHO

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3xJi0Lu_fc&feature=related[/ame]


I don't feel anyone in this immediate family will go against ICA at this point since it will be a betrayal to ICA...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[kbl8201]

GA will crack 87 29.69%
CA will crack 0 0%
LA will crack 56 19.11%
KC will crack 4 1.37%
NO ONE will crack -they will stick it out till the bitter end! 171 58.36%


Not one person believes CA will crack...spot on, IMO...



My problem with GA is how much he's changed, after his GJTestimony. Had he just stayed the course, folk would continue to feel for him, have sympathy for him and what he's facing. Had he continued to be a voice for Caylee people would think highly of him...However, since he now seems no different than CA, he too will be villanized..His trying to commit suicide showed me, he was really missing Caylee (or just needed attention?), had to speak out against his daugther since she wasn't saying anything and was told how he betrayed ICA.

ICA uses betrayal for guilt factors. I remember in her early jailhouse tapes, before her parents decided to stop visiting, she told them how she needed to be "veiwed" a victim, just like they are..this is where the stance changed for CA/GA, IMO...


"I need to be looked at as a victim because…I’m just as much of a victim as the rest of you. And it hasn’t been portrayed that way.”

“My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me. You don’t understand.”


The below video, when CA tells ICA she's not doing well, she smirks behind her hand going to her eye (I believe ICA wants CA to hurt!). ICA has no feelings for anyone but herself. I truly do feel for the situation the A's are in...however, they should have stayed steadfast and had her tell the truth, not keep enableing her in all her glory. Their first impression was the true one, IMO...gut feelings are always the first to come into play...you go off your "gut"...JMHO

At the 3:38 mark, CA asks if she thought about who she wanted to meet, ICA said she had to choose and she chose dad...CA seems to have felt "hurt" that ICA chose GA over her...she says, here then, talk to your dad....seems jealousy runs deep within this family...JMHO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3xJi0Lu_fc&feature=related


I don't feel anyone in this immediate family will go against ICA at this point since it will be a betrayal to ICA...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

cindy should be glad she chose george over her, and george should be pissed. but neither seems to want to admit to themselves there daughter is evil and not redeemable. then again, they're no saints themselves.

no, they will never break. unless they get the right offer for a book deal or from abc

 

[CentralFLMama]

If anyone will crack it'll be George. He has been on the edge since the start. I dont see Casey ever cracking, but I think Cindy is even less likely to crack than Casey herself. CA is like a pitbull who cant let go.

 

[Dignity4Victims]

GA will crack 87 29.69%
CA will crack 0 0%
LA will crack 56 19.11%
KC will crack 4 1.37%
NO ONE will crack -they will stick it out till the bitter end! 171 58.36%


Not one person believes CA will crack...spot on, IMO...



My problem with GA is how much he's changed, after his GJTestimony. Had he just stayed the course, folk would continue to feel for him, have sympathy for him and what he's facing. Had he continued to be a voice for Caylee people would think highly of him...However, since he now seems no different than CA, he too will be villanized..His trying to commit suicide showed me, he was really missing Caylee (or just needed attention?), had to speak out against his daugther since she wasn't saying anything and was told how he betrayed ICA.

ICA uses betrayal for guilt factors. I remember in her early jailhouse tapes, before her parents decided to stop visiting, she told them how she needed to be "veiwed" a victim, just like they are..this is where the stance changed for CA/GA, IMO...


"I need to be looked at as a victim because…I’m just as much of a victim as the rest of you. And it hasn’t been portrayed that way.”

“My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me. You don’t understand.”


The below video, when CA tells ICA she's not doing well, she smirks behind her hand going to her eye (I believe ICA wants CA to hurt!). ICA has no feelings for anyone but herself. I truly do feel for the situation the A's are in...however, they should have stayed steadfast and had her tell the truth, not keep enableing her in all her glory. Their first impression was the true one, IMO...gut feelings are always the first to come into play...you go off your "gut"...JMHO

At the 3:38 mark, CA asks if she thought about who she wanted to meet, ICA said she had to choose and she chose dad...CA seems to have felt "hurt" that ICA chose GA over her...she says, here then, talk to your dad....seems jealousy runs deep within this family...JMHO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3xJi0Lu_fc&feature=related


I don't feel anyone in this immediate family will go against ICA at this point since it will be a betrayal to ICA...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

It's pretty telling that people believe Casey, the very murderer herself, will come clean before Cindy ever would, isn't it?

What a sad state of affairs considering Cindy is that precious baby's grandmother.

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

Cindy is just a hard nut shell. There is no nutmeat inside. If her brittle shell is broken,everyone could see its empty inside.... no soul ,she doesn't exist its all a show of shell. She can't crack! ,within there is nothing. She can't let everyone know she is & has nothing but a shell.:snooty:

 

[Just Jayla]

These people know how to sucker money from others. All George would have to do is write a "tell-all" book, hit the morning and prime-time news shows, make a call to Oprah, Geraldo, JVM, and NG, and he'd have plenty of money. Nah, I don't think this family will ever admit that their daughter is a murderer. jmo.

I would tend to agree, but sometimes GA needs to have things spelled out to him-Perhaps if he reads here, he'll see your post and have an "ah-hah" moment!

 

[Just Jayla]

If anyone will crack it'll be George. He has been on the edge since the start. I dont see Casey ever cracking, but I think Cindy is even less likely to crack than Casey herself. CA is like a pitbull who cant let go.

I don't even know if GA will knowingly crack, I think the state can back him into it before he even knows what he's saying. Like his depo with the state, he got very agitated when they 'caught' him playing fast and loose with the lawnmower/gas can facts.

 

[DaughterAlice]

7-25-2010

Just for the heck of it, I've decided to blow the cobwebs off this old poll & see how people feel about it now.

Now that GA is being investigated, and has seemingly stopped putting money into KC's account, is he possibly on the edge of cracking?

Does CA's testimony show a possible change of heart for her? (IMO, the answer is a resounding NO, but I'm trying to be fair....)

Could Lee crack in a wave of nervous/uncomfortable chuckles & grins?

Maybe the lack of new shampoo and beef jerky will drive KC finally over the edge to a confession?

If you already voted, would you feel inclined now to change your vote?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I have no clue. Time will tell and more time and more time.

Is it possible there is someone else out there who knows the truth? What would happen if a person came forward and told LE now that they know what happened? But why would someone sit on the truth for so long - you'd think it would eat them up too. Why would a bunch of liars deserve that kind of loyalty?