The Anthony Family: Who Might be the First to Tell the Truth?

[LinasK]

Hi Linask.

:wave:

 

[logicalgirl]

there is no plea coming. The state has the body, has the evidence. If she had tried for a plea before the body was found, maybe. But now, there is no reward for the state. We know what was done. Casey is not going to stand up in front of everyoen and tell them how she killed Caylee, never going happen, imo. and the State does not need her to unless they want to save money re trial. But that means she has to stand up and tell everything and you know what, Cindy would still deny it and say she did it to save her life, but she really didn't do it.

Solace I thought for the longest time if you were going to enter a guilty plea, you had to make a statement in detail about the crime. But about four or five months ago, I asked AZLawyer that question, and she said ICA only has to agree to the plea to the Judge and say she understands the ramifications, and her lawyer can read her statement. I don't even think the statement absolutely has to happen.

So now it isn't having to face the court and fess up in detail that is holding ICA back from attempting a plea deal.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I think the main reason Casey will go to trial is because it's only exciting thing that is going to happen in her life EVER AGAIN.....after the trial it's just four walls and days stretching into months / years / decades.

 

[LinasK]

I think the main reason Casey will go to trial is because it's only exciting thing that is going to happen in her life EVER AGAIN.....after the trial it's just four walls and days stretching into months / years / decades.

Yup! And as much as she complained about being dragged to court, and the outfits Cindy picked out for her, she thoroughly enjoys the attention and the analysis of her looks!

 

[logicalgirl]

I think the main reason Casey will go to trial is because it's only exciting thing that is going to happen in her life EVER AGAIN.....after the trial it's just four walls and days stretching into months / years / decades.

You left off the last part of your sentence - and continuing to enjoy denying visits from her family.

 

[ynotdivein]

7-25-2010

Just for the heck of it, I've decided to blow the cobwebs off this old poll & see how people feel about it now.

Thanks for bumping, DA! After the latest hearing I found myself re-evaluating my thoughts on this topic.

Now that GA is being investigated, and has seemingly stopped putting money into KC's account, is he possibly on the edge of cracking?

:cow: GA has been on the edge of cracking under pressure, and on the edge of manhood, for some time now; long before Caylee was murdered. Caylee's murder in fact seemed to catalyze him in some balky way. He put the map down on the table in front of Casey--and ended up driving around the hotel parking lot that night presumably after CA yipped him out of the house for daring to put the Princess on the spot. His GJ testimony shackled Casey--and then he had to backpedal and toe the CA line to keep a roof over his head. I still think if it's gonna be anyone it will be GA.

Does CA's testimony show a possible change of heart for her? (IMO, the answer is a resounding NO, but I'm trying to be fair....)

Tests have conclusively shown that it is impossible to undergo a "change of" heart without first having a "heart" itself....

Could Lee crack in a wave of nervous/uncomfortable chuckles & grins?

Yes, and a Technicolor unicorn could fly out of my nose the next time I sneeze. (Sorry, sorry, little bit bitter after LA's last court appearance. Might be better if a pair of khaki pants and a dress shirt flew out of my nose at next sneeze; I could mail them to LA for the trial. Oh and a dress for Mallory.)

(If any of the above happens, WS will be among the first to know.)

Maybe the lack of new shampoo and beef jerky will drive KC finally over the edge to a confession?

Psychopath. There will be no confession from KC. There is no guilt within her. She lacks the emotional circuitry to feel or comprehend "guilt". She has no understanding of remorse, not even the vaguest whisper of a doubt that this situation is in any way due to her own actions. There is no rehabilitation and in fact therapy apparently makes them worse, so every visit from this Dr. Gold and mitigation specialists and whatnot are likely just reinforcing KC's sense of superiority, her lack or conscience or remorse, her belief--no, her KNOWLEDGE--that she is the wronged party in all this.

If you already voted, would you feel inclined now to change your vote?

I am kicking LA to the curb, but hanging on to GA as my last best hope.

Did I say :cow:? 'Cause all this is just :cow:.

 

[Baznme]

I hope I did that multi-quote thing right. :waitasec:

I may be wrong about this but if she pleads this way with no deal from the SA, isn't she risking the DP? If her lawyers suggest this to her, they aren't doing right by their client IMO... but then we all know how JB operates. :loser: Maybe one of our lawyers can post on this and let us know how this would work.

She had her opportunity way back when IIRC to make a deal but to no avail......BUT.....in KC's mind.......she seems to take things right to the bitter end and suddenly changes her mind about her circumstance. She's not in touch with reality, as it is, she's facing the DP, so what would be the difference if she did decide to tell the truth? She may count on a admission of guilt as being her saving grace to a jury that could make a determination against the DP in exchange for her confession. If JB has anything left for her case, this may be it.

 

[Gma Kat]

I selected GA will crack, but that's not really what I think will happen, I just think he gets so tangled up in his own lies that he will be confronted with the truth and just not be able to wiggle out and then have to admit something. His lies are a lot more transparent than the others, so I think they may focus on him first at trial.. I don't think he will suddenly develop a conscience.

ITA ZsaZsa...I dont' believe anyone of them will "crack" - by my definitation of "crack" which is to break down and tell the truth.

I think, as you do, that the person most likely to REVEAL THE TRUTH would be GA. As you stated, once tripped up on the stand, GA would be the most likely to spill his guts.

I find it kinda hilarious that after a couple of months, STILL NOT ONE PERSON HERE BELIEVES CA WILL CRACK! :banghead:

 

[ZsaZsa]

She had her opportunity way back when IIRC to make a deal but to no avail......BUT.....in KC's mind.......she seems to take things right to the bitter end and suddenly changes her mind about her circumstance. She's not in touch with reality, as it is, she's facing the DP, so what would be the difference if she did decide to tell the truth? She may count on a admission of guilt as being her saving grace to a jury that could make a determination against the DP in exchange for her confession. If JB has anything left for her case, this may be it.

When GA was describing KC to Police at the beginning of the case he said something like My daughter will always take things as far as they can possibly go- and then she will push it further. I expect the Defense to beg for a deal on the day the trial is set to open. She will have gone as far as she can go at that point.
She also lives in denial. She spent 7 months waiting for her pregnancy to go away before she could no longer sustain the lie that she had never had sex.

 

[Gypsy Road]

I voted no one will crack! Not even in the bitter end!

 

[tiff07]

No one will crack. Judge Strickland summed it up perfectly for me when he said the truth and Miss Anthony are strangers. Imo ICA acted alone, therefore the exact details are known only to her and she will never tell. Too self serving, evil and selfish imo to tell. Correct me if im wrong but its my understanding that even if she takes a plea she is under no obligation to provide the answers of what happened.

 

[TorisMom003]

When GA was describing KC to Police at the beginning of the case he said something like My daughter will always take things as far as they can possibly go- and then she will push it further. I expect the Defense to beg for a deal on the day the trial is set to open. She will have gone as far as she can go at that point.She also lives in denial. She spent 7 months waiting for her pregnancy to go away before she could no longer sustain the lie that she had never had sex.

RBBM

I don't think that Casey will make a deal on the day the trial is set to start. I believe that she will wait until all of the evidence has been presented, witnesses testified, closing arguements done and the jury having just left the courtroom to go deliberate (SP?). Then if she is going to beg for a deal or plea that will be the time. Pushing the envelope for her appears to be pushing it to the furthest extreme possible. Heck, she may even wait a couple of hours after the jury has been out.

 

[nums24]

After reading today's letters, I am confident it will not be Cindy!

Shirley Plesea gets my vote!

 

[beach]

After reading today's letters, I am confident it will not be Cindy!

Shirley Plesea gets my vote!

I've always thought Shirley & Rick would testify honestly.


After today's letters and emails, I am convinced that out of the immeidate family the ONLY glimmer of hope is George. And that one is very, very slim. But I would bet my first born it ain't gonna be Cindy or Lee. And we KNOW KC isn't gonna confess.

 

[countzero]

388 votes and Cindy is still a zero in more ways than this poll count.

Yep, I said that.

 

[Solace]

No one will crack. Judge Strickland summed it up perfectly for me when he said the truth and Miss Anthony are strangers. Imo ICA acted alone, therefore the exact details are known only to her and she will never tell. Too self serving, evil and selfish imo to tell. Correct me if im wrong but its my understanding that even if she takes a plea she is under no obligation to provide the answers of what happened.

The only reason they would offer her a plea deal is to spare the cost of a trial AND FOR HER TO ADMIT IN COURT IN DETAIL how the murder took place. She would have to come clean about it all and knowing her propensity for lying, that is almost impossible.

They have already found the body and know it is Caylee and they know she was murdered INTENTIONALLY because of the tape over her mouth and NOSE. This was no accident.

 

[Solace]

What is George going to come clean about? He has already said it was decomp - so he changed his story to now say it was garbage - he implicated his daughter to the grand jury, to the FBI and to the detectives. He changed his story so he could continue living with Cindy (who is not above implicating the innocent).

George is going to lash out at the trial and Perry is going to pull him in and tell him to compose himself and answer the questions. This is not going to be a clone of the Zanaida depos where George looked and acted like a child but who was more than contrite when the lawyers threatened to end the depo and take it to the Judge and ask for sanctions against George (which would include costs being charged to the Anthonys).

Lets not forget that the defense is going to use the sexual abuse angle which is tearing George up right now. That may not come in until the sentencing phase though.

 

[wantsjustice]

What is George going to come clean about? He has already said it was decomp - so he changed his story to now say it was garbage - he implicated his daughter to the grand jury, to the FBI and to the detectives. He changed his story so he could continue living with Cindy (who is not above implicating the innocent).

George is going to lash out at the trial and Perry is going to pull him in and tell him to compose himself and answer the questions. This is not going to be a clone of the Zanaida depos where George looked and acted like a child but who was more than contrite when the lawyers threatened to end the depo and take it to the Judge and ask for sanctions against George (which would include costs being charged to the Anthonys).

Lets not forget that the defense is going to use the sexual abuse angle which is tearing George up right now. That may not come in until the sentencing phase though.

I think GA is done playing the Cindy game here. Once Casey put his name into the picture of him possibly molesting her.. He seems to have had enough of all of them and I think he will be out for himself and say the truth again, and not give into the made up stories they stated in the media time and time again.

For the Defense to bring up the possibility that he had inappropriate contact with Casey, it will have to be brought up during the Trial, to be able to use this angle for her sentencing phase. One can't bring up New Information in Sentencing, unless it was already entered into the court room prior to this phase. imo

 

[Solace]

I think GA is done playing the Cindy game here. Once Casey put his name into the picture of him possibly molesting her.. He seems to have had enough of all of them and I think he will be out for himself and say the truth again, and not give into the made up stories they stated in the media time and time again.

For the Defense to bring up the possibility that he had inappropriate contact with Casey, it will have to be brought up during the Trial, to be able to use this angle for her sentencing phase. One can't bring up New Information in Sentencing, unless it was already entered into the court room prior to this phase. imo

Interesting - I did not know that - Better yet. I agree with your first paragraph also. When they start with the molestation - George is going to lose it. Any which way you look at it.

 

[Solace]

Solace I thought for the longest time if you were going to enter a guilty plea, you had to make a statement in detail about the crime. But about four or five months ago, I asked AZLawyer that question, and she said ICA only has to agree to the plea to the Judge and say she understands the ramifications, and her lawyer can read her statement. I don't even think the statement absolutely has to happen.

So now it isn't having to face the court and fess up in detail that is holding ICA back from attempting a plea deal.

Maybe it is different from state to state. I only know that I have seen plea deals on Court tv and the defendant has to say in detail what he did.