The Anthony Family: Who Might be the First to Tell the Truth?

[Solace]

I don't disagree with you Solace..
Yet I find Cindy comes across, even from the beginning of this case when I watched her here on local news, as confrontational..

Yes. She is very confrontational and as time went on became even more so. I think that is desparation.

But this was so early in the case and Megyn came across on national TV as a bully. She went right into the area that she wanted to talk about and I know that they invited Cindy on and said they wanted to get Caylee's picture out there and then Megyn pulled her interviewer chit.

Listen, we all know that Cindy is a liar and that she is doing an about face within 24 hours of accusing KC, but she has lost her granddaughter, largely due to her ignoring the signs, and a little compassion by Megyn was certainly warranted. I think she would have gotten more out of her if she had handled the interview better also.

I mean it is easy to fight with Cindy - no contest. Her and George are not the smartest people and anyone can start a fight with them, anyone. So it was not Megyn's finest hour by any stretch. IMO

Thank you.

 

[LolaMoon08]

:truce:

I think Megan Kelly simply just said what was on all our minds at that point. I have no problem with the way she handled Cindy. I am a firm believer that you get treated how you treat people and Cindy got exactly what was coming to her.

Greta laughed at Cindy on air... she covered it up good by stating that she was simply laughing because she hoped that she wasn't one of those reporters asking stupid questions, but in all reality, you could tell Greta was laughing at the gall of this woman coming on HER show and trying to tell HER how to do her job and insulting her in the same breath.

Cindy was, and still is, out of control. Just because it had only been days since Caylee was reported "missing" doesn't give her a free pass to treat people the way she did. Cindy hasn't changed one bit since these early interviews. She has no respect for anyone. She gets no pass from me. I just wish more people would have called her out... especially early on and maybe she would have backed off and decided that her way about going about things was wrong. Instead you have reporters that allowed her to take full control over the situation and allowed her to make a circus out of Caylee's murder.

:truce:

 

[Solace]

:truce:

I think Megan Kelly simply just said what was on all our minds at that point. I have no problem with the way she handled Cindy. I am a firm believer that you get treated how you treat people and Cindy got exactly what was coming to her.

Greta laughed at Cindy on air... she covered it up good by stating that she was simply laughing because she hoped that she wasn't one of those reporters asking stupid questions, but in all reality, you could tell Greta was laughing at the gall of this woman coming on HER show and trying to tell HER how to do her job and insulting her in the same breath.

Cindy was, and still is, out of control. Just because it had only been days since Caylee was reported "missing" doesn't give her a free pass to treat people the way she did. Cindy hasn't changed one bit since these early interviews. She has no respect for anyone. She gets no pass from me. I just wish more people would have called her out... especially early on and maybe she would have backed off and decided that her way about going about things was wrong. Instead you have reporters that allowed her to take full control over the situation and allowed her to make a circus out of Caylee's murder.

:truce:

I understand what you are saying and I agree that Cindy rubs just about everyone the wrong way. She is a constant liar, she was obnoxious at the Morgan deposition and on and on.

But I just feel this woman is in PROFOUND denial because she KNOWS that she let the ball drop and if it were not for her doing what she did and let KC take this child, Caylee would be alive.

This is a horrible thing for anyone to have to live with and I believe she is living with this. What is worse than saying "I should have". WE have all said it in our lives and it makes us feel terrible when we realize "if only I did this". But to have to say I should have and I did not and the result is my grandchild is dead is epic. It is beyond anything I would want to live with.

Cindy is going to get the truth thrown smack in her face at this trial and it is going to be overwhelming or she is going to go further into denial and come out with an indignant look on her face because she is trying to protect herself.

She is not strong enough to see the truth yet. Just mo. Thanks

And those little men with the white flags are hilarious.

 

[tsitra01]

:truce:

I think Megan Kelly simply just said what was on all our minds at that point. I have no problem with the way she handled Cindy. I am a firm believer that you get treated how you treat people and Cindy got exactly what was coming to her.

Greta laughed at Cindy on air... she covered it up good by stating that she was simply laughing because she hoped that she wasn't one of those reporters asking stupid questions, but in all reality, you could tell Greta was laughing at the gall of this woman coming on HER show and trying to tell HER how to do her job and insulting her in the same breath.

Cindy was, and still is, out of control. Just because it had only been days since Caylee was reported "missing" doesn't give her a free pass to treat people the way she did. Cindy hasn't changed one bit since these early interviews. She has no respect for anyone. She gets no pass from me. I just wish more people would have called her out... especially early on and maybe she would have backed off and decided that her way about going about things was wrong. Instead you have reporters that allowed her to take full control over the situation and allowed her to make a circus out of Caylee's murder.

:truce:

ITA, no problem what so ever the way Megan handled Cindy. Cindy was protecting ICA from the very beginning. She knew the day that car entered her garage that Caylee was the source of that smell. Her and George also
knew what ICA was capable of after the fight that occurred prior to KC
leaving with Caylee. They knew ICA did'nt have the means to care for Caylee.

No clothes, diapers ,food and etc. for Caylee. Cindy claims when asked "NO RED FLAG THERE" But continues to red flag all of ICA friends. That felt good
to hear Megan hold her own with Cindy. More people should put her in her place.

 

[Snaz]

When this case first broke, my introduction to it was watching CA on Greta's show, making a complete fool of herself. Then on July 29 came the interview with Megyn. At that time, I did not feel sympathy for "the grieving grandmother," because she came across as a control freak.... she wanted certain information out there... and she played the grieving grandmother card every time she did not want to discuss something.

I really doubt that Megyn's producers would have booked Cindy to come on their show strictly to show Caylee's picture and nothing else. The problem was that Cindy didn't like the questions being asked and tried to take over, just as she has continued to do in every interview since then.

Several of you mentioned that Cindy hung up the phone, but I never got that impression. I had always believed (and still do) that because CA would not shut up and was trying to take control of the interview, the station simply cut her mic.

I can see where some might have perceived Megyn as a bully; however, I myself, did not. I thought Cindy was the bully.... and it seemed my first impression of her was the correct one. Cindy is a bully.

Another thing....This story broke right around July 16/17. The interview with Megyn was not until July 29. That's almost two full weeks of seeing Cindy here and there and listening to her do exactly what she tried to do with Megyn AND Greta. By the time Cindy was on Megyn's show, Megyn (as well as 99% of the free world) pretty much had her number and already knew Cindy's propensity to try to control every situation and feed lots of B.S. to anyone who will listen.

JMO

 

[logicalgirl]

ITA, no problem what so ever the way Megan handled Cindy. Cindy was protecting ICA from the very beginning. She knew the day that car entered her garage that Caylee was the source of that smell. Her and George also
knew what ICA was capable of after the fight that occurred prior to KC
leaving with Caylee. They knew ICA did'nt have the means to care for Caylee.

No clothes, diapers ,food and etc. for Caylee. Cindy claims when asked "NO RED FLAG THERE" But continues to red flag all of ICA friends. That felt good
to hear Megan hold her own with Cindy. More people should put her in her place.

I agree with Solace that Cindy was in profound denial and also suffered from tremendous guilt knowing she dropped the ball. Cindy has many characteristics that are far from endearing, however, when we face huge tragedy we don't automatically turn into angelic personalities, often our worst traits are exacerbated IMO.

What was the point in turning aggressive investigator with CA except to get a bigger news story? It wasn't helpful to the search for Caylee, it wasn't helpful to getting more information out of CA, it simply provided more bricks in the wall for the family to circle the wagons and refuse to cooperate with the investigation and accept the evidence. What was the difference between Megan's taunting and the protesters? Done at a more refined level, but IMO on an equal playing field.

 

[Solace]

I agree with Solace that Cindy was in profound denial and also suffered from tremendous guilt knowing she dropped the ball. Cindy has many characteristics that are far from endearing, however, when we face huge tragedy we don't automatically turn into angelic personalities, often our worst traits are exacerbated IMO.

What was the point in turning aggressive investigator with CA except to get a bigger news story? It wasn't helpful to the search for Caylee, it wasn't helpful to getting more information out of CA, it simply provided more bricks in the wall for the family to circle the wagons and refuse to cooperate with the investigation and accept the evidence. What was the difference between Megan's taunting and the protesters? Done at a more refined level, but IMO on an equal playing field.

That is all I am saying. Thank you Logical.

CA has not begun to feel how bad it is going to become. When this trial starts and the activity begins outside the court and what goes down in this court, Cindy is going to have to face some things that she has just refused to. Nobody took care of this baby and it was up to the grandparents to make sure that she was safe, and they did not do it. I mean some would kill themselves knowing that they did not do this.

I would never want to be Cindy. Never.

 

[suepitzl]

I still think George will open up and be honest. MOO

 

[ZsaZsa]

ITA, no problem what so ever the way Megan handled Cindy. Cindy was protecting ICA from the very beginning. She knew the day that car entered her garage that Caylee was the source of that smell. Her and George also
knew what ICA was capable of after the fight that occurred prior to KC
leaving with Caylee. They knew ICA did'nt have the means to care for Caylee.

No clothes, diapers ,food and etc. for Caylee. Cindy claims when asked "NO RED FLAG THERE" But continues to red flag all of ICA friends. That felt good
to hear Megan hold her own with Cindy. More people should put her in her place.

She was a practising Attorney, so she does recognize BS when it's presented to her. I much preferred her interview than someone like Maggie Rodriguez who never asked any probing questions and basically provides a platform for CA to spin.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I still think George will open up and be honest. MOO

I really hope you're right, but I have a feeling that Eggtree's assessment of GA is more realistic:-
http://eggtreenews.wordpress.com/2010/03/13/local-imbecile-a-soul-sucking-mooch-shameless-pervert/

 

[Snaz]

That is all I am saying. Thank you Logical.

CA has not begun to feel how bad it is going to become. When this trial starts and the activity begins outside the court and what goes down in this court, Cindy is going to have to face some things that she has just refused to. Nobody took care of this baby and it was up to the grandparents to make sure that she was safe, at they did not do it. I mean some would kill themselves knowing that they did not do this.

I would never want to be Cindy. Never.

BBM

Solace, I appreciate your thoughts and admire that you are able to show compassion for Cindy.

However, where we differ in opinion is your statement I bolded. That in a nutshell is part of the problem with Cindy. You (and many others) appear to feel that Cindy is in denial. But IMO, she is not in denial... she simply REFUSES to acknowledge the truth. She KNOWS what happened. At the beginning, she prayed she was wrong, but she knew she wasn't. Now she is just too proud and stubborn (and hopefully even a little humiliated, but I tend to doubt it) to admit she does know and has known all along that KC killed Caylee. Her single focus since this all began has not been "justice for Caylee." It has been "save KC, at anyone's expense... matters not who."

As always, JMHO.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

IMO, the interviewers' styles have not mattered in the least. The Anthony family was not telling the truth (unless it accidentally benefitted them) to anyone. It wouldn't matter if the interviewer was genuflecting and cooling Cindy with huge feathered fans ~ Cindy would never say more (or less) that she deemed "releasable." So, even if it is true that Megyn's interview wasn't helpful to the search, I certainly don't think it was detrimental, either. And we don't know that someone who was watching finally heard enough from this bullish family and it may have been the turning point that they decided to volunteer to help find Caylee.

I know, at the time, I was relieved to finally hear I wasn't the only one who had those questions running through my mind. And now, in retrospect, I feel certain that at the time of this interview Cindy was already in full-blown cover-up mode. . . moo.

 

[Solace]

BBM

Solace, I appreciate your thoughts and admire that you are able to show compassion for Cindy.

However, where we differ in opinion is your statement I bolded. That in a nutshell is part of the problem with Cindy. You (and many others) appear to feel that Cindy is in denial. But IMO, she is not in denial... she simply REFUSES to acknowledge the truth. She KNOWS what happened. At the beginning, she prayed she was wrong, but she knew she wasn't. Now she is just too proud and stubborn (and hopefully even a little humiliated, but I tend to doubt it) to admit she does know and has known all along that KC killed Caylee. Her single focus since this all began has not been "justice for Caylee." It has been "save KC, and anyone's expense... matters not who."

As always, JMHO.

I completely understand your feelings. I really do. But as this case nears, I think of what they are going to HAVE TO FACE, and it is going to be very very harsh. I think Agent Savage said to George that Cindy is not ready to face that her family is not perfect and it is going to be very difficult for her when she does. A nice way of saying she does not want to face that her daughter is a murderer.

Cindy had already told Ryan Paisley to stay away from KC because she is a sociopath. Cindy let a sociopath take care of the baby and the baby ended up dead. I cannot think of anything worse than dealling with that. It is about as bad as it gets.

She is going to suffer tremendously. One can only deny for so long. It is going to eat at her soul. She will either become very sick or go deeper into this false reality she has created.

 

[Snaz]

I completely understand your feelings. I really do. But as this case nears, I think of what they are going to HAVE TO FACE, and it is going to be very very harsh. I think Agent Savage said to George that Cindy is not ready to face that her family is not perfect and it is going to be very difficult for her when she does.

Cindy has already told Ryan Paisley to stay away from KC because she is a sociopath. Cindy let a sociopath take care of the baby and the baby ended up dead. I cannot think of anything worse than dealling with that. It is about as bad as it gets.

She is going to suffer tremendously. One can only deny for so long. It is going to eat at her soul. She will either become very sick or go deeper into this false reality she has created.

Thanks, Solace. I remember the FBI agent telling GA that CA was ready to face the truth about her family. But that was 2 1/2 years ago. She has had more than enough time to come to the realization that her family is not perfect. If she doesn't yet believe it, IMO, it is because she REFUSES to believe it, mainly because she believes it reflects on her as a wife and mother. At some point, one has to accept the facts of life and move on.

I guess we can agree to disagree because I believe, and most likely always will believe, that Cindy long ago knew what happened and faced it personally. We will never see that publicly though.

Although I feel badly for Cindy that she lost her grandaughter, that is where any sympathy stops. The trial will be hard on Cindy, hearing what the prosecution and State's witnesses have to say. But it won't be any harder on her to hear the facts than it is on any other parent/grandparent who has lost someone they love. Many have to sit through all that and much more.

JMHO

 

[Solace]

Thanks, Solace. I remember the FBI agent telling GA that CA was ready to face the truth about her family. But that was 2 1/2 years ago. She has had more than enough time to come to the realization that her family is not perfect. If she doesn't yet believe it, IMO, it is because she REFUSES to believe it, mainly because she believes it reflects on her as a wife and mother. At some point, one has to accept the facts of life and move on.

I guess we can agree to disagree because I believe, and most likely always will believe, that Cindy long ago knew what happened and faced it personally. We will never see that publicly though.

Although I feel badly for Cindy that she lost her grandaughter, that is where any sympathy stops. The trial will be hard on Cindy, hearing what the prosecution and State's witnesses have to say. But it won't be any harder on her to hear the facts than it is on any other parent/grandparent who has lost someone they love. Many have to sit through all that and much more.

JMHO

I hear ya. In the 48 hours interview, she says "what kind of a mother would I be if I didn't support my daughter?".

She is defending her actions here as she has done time and again re "there were no red flags". The flags were all over the place and they started when KC was very young. But in this period, they were all over the Board, and when she makes statements like the one above, it tells me that she is desperate (sp?). She knows KC was back and forth in the house from June 15th on, stealing money and getting clothes. She told this to Brittany who lived down the street.

It is all coming in. All the lies, all the conversations with the neighbors, the ongoing fighting with KC. The fact that KC called her a "f$%#ing idiot" when she was out on bail, the fact that she did tell Jesse what she really thought of KC and she did do the same with Tony Lazzarro. It is all coming in.

If she has abated the suffering now by using this techinique of denial, it is going to end when the trial starts.

And we got a small example of how well she does under fire when she left the courtroom as the prosecutor described Caylee's last hours. Wait till his opening statement. And then the witnesses.

She is going to suffer, and I think she knows it. But she is trying to hold on to something that does not exist.

If you notice, I don't think KC even acknowledges Cindy when she is in court. At least I have not seen it.

And inevitably, they ALL find religion after the fact. Which is another contradiction. Because to get foregiveness, one has to be sorry.

Anyway, we agree to disagree.

 

[Blaise]

That interview was the first time i heard Cindy refer to herself as a 'grieving grandmother' in order to get her way, and even at that early point, it struck me as odd. 'I am a grieving grandmother SO you must . . . '. Wouldn't be the last time, either.

I've never heard that in any of the missing children cases I've followed.

My ex-husband is serving 15 yrs. for abusing my daughters, and my daughters and I have fought like heck to keep people from defining us as victims, and I remember one time hearing the older daughter tell the younger daughter, 'we can never, ever, ever use what happened to us as a crutch.' And they haven't.

On the day my ex-husband was sentenced, I was shopping at Target, and I rounded a corner and caught a glimpse of myself in a mirror, and I busted out laughing. I was the picture of woe. Shoulders down, head down, tragic look on my face. And I said to myself, 'Self- Get your shoulders up and pick up your feet. You look like a fool.'

One of the most distasteful things about Cindy Anthony is how she jumped on the 'Grieving Grandmother' bandwagon from the getgo. With gusto. She would use this terrible, terrible, terrible thing that had happened to her family, and she would use it for all it was worth, to get what she wanted, whether it was getting the public to listen to scenarios that defied logic ('she is not speaking because someone is threatening our family' . . . um, hello, Cindy, you're talking to the OCSD and the FBI . . . they gots resources, i.e. guns and swat teams and incendiaries and the like) or air time or trips or $$$.

Blaise (the queen of the run-on sentence)

 

[Snaz]

That interview was the first time i heard Cindy refer to herself as a 'grieving grandmother' in order to get her way, and even at that early point, it struck me as odd. 'I am a grieving grandmother SO you must . . . '. Wouldn't be the last time, either.

I've never heard that in any of the missing children cases I've followed.

My ex-husband is serving 15 yrs. for abusing my daughters, and my daughters and I have fought like heck to keep people from defining us as victims, and I remember one time hearing the older daughter tell the younger daughter, 'we can never, ever, ever use what happened to us as a crutch.' And they haven't.

On the day my ex-husband was sentenced, I was shopping at Target, and I rounded a corner and caught a glimpse of myself in a mirror, and I busted out laughing. I was the picture of woe. Shoulders down, head down, tragic look on my face. And I said to myself, 'Self- Get your shoulders up and pick up your feet. You look like a fool.'

One of the most distasteful things about Cindy Anthony is how she jumped on the 'Grieving Grandmother' bandwagon from the getgo. With gusto. She would use this terrible, terrible, terrible thing that had happened to her family, and she would use it for all it was worth, to get what she wanted, whether it was getting the public to listen to scenarios that defied logic ('she is not speaking because someone is threatening our family' . . . um, hello, Cindy, you're talking to the OCSD and the FBI . . . they gots resources, i.e. guns and swat teams and incendiaries and the like) or air time or trips or $$$.

Blaise (the queen of the run-on sentence)

I am so sorry for what you and your daughters had to endure, but I applaud you for picking yourself up and moving forward... and teaching your girls that they are not victims, but they are survivors! It sounds like you have done a wonderful job in getting them through what happened to them.

I completely agree that Cindy tried to use the "grieving grandmother" thing to her advantage. And not an advantage in finding Caylee, but in covering for her evil spawn. I believe Cindy was in full cover-up mode from the very first TV appearance. I just can't understand why she can't see how all those appearances and her behavior during them has backfired on her. Or maybe she does and just doesn't care.

 

[Solace]

I am so sorry for what you and your daughters had to endure, but I applaud you for picking yourself up and moving forward... and teaching your girls that they are not victims, but they are survivors! It sounds like you have done a wonderful job in getting them through what happened to them.

I completely agree that Cindy tried to use the "grieving grandmother" thing to her advantage. And not an advantage in finding Caylee, but in covering for her evil spawn. I believe Cindy was in full cover-up mode from the very first TV appearance. I just can't understand why she can't see how all those appearances and her behavior during them has backfired on her. Or maybe she does and just doesn't care.

Well she got caught in a lie there saying "they left the car for two days at our house before they picked it up" and Yuri pinned the time down and she was up against the wall and used grieving grandmother.

I am curious as to how the state will expose hers and George's lying to people about the goings on in that house and whether they will be able to use it to show how the family lies. LDB is excellent at asking questions. This case is going to be fascinating to watch because Cindy and George are going to be called on lies.

I don't know how LDB and GA are going to go about it. They may just ask Cindy certain questions and then have other witnesses up there and ask them the same. I don't know.

 

[SunnyinMO]

I completely understand your feelings. I really do. But as this case nears, I think of what they are going to HAVE TO FACE, and it is going to be very very harsh. I think Agent Savage said to George that Cindy is not ready to face that her family is not perfect and it is going to be very difficult for her when she does. A nice way of saying she does not want to face that her daughter is a murderer.

Cindy had already told Ryan Paisley to stay away from KC because she is a sociopath. Cindy let a sociopath take care of the baby and the baby ended up dead. I cannot think of anything worse than dealling with that. It is about as bad as it gets.

She is going to suffer tremendously. One can only deny for so long. It is going to eat at her soul. She will either become very sick or go deeper into this false reality she has created.

I really appreciate your thoughts and I agree with the statement made by Mr. Savage. IMO Cindy knows exactly what happened to Caylee. She sent Dominic Casey into the woods to find Caylee's remains. To what end I don't know. I believe she is as much a sociopath as Casey is. She does not want the world to see her in a role other than the protective and loving parent and grandparents she has tried, unsuccessfully, to portray herself as. However, her 'real self' cannot stay hidden under the facade. We have seen the real Cindy on numerous occasions, but again IMO, most predominately during the deposition with Mr. Morgan. She will continue to portray the loving mother/grandmother until the penalty phase when the finger will be pointed at her, her constant controlling of the family will be uncovered and naked for the world to see. That's when IMO, we will again see/hear the real Cindy. And as we know, it is not a pretty sight. At times, I almost, feel sorry for all of them for being controlled by Cindy all these years. But that is no excuse for killing your child or for covering for Casey. I have no compassion for Cindy. And I will actually take great pleasure seeing her stripped naked of her lies and facade. She could have saved Caylee. She didn't. She loved her herself and how she looked to others, more than she loved Caylee.

 

[Solace]

On the day my ex-husband was sentenced, I was shopping at Target, and I rounded a corner and caught a glimpse of myself in a mirror, and I busted out laughing. I was the picture of woe. Shoulders down, head down, tragic look on my face. And I said to myself, 'Self- Get your shoulders up and pick up your feet. You look like a fool.'

You are a strong woman Blaise and it apparently rubbed off on your children.