The Anthony Family: Who Might be the First to Tell the Truth?

[Mohabi]

*At this very moment* I think that CA is the most likely person to tell the truth --> from now on. I think that Cindy ..finally.. sees the bottomless evil in her daughter. It must be horribly hard and I can imagine that she will waver between facing reality and complete disbelief (as before). I think we'll see a few relapses in the coming days, but in the end she will choose Caylee's side and refuse to support the person who took her life.

It's early to draw conclusions. After only CA's first testimony I am hopeful, but afraid to hold my breath....

 

[costalpilot]

I am leaning towards either george or lee...only because of the things she keeps telling about them and the "abuse"----other than that---It would surprise me if cindy or kc talked......(with out lying of course!!!!) :twocents:

good question but a whole bag of who knows in the answer!:waitasec:

you were RIGHT it was G because of the abuse allegations

you and ica were wrong about CA though (well not wrong, but surprised---me too!!!)

and that error is gonna cost ICA her life or freedom

thankfully

 

[newshound6]

This is a pet peeve of mine really off topic but I couldn't find the right thread to post on-when anyone says "this child was not reported missing for 31 days!" that is really important -but even more so ,the fact that Casey STILL WAS NOT THE ONE WHO REPORTED CAYLEE MISSING!! if it was up to CA alone she may have NEVER reported it!
sorry not CA but Casey

 

[angeldust]

Hey newshound6

Hopefully when LDB asks cindy on the stand next week about the 911 call she made it will be made abundantly clear that it was grandma who called it in and NOT ica.

Well thats what Im hopeing anyway, It really gets on my wick too.

x a

 

[costalpilot]

some seem to feel G n C haven't already flipped.

check this out:

http://drlillianglassbodylanguageblog.wordpress.com/

 

[JSR]

So do we still think that Lee will be completely forth coming??

I was so disappointed when I didn't see the same comfort level with the state and LA.

He seemed so conflicted today.

He petitioned the Court to sit in the whole trial. He couldn't possibly want to be there to support his sister could he??? Or maybe he really does want to hear the evidence against his sister to know what the real truth is ...

I thought I started to understand LA but I'm still baffled by his facial expressions and body language today.

I guess time will tell more about what is really going on with Lee.

 

[ZsaZsa]

So do we still think that Lee will be completely forth coming??

I was so disappointed when I didn't see the same comfort level with the state and LA.

He seemed so conflicted today.

He petitioned the Court to sit in the whole trial. He couldn't possibly want to be there to support his sister could he??? Or maybe he really does want to hear the evidence against his sister to know what the real truth is ...

I thought I started to understand LA but I'm still baffled by his facial expressions and body language today.

I guess time will tell more about what is really going on with Lee.

You're not alone. Bill Sheaffer WTV Analyst, called his questioning like trying to push mud up a hill!

 

[DAWN TREADER]

Lee Anthony's behavior (performance?) at Caylee's memorial was so over the top I had my doubts he could testify at his sister's murder trial without coming emotionally unglued. Surprise, surprise.

 

[larryphx]

After the Jury was released today, DT asked for a copy of GA's Grand Jury transcript. CM requested the copy saying he thinks GA testimony is already impeachable.
DT wants to compare what GA is now saying to his gj transcript.

State says they have a copy and will give one to JP tomorrow morning.

JA suggested an in camera review by the court to determine conflicts.
Is this transcript exempt from the Sunshine Law?

It's probably Casey telling Beaz """My dad changed his story""" mostly likely it was just one word or something really dumb.. Also did Beaz even listen to the Jail house tapes? His client looked really bad today.

 

[Pink Panther]

KC knows a lot of things about her family and what they did to try to help her after her arrest. She will use everything she knows in an attempt to save herself. Everyone in this family is in "self-preservation" mode now. To quote both JP and CA..."It is what it is".

moo

 

[cluciano63]

It is so odd for me to read through the older posts on this thread as I did not follow the case enough to know much about George or Cindy or Lee and their behaviors and am still catching up in those areas. It sounds as though they completely defended Casey to the extreme and even were accustory toward others.

And now that each one has testified a little bit, the tide seems to have turned completely and everyone is on the side of the Anthonys.

I am waiting until after they all finish testifying. There is still time for one or more of them to lean toward the defense. It may turn out to be too difficult for them to continue to help the state convict Casey, when they know nothing they do can ever bring Caylee back. (Although how they could ever even look at her again is beyond me-blood isn't that thick.)

 

[Justin Tyme]

It would be nice for any one of them to tell the truth. I have trouble imagining what a truthful "Anthony" would look like.

I don't think that you're going to see one. All for one and one for all!

 

[Paulette]

Watching the jail video of KC talking with her parents just makes me ill. Cindy & George are so treating her with kid gloves so she'll tell where Caylee is. I sensed that they knew who they were dealing with - a daughter that was manipulative. KC holds the key to heaven they think. They don't know Caylee is dead.

One wrong word and KC goes ballistic. Why I asked myself. Because KC has accepted that Caylee is dead & gone and doesn't matter any longer - what matters is her life now.

She longs to tell them "Just forget about Caylee - let's move on." But she has to pretend to be interested in finding her & that is getting on her last nerve.

Cindy & George & Lee have nothing to crack about! Geez...

 

[Zoe Bogart]

After seeing testimonies from GA, CA, and LA, I'm thinking Lee "I can't recall" Anthony has no fear of being labeled a molester. He can't recall crucial points. Isn't that something? GA and CA, well, they appeared "a bit" more truthful than they have been, but Cindy still runs miles with the fake friends stories as if they were true. "Casey told me", then she tells the story as though it actually happened the way Casey said, instead of adding qualifiers. I don't know, it just sounded to me like she's been accepting Casey's bull for ages, and never once questioned her stories, outrageous as they were.

I think all of the As are still walking on eggshells, knowing ICA has thrown them under the bus, yet not wanting to be the ones who toss her to the lions. While I believe GA and CA attempt to be there for Caylee, they are still not trying to hang Casey. Lee is just something else. "I don't recall". Indeed.

I will say this. I believe we are seeing a truly united George/Cindy companionship for the first time ever. They appear to be supporting each other more than anything else now and neither of them look at Casey they way they once did in court, begging for her to glance at them.

 

[Sleuth5]

I think the best we'll see from them is the partial truth. The jury will never know the extent of the A's obstructive efforts from 2008 on (at least I doubt that they will hear much of it if anything).

I believe the bottom line is that there is an awful lot of uncertainty as to what actually happened. CA has known for many years that ICA is a chronic liar and thief, but I do not believe her own narcissistic personality can accept the poor reflection that a murderer among her children would cast upon her. GA seems potentially more able to deal with the reality and does appear somewhat broken by that realization. LA is very much aware of ICA's bad behavior, but he has also received a good deal of his information filtered through his mother, who, like ICA, tends to wallow in victimhood when it suits her. I do not believe he is certain of what happened, but like his mother, probably prefers to imagine that it was simply an accident and ICA has dealt with it in her customarily self-serving and destructive manner.

To seek "truth" from this family is to presume they are clear on what that is. I am well aware of the endless speculation as to their involvement in the immediate aftermath of the event -- WS'ers have been positing theories since 2008 involving potential family involvement, particularly with regard to disposal of the body. However, I honestly believe that at this point only ICA knows what actually happened. I do, of course, believe that they all know that she knows.

As the jailhouse tapes played in open court this week and we relived the pathetic spectacle of GA and CA desperately staring at a monster hoping for the smallest piece of information, I was reminded of a Twilight Zone episode from many years past (dating myself here, and forgive me if the reference is obscure). The episode, entitled "It's a Good Life", starred Bill Mumy as a young boy who had the power to make anything he wished come true. As a consequence, his parents and everyone in town lived in mortal terror of him, as he had a nasty habit of "wishing people away into the cornfield," or turning them into all sorts of bizarre things. Thus, the adults in the episode tip-toed around him, terrified to incur his narcissistic wrath. Even today, it remains a powerful, well-acted episode.

I watched that episode the other night after seeing those videos again. It was all the more evocative as I realized that the terror on ICA's parents' faces was real, not simply well-acted for the sake of a teledrama. If I have a reason for saying what I've said here, it is that I cannot fathom that these people willingly sought to help that monster they sit before in those images, fully cognizant that she had actually murdered their grandchild. As unpalatable as the family could be at times these past years, I genuinely believe they had hope there was some truth to ICA's lies, right up to the moment poor Caylee's body was discovered.

I don't think they really want to know, or could accept, the truth about their daughter now.

MOO

 

[tezi]

I read somewhere on another site that someone had seen GA at a fast food restaurant close to the court during the last status hearing. Coincidence maybe because I`m hoping he`s working by now but who knows. CA wrote to ICA in a letter from last October that GA was finally seeing a counsellor with her and then he stopped going to the hearings. Whatever the reason he no longer attends lets hope it`s to send a message to the daughter who ignores him in court and calls him a sexual deviant.

OT for this thread but Grandfathers in the delivery room is a rare occurance. Grandparents present for a hospital birth are a rarity. Nobody would have allowed either GA ior CA in the delivery room without ICA`s permission which begs the question.....What allegedly sexually assualted woman, allows the assailant into the delivery room?

Well, I guess my husband is a very rare occurrence, he was in the delivery room with my daughter when she had her first child. In fact, we both were. She wanted us there. And no, her father has never been "inappropriate" with her. She just felt the most comfortable having us with her since her child's father was NOT allowed to be there. Personally, I think my daughter was grateful that her father wanted to be there, to show her how much he loved her and his granddaughter-to-be. Now, with the second baby, I was there, and he kept the oldest. But, if there would have been someone else we trusted to keep the oldest baby, he would have been right there beside her again. He was there within ten minutes of the second baby being born.

Sorry for the OT, I just don't think that grandfathers being in the delivery room are all that rare where I am from.

 

[pip]

I think Cindy is still the ringmaster and she is now trying to save the entire family, although the focus will remain on saving ICA. I believe GA and LA are with her on this. All for one, one for all! They are a fused unit. I think after the state finishes, the tables will once again turn when the defense presents their case and we will see the old Anthony clan remerge in defense of ICA. JMO. No one will crack.

 

[ZsaZsa]

I have been suspicious of what is about to happen since I saw CA come into court on the day she testified re the 911 calls. For someone who is usually very well groomed, who pays a lot of attention to her hair, I thought it was hinky that she showed up with very dirty hair and no make up that day. It was obvious that she wanted to play the wounded martyr but was that for ICA's benefit or for the Jury? I am still waiting for her to do something else to help ICA. She really had no choice but to listen to all the calls and admit what she said on depositions, but she is not done with her obstruction and interference yet. I don't trust her as far as I can throw her....

 

[Mohabi]

I think Cindy is still the ringmaster and she is now trying to save the entire family, although the focus will remain on saving ICA. I believe GA and LA are with her on this. All for one, one for all! They are a fused unit. I think after the state finishes, the tables will once again turn when the defense presents their case and we will see the old Anthony clan remerge in defense of ICA. JMO. No one will crack.

I agree that no one will crack, but I do not think that CA will ever forgive KC for causing Caylee's death. At some point you have to wash your hands off someone whose primary objective in life is to hurt others. Whether that person is your own offspring or not is besides the point. We all have heard the stories of animals caught in a trap, chewing off their own leg to gain their freedom. Casey is the entire family's trap, and - like a steel trap - she has no compassion and no feelings for those she hurts.

I can't even begin imagining CA's horror and pain that this "thing" named Casey is her daughter.

 

[Sleuth5]

I have been suspicious of what is about to happen since I saw CA come into court on the day she testified re the 911 calls. For someone who is usually very well groomed, who pays a lot of attention to her hair, I thought it was hinky that she showed up with very dirty hair and no make up that day. It was obvious that she wanted to play the wounded martyr but was that for ICA's benefit or for the Jury? I am still waiting for her to do something else to help ICA. She really had no choice but to listen to all the calls and admit what she said on depositions, but she is not done with her obstruction and interference yet. I don't trust her as far as I can throw her....

ITA on the martyr issue, ZsaZsa, at least as far as her own narcissism is concerned. IMO it was probably for all involved, though less for ICA than everyone else at this point. She will continue to try to defend her own image throughout -- that has always been her "focus" (I don't think I could stand to hear ICA talk about whose focus ought to be what even one more time).