The Argument that Ron and Misty had.

[passionflower]

then RC stops to get smokes,beer and peanuts to share with her after work???
Nothing makes sense anymore!

 

[Donjeta]

I'm wondering about this, too. If RC was only supposed to work til 12 and MC had her phone off, she wouldn't know he was working late. There hasn't been any mention of her questioning why he was so late.

This all sounds a little suspicious.

I thought that if there was a fight about babysitting, such as she didn't wanna do it, she could have thought that he was coming home at midnight and loped off leaving the kids home alone, thinking they won't come to any harm before daddy comes home. But he stays away late and Haleigh comes to some harm.

Only problem is, I don't see a reason for the marriage and the perfect mom accolades if he suspected Misty left the children alone or knew it. I think child neglect would usually cause anger rather than romance but that's just me, what do I know.

 

[Malesherbes]

IMO he has and his work hours have not changed. Ron will be held accountable to say the least when all of this is over, but, right now it is obvious that he did not Harm or hide HaLeigh that day or night and he was not the one who has been the key from the begining.

No, he is not cleared, I heard his lawyer say it last night-

 

[Crosby87]

I'm wondering about this, too. If RC was only supposed to work til 12 and MC had her phone off, she wouldn't know he was working late. There hasn't been any mention of her questioning why he was so late.

This all sounds a little suspicious.

Especially since Misty had recently been unfaithful to Ron, perhaps if Ron was late coming home from work, it might raise similar suspicions in Misty's mind. I can't understand how Misty could feel comfortable sleeping alone in the MH in such emotional turmoil. Ron has a string of ex-girlfriends, and I can't say I would trust Ron to do right by me if I was in Misty's shoes. Something doesn't add up. Statements from Tyler Avenue confirm the last time HaLeigh was seen in Ron's mobile home was 1 - 1/2 hours prior to the 911 call. Is it true Misty had an alarm set for 3:15 am, and if so, why? When Ron arrives home that night, he said he was surprised to see Misty up because she is usually sleeping at that time so I assume he meant Misty was normally asleep at 3:25 am when he arrived home from working the graveyard shift.

 

[texasmommy39]

Especially since Misty had recently been unfaithful to Ron, perhaps if Ron was late coming home from work, it might raise similar suspicions in Misty's mind. I can't understand how Misty could feel comfortable sleeping alone in the MH in such emotional turmoil. Ron has a string of ex-girlfriends, and I can't say I would trust Ron to do right by me if I was in Misty's shoes. Something doesn't add up. Statements from Tyler Avenue confirm the last time HaLeigh was seen in Ron's mobile home was 1 - 1/2 hours prior to the 911 call. Is it true Misty had an alarm set for 3:15 am, and if so, why? When Ron arrives home that night, he said he was surprised to see Misty up because she is usually sleeping at that time so I assume he meant Misty was normally asleep at 3:25 am when he arrived home from working the graveyard shift.

Would the time 1 1/2 hrs put the time around when the neighbor heard screaming?

 

[Crosby87]

I'm wondering about this, too. If RC was only supposed to work til 12 and MC had her phone off, she wouldn't know he was working late. There hasn't been any mention of her questioning why he was so late.

This all sounds a little suspicious.

Yes, this sounds highly suspicious and very much like a coverup. Misty had just returned to the trailor after being unfaithful to Ron with WBG and Misty and Ron were known to be fighting about this in front of the children the day HaLeigh disappeared. Misty blocked subsequent calls from Ronald after 8:30 pm on her call phone and in her version of the story, she peacefully went to sleep until she was awakened for some unknown reason minutes before her Prince arrived home. How could Misty possibly sleep while she was in in such deep turmoil? If Misty was expecting Ron home after midnight and he didn't arrive home for 3 hours, if I was in Misty's shoe I would be frantic worrying whether Ron was out seeking revenge against WBG.

 

[suspicious1]

Yes, this sounds highly suspicious and very much like a coverup. Misty had just returned to the trailor after being unfaithful to Ron with WBG and Misty and Ron were known to be fighting about this in front of the children the day HaLeigh disappeared. Misty blocked subsequent calls from Ronald after 8:30 pm on her call phone and in her version of the story, she peacefully went to sleep until she was awakened for some unknown reason minutes before her Prince arrived home. How could Misty possibly sleep while she was in in such deep turmoil? If Misty was expecting Ron home after midnight and he didn't arrive home for 3 hours, if I was in Misty's shoe I would be frantic worrying whether Ron was out seeking revenge against WBG.

This is why I believe that the conversation of him working late might have been what they argued about at 8:30. Did Ron call home to say that he was going to work late and Misty got pissed? Maybe she felt like if Ron was only suppose to work til midnight she would still have time to go out. When he called home talking about working late Misty wasn't trying to hear it.
I am just stating my opinion and I hope whatever happened to Haleigh come to light.

 

[Busylady]

I would think the documents that state RC was there until 3 along with other employees testimony and cell phone pings helps firm that all up.

WI plants close at midnight FYI -think this is partly where the confusion comes in.

I guess all that matters is what LE buys, not posters on message boards.

 

[Whisperer]

Are there documents stating that Rc worked 5:00 to 3:00am as his regular work hours? I am referencing documents that have not been driven by RC himself.

 

[Maven2379]

I guess all that matters is what LE buys, not posters on message boards.

IA and I think it's very important that Ron's attorney mentioned that he moved down on LE's list.

Kinda makes you wonder what they know that had him at the top of the list for so long. :waitasec:

 

[Maven2379]

Are there documents stating that Rc worked 5:00 to 3:00am as his regular work hours? I am referencing documents that have not been driven by RC himself.

I'm not sure, but according to his attorney he went in 45 mins early ....er.... wait he went in 30 mins early, and he worked over time, was supposed to leave at 12, but stayed till 3.

 

[DotsEyes]

OMG! Are we on RC's work hours again?

LE says they are satisfied with RC being at work during the time in question, which we have all assumed means the window of time between 8pm and 3am. Because they do not know what crime occurred, or when, they can't rule anyone out. (think about it - this means a planned abduction by family or accessory after the fact - when did the crime begin and end?)

T. Shoemaker gives the hours worked on TV to be 5pm-3am. No one makes such a statement without being able to back it up. He didn't use any waffling words.

There are records to prove/disprove RC's work hours. LE has seen them. I suggest Shoemaker has too and that is why he was able to boldly announce RC's work hours.

Too many people want to think that RC never went to work and had someone punch in for him (however it is done) or left work long before 3am without punching out, killed his beloved heart, disposed of her body, went back to work, clocked out, stopped at the quickie mart and then went home and staged a 911 call.

Where is the guy who punched his timecard? Doesn't exist. If he did, he would have told and RC would not be at the bottom of the list. Really, does anyone think that RC has such good friends that they will hide this tidbit in a missing child case? No.

Did anyone "miss" RC for a few hours that night or were they unable to find him all night - like a supervisor, a co-worker? No. How do we know? See above about people telling what they know and the bottom of the list. Do you really think a co-worker wouldn't tell if he noticed that RC was MIA during that night?

How does he drive in and out of the yard without getting seen by security? I am not one to invent a second entrance/exit to the plant that doesn't have security at night to make this work. If they have security at the front gate, what do we have to believe?That security conscious PDM is has an open road at the other side, in the dark, with no security. Does this make good sense to anyone?

The hours are done. Stick a fork in it already - please.

 

[DotsEyes]

I'm not sure, but according to his attorney he went in 45 mins early ....er.... wait he went in 30 mins early, and he worked over time, was supposed to leave at 12, but stayed till 3.

Wrong. The attorney said that RC usually gets to work 30-45 mintues early and that he got there on that night 30 minutes early. Let's not twist it up, or belabor the issue. Okay?

 

[Maven2379]

OMG! Are we on RC's work hours again?

LE says they are satisfied with RC being at work during the time in question, which we have all assumed means the window of time between 8pm and 3am. Because they do not know what crime occurred, or when, they can't rule anyone out. (think about it - this means a planned abduction by family or accessory after the fact - when did the crime begin and end?)

T. Shoemaker gives the hours worked on TV to be 5pm-3am. No one makes such a statement without being able to back it up. He didn't use any waffling words.

There are records to prove/disprove RC's work hours. LE has seen them. I suggest Shoemaker has too and that is why he was able to boldly announce RC's work hours.

Too many people want to think that RC never went to work and had someone punch in for him (however it is done) or left work long before 3am without punching out, killed his beloved heart, disposed of her body, went back to work, clocked out, stopped at the quickie mart and then went home and staged a 911 call.

Where is the guy who punched his timecard? Doesn't exist. If he did, he would have told and RC would not be at the bottom of the list. Really, does anyone think that RC has such good friends that they will hide this tidbit in a missing child case? No.

Did anyone "miss" RC for a few hours that night or were they unable to find him all night - like a supervisor, a co-worker? No. How do we know? See above about people telling what they know and the bottom of the list. Do you really think a co-worker wouldn't tell if he noticed that RC was MIA during that night?

How does he drive in and out of the yard without getting seen by security? I am not one to invent a second entrance/exit to the plant that doesn't have security at night to make this work. If they have security at the front gate, what do we have to believe?That security conscious PDM is has an open road at the other side, in the dark, with no security. Does this make good sense to anyone?

The hours are done. Stick a fork in it already - please.

If LE was so satisfied with his work hours and they were so solid..... I don't think he would have ever been at the top of the list ......yet he was.

 

[Maven2379]

Wrong. The attorney said that RC usually gets to work 30-45 mintues early and that he got there on that night 30 minutes early. Let's not twist it up, or belabor the issue. Okay?

and everyone knows a defense attorney would NEVER stretch the truth to make their client look better. Okay?

 

[Muffet]

OMG! Are we on RC's work hours again?

LE says they are satisfied with RC being at work during the time in question, which we have all assumed means the window of time between 8pm and 3am. Because they do not know what crime occurred, or when, they can't rule anyone out. (think about it - this means a planned abduction by family or accessory after the fact - when did the crime begin and end?)

T. Shoemaker gives the hours worked on TV to be 5pm-3am. No one makes such a statement without being able to back it up. He didn't use any waffling words.

There are records to prove/disprove RC's work hours. LE has seen them. I suggest Shoemaker has too and that is why he was able to boldly announce RC's work hours.

Too many people want to think that RC never went to work and had someone punch in for him (however it is done) or left work long before 3am without punching out, killed his beloved heart, disposed of her body, went back to work, clocked out, stopped at the quickie mart and then went home and staged a 911 call.

Where is the guy who punched his timecard? Doesn't exist. If he did, he would have told and RC would not be at the bottom of the list. Really, does anyone think that RC has such good friends that they will hide this tidbit in a missing child case? No.

Did anyone "miss" RC for a few hours that night or were they unable to find him all night - like a supervisor, a co-worker? No. How do we know? See above about people telling what they know and the bottom of the list. Do you really think a co-worker wouldn't tell if he noticed that RC was MIA during that night?

How does he drive in and out of the yard without getting seen by security? I am not one to invent a second entrance/exit to the plant that doesn't have security at night to make this work. If they have security at the front gate, what do we have to believe?That security conscious PDM is has an open road at the other side, in the dark, with no security. Does this make good sense to anyone?

The hours are done. Stick a fork in it already - please.

Dotseyes, Ron's lawyer also said in the same statement that one reason LE hasn't taken Ron off their suspect list is that "they were "not with him" through those hours."

For his own lawyer to make that statement is a clear indication to me that LE has at least some reservations about conceding to his alibi.

For the record, my personal theory is that he was at work, but remains culpable as you said, as an accessory to plotting the cover-up. But I don't think there is sufficient evidence for anyone to insist that people concede that LE has established his whereabouts (or cleared him, as the claim was last week). His own lawyer has proven both of those to be untrue.

 

[Muffet]

I'm not sure, but according to his attorney he went in 45 mins early ....er.... wait he went in 30 mins early, and he worked over time, was supposed to leave at 12, but stayed till 3.

Yes, that is what he said. The first night, Shoemaker said Ron usually went in 30-45 minutes early, and the second night, he said Ron got there 30 minutes early that specific night.

 

[Muffet]

Are there documents stating that Rc worked 5:00 to 3:00am as his regular work hours? I am referencing documents that have not been driven by RC himself.

Well, I read tonight that his lawyer said PDM had the shift stay 3 hours late that night because they had something that needed finished. So it sounds like those were actually not his usual hours.

 

[DotsEyes]

Dotseyes, Ron's lawyer also said in the same statement that one reason LE hasn't taken Ron off their suspect list is that "they were "not with him" through those hours."

For his own lawyer to make that statement is a clear indication to me that LE has at least some reservations about conceding to his alibi.

For the record, my personal theory is that he was at work, but remains culpable as you said, as an accessory to plotting the cover-up. But I don't think there is sufficient evidence for anyone to insist that people concede that LE has established his whereabouts (or cleared him, as the claim was last week). His own lawyer has proven both of those to be untrue.

Wrong interpretation of the attorney's statement. LE can not rule him out 100% because they weren't with him all night, but they are satisified that with what they know and have uncovered, he was at work between 8pm-3am. In my world this means he is 99% cleared and therefore has moved to the bottom of the list, however short or long it may be. (some have suggested that 2d out of 2 isn't that much of a commendation, but I think LE has a few above RC) 100% would require RC to have been in jail that night or in the personal company of LE between 8p-3a.

 

[DotsEyes]

If LE was so satisfied with his work hours and they were so solid..... I don't think he would have ever been at the top of the list ......yet he was.

Stop it. Parents are always at the top of the list. Stop it.