The A's..In Denial or Covering Up the Crime?

[Samijeansg]

Cover-up... I decided that at the very first bond hearing.

I will never forget the look in Cindy's eyes when she looked at Casey and said "There is no evidence."

I forgot about that and you are so right! There was no evidence because they got rid of it, and that was her way of telling Casey they had cleaned up her mess, pants, car, etc! ggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :furious:

 

[chesterp]

I forgot about that and you are so right! There was no evidence because they got rid of it, and that was her way of telling Casey they had cleaned up her mess, pants, car, etc! ggggggrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :furious:

And GA gave KC the thumb's up.........and KC smiled at him.

 

[cheko1]

Cover-up... I decided that at the very first bond hearing.

I will never forget the look in Cindy's eyes when she looked at Casey and said "There is no evidence."

Yes without a doubt in my mind......Cindy's eyes let Casey know all evidence was GONE! Between mommy & daddy they got rid of it all.

 

[cheko1]

And GA gave KC the thumb's up.........and KC smiled at him.

With GA being in homicide he knew how to get rid of all evidence. Plus he is playing Mr Nice Guy to make it look like he was co-operating with LE so they'd say GA is the only one working with LE! He is guilty & knows it.

 

[MOMto5]

*snipped*
Sometime within the first 24 - 48 hours after that third 911 call was made, Cindy realized what had happened to Caylee, and went into coverup mode. I think George already knew. He knew from the moment he first smelled the odor in that car.

I completely agree.

 

[Gummishoe]

I don't think they know all of the truth but Cindy is most likely to be covering up much more than others do know.
I think the rest are like Lemmings....

 

[whiteangora]

Do you mean undecided?
LOL
To me, there is a line that is crossed between the two.
JMO

I replied to this last night but lost my connection before it went through.
The reason I said that is because, if we were talking about any other family........
I would have picked just one answer. The Anthonys are a case study of contradictions, everything they say and do is backwards. I think they know Caylee is dead but they will not allow themselves to accept it, they seem to think if they keep insisting she's alive it might come true.
Cindy washed the clothes from the car knowing she was destroying evidence but she ended up blaming it on the police, she had to convince herself she did nothing wrong.
Everything C&G say and do is to rationalize a previous act or statement.
I hope someone can understand what I'm trying to say here.

 

[Gummishoe]

I think CA knows what KC is capable of doing,in her heart of hearts I think CA has always feared KC in some sort of a strange way.She knows, she will not admit it, KC is an extension of her ego and being so self centered this would make her look like she failed as a mother as well as a grandmother. Was it on impulse that she washed those pants in the car or did she have a gut feeling about KC?

KC is this you Pacing back and forth?

 

[gardenhart]

I replied to this last night but lost my connection before it went through.
The reason I said that is because, if we were talking about any other family........
I would have picked just one answer. The Anthonys are a case study of contradictions, everything they say and do is backwards. I think they know Caylee is dead but they will not allow themselves to accept it, they seem to think if they keep insisting she's alive it might come true.
Cindy washed the clothes from the car knowing she was destroying evidence but she ended up blaming it on the police, she had to convince herself she did nothing wrong.
Everything C&G say and do is to rationalize a previous act or statement.
I hope someone can understand what I'm trying to say here.

I understand exactly what you're saying about shifting blame. Guess we know where Casey got the habit of not accepting responsibility, don't we?

I think ragaholics do this a lot - refuse to accept blame for the things they do impulsively or in anger or just because they think they're entitled to do as they please.

 

[twomanywords]

Wouldn't it be interesting if the whole family ended up in jail....Tell it to the warden Cindy.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

cover-up. if they were in denial they would actively be searching for Caylee. Even if they didn't trust LE, they'd want Tim and TES or someone to help find Caylee. That trunk was cleaned by someone that knew what he was doing.

 

[Meagain]

Even from the get-go.... The stolen gas cans. That alone was a coverup. They knew darned well who stole them on the 24th of June.

 

[Jolynna]

ITA! The A family has a common goal today, to claim Caylee is alive and out there to save KC. Even if KC were to beat the rap due to a technicality or well-intended juror the A family is doomed.

LA may already be the first victim, GA will soon follow. Once the dust settles and there is no more cause, no more fighting, CA will crumble and become a shadow of her former glory. KC is toast whether she spends her life in jail or at home.

There is now a malignant cancer in the family caused by the loss of Caylee that they will never heal, they will never be able to sit down, discuss, bond, be the same as a family unit. The same way it eats at OJ for what he did and his life has never been the same, he felt compelled to write, 'If I Did It' -- the same will befall the A's.

You cannot ignore this and move on. It will eat at them all and affect them all in different ways... they may win some battles but the war is already lost.

I so agree.

They can't ever go back and undo. I think somewhere in their brains they think some of their family will be salvaged by saving Casey. And for now it is giving them a united cause.Plus they can take their anger toward Casey out on the media, public and prosecutors.

I definitely believe they are protecting Casey. But, I think it is maybe out of instinct.

They've suffered a huge loss and they are circling the wagons to protect what is left.

I don't think they believe Casey's stories. The A's didn't believe Casey or protect Casey when they thought there was a chance of Caylee being alive. They called LE.

 

[lizzysf]

Even from the get-go.... The stolen gas cans. That alone was a coverup. They knew darned well who stole them on the 24th of June.

Good point...my hinky meter has always gone off regarding the stolen gas cans and the police report. I somehow think it ties in to the scheme George was already cooking when he discovered Caylee's body in the trunk that day (which is my other suspicion).. Did they (GA and Casey) re-bury the body together that day? Did he use the gas to clean the trunk that day? And then report the gas cans stolen so he would not be connected to gasoline being found in the trunk? The gasoline fumes discussed in the FBI report could be from then, and then of course re-cleaned by George again on the night he got the car back from impound because it still smelled. They probably plotted to leave the car somewhere after a few days so they could say it was stolen and SOMEONE ELSE put a body in it. (just like they are saying now)

 

[debs]

I so agree.

They can't ever go back and undo. I think somewhere in their brains they think some of their family will be salvaged by saving Casey. And for now it is giving them a united cause.Plus they can take their anger toward Casey out on the media, public and prosecutors.

I definitely believe they are protecting Casey. But, I think it is maybe out of instinct.

They've suffered a huge loss and they are circling the wagons to protect what is left.

I don't think they believe Casey's stories. The A's didn't believe Casey or protect Casey when they thought there was a chance of Caylee being alive. They called LE.

I doubt very much that Cindy's actions involve anything close to protecting Casey. I believe they have everything to do with making certain that HER image is protected at any cost. As she continues to act out and say outrageous things, the result of the trial will have one of 2 outcomes: Casey is innocent (Cindy is vindicated and Casey will be back into the family fold, held forever to Cindy's making sure Casey knows she owes her. Further, Casey's attempt to escape Cindy's clutches will have been thwarted and Cindy wins.) Casey is found guilty (Cindy is left being a victim of the system who just wouldn't listen to her about how her daughter was innocent and everything that LE presented was a lie meant to slander her and her family. HER. Cindy as victim is a role she "absolutely from day one" has loved.

Cindy doesn't lose either way. It was never about Caylee. Don't we all agree that Cindy has made this more about HER than Caylee? How she is suffering. How she can't eat, sleep, etc. How HER life has been disrupted. I find it quite telling that Casey refuses her visits.

 

[lizzysf]

I doubt very much that Cindy's actions involve anything close to protecting Casey. I believe they have everything to do with making certain that HER image is protected at any cost. As she continues to act out and say outrageous things, the result of the trial will have one of 2 outcomes: Casey is innocent (Cindy is vindicated and Casey will be back into the family fold, held forever to Cindy's making sure Casey knows she owes her. Further, Casey's attempt to escape Cindy's clutches will have been thwarted and Cindy wins.) Casey is found guilty (Cindy is left being a victim of the system who just wouldn't listen to her about how her daughter was innocent and everything that LE presented was a lie meant to slander her and her family. HER. Cindy as victim is a role she "absolutely from day one" has loved.

Cindy doesn't lose either way. It was never about Caylee. Don't we all agree that Cindy has made this more about HER than Caylee? How she is suffering. How she can't eat, sleep, etc. How HER life has been disrupted. I find it quite telling that Casey refuses her visits.

Debs, I just love your posts! So insightful.:clap::clap:

 

[Jolynna]

I doubt very much that Cindy's actions involve anything close to protecting Casey. I believe they have everything to do with making certain that HER image is protected at any cost. As she continues to act out and say outrageous things, the result of the trial will have one of 2 outcomes: Casey is innocent (Cindy is vindicated and Casey will be back into the family fold, held forever to Cindy's making sure Casey knows she owes her. Further, Casey's attempt to escape Cindy's clutches will have been thwarted and Cindy wins.) Casey is found guilty (Cindy is left being a victim of the system who just wouldn't listen to her about how her daughter was innocent and everything that LE presented was a lie meant to slander her and her family. HER. Cindy as victim is a role she "absolutely from day one" has loved.

Cindy doesn't lose either way. It was never about Caylee. Don't we all agree that Cindy has made this more about HER than Caylee? How she is suffering. How she can't eat, sleep, etc. How HER life has been disrupted. I find it quite telling that Casey refuses her visits.

I think when Cindy called 911 she was trying to save Caylee. To me, she sounded afraid for her and wanted her found.

 

[lizzysf]

I think when Cindy called 911 she was trying to save Caylee. To me, she sounded afraid for her and wanted her found.

I agree. But reality of the situation fell into play pretty quickly and she shifted gears, putting her grieving on the back burner to save Casey when she knew Caylee was dead. All out of deep-seated guilt, control issues and to save her own narcissitic self. If Casey is a failure..(or a murderer) fingers would be pointed at Cindy as a failure.

 

[shotzie]

Good point...my hinky meter has always gone off regarding the stolen gas cans and the police report. I somehow think it ties in to the scheme George was already cooking when he discovered Caylee's body in the trunk that day (which is my other suspicion).. Did they (GA and Casey) re-bury the body together that day? Did he use the gas to clean the trunk that day? And then report the gas cans stolen so he would not be connected to gasoline being found in the trunk? The gasoline fumes discussed in the FBI report could be from then, and then of course re-cleaned by George again on the night he got the car back from impound because it still smelled. They probably plotted to leave the car somewhere after a few days so they could say it was stolen and SOMEONE ELSE put a body in it. (just like they are saying now)

This is great theory and makes alot of sense..They aren't in Denial they are in COVER UP

They know exactly what happened and all their blabbing on & on now is to help Casey trying to throw out reasonable doubt..Yeh sure:boohoo:

but also hoping to keep the donations coming in.
Gee they can't get donation if they admit Caylee is DEAD...more BS> so they can spend it on traveling expenses to all these places they are looking for CAYLEE..
I hope they are charged with obstructing justice and they get time..otherwise it sends a message to future murders family..just spread BS and you don't get any punishment..:woohoo:

 

[impatientredhead]

I think they were in denial early on and were not intentionally destroying evidence or attempting to protect Casey. I think Cindy's first two 911 calls were attempts to get control over Casey, a long time power struggle with those two. The third call is pure raw emotion and fear, and a moment of honesty as she partially processes that that really is the smell of death in the car.

I *know* he was a cop and she is a nurse and they recogonize the smell on a logical level, but I do honestly believe they couldn't/wouldn't accept it at that point. Keep in mind the tow yard owner recogonized the smell, compared it to the suicide victim, yet pulled the garbage bag out and tossed it as a possible explanation, let the vehicle leave the yard, didn't call the police despite the owner of said vehicle saying they had a family drama ongoing and hadn't seen their granddaughter. It didn't completely click for him until he saw the news in the morning and then went dumpster hopping trying to retrieve the evidence. The police did not impound the car immediately. They left witnesses in the garage with it smelling like that while it they questioned other witnesses. George and Cindy are not the only ones that did not instantly treat that car as a crime scene.

I do think they are now not cooperating with investigators, and are not willingly going to help execute Casey. Not sure I believe that is for Casey, and not for their own benefit/guilt/perception. Crazy didn't spontaneously combust in this family the evening of July 15th. But I don't think George knew Caylee was dead on the 24th, I don't believe he saw the body, I don't think they brought the car home decided to knowingly clean a crime scene and then call the police with no logicial story in place, with evidence still in place (why would you give the police a car that smells like a body if you are covering for Casey? why call the police? why tell them she is a liar and you think she is withholding info?).

I do think Cindy would knowingly destroy evidence now, after the fact. If she had the opportunity to do things differently I think she wouldn't have told Casey to get out of the house, and I think she would not have called 911 when she did.