The Best Untainted Evidence-The Ransom Letter

[robotdog]

Honey..you and me both!

LOL and its very difficult for robots to puke and some dogs are not to good at it either :crazy:

 

[Linda7NJ]

I've never been that interested in trying to figure out what particular words were intended to mean, or if the style was feminine or masculine. I've always analyzed the note in the larger context -

1. We have a body, and a RN. That shouldn't be. Even the dumbest kidnappers know the ransom won't be paid if the body is found.

So, either there was never really any kidnapping plan, or it "went bad" as so many people say. But even a dead body can be taken away, and it can be worth lots of money so long as the parents don't know she's dead. But the body isn't taken away.

It's difficult to argue that a kidnapper didn't have the opportunity to take her out of the house - because neighbors lights were on, or someone was driving/walking by. After all, the "intruder" got out, and away from the neighborhood undetected.

To me it's not credible that a paedophile/kidnapper just couldn't control his urges long enough to get her out of the house because -
-dead body's can still be taken and held for ransom, if that was part of the plan, and
-the Paedo could have had hours or days of perverted activity with the girl as his captive.

Just for the reasons mentioned, I don't think the RN was "real" in the sense that there was ever an actual kidnapping plan.

2. Small Foreign Factions, be they AQ, IRA, SLA, etc. don't kidnap 6 year old girls and hold them for the whopping sum of $118k.

3. The amount - $118K- is too small. Kidnappers who knew that much about the family would have demanded much more.

Even if you want to believe a kidnapper would be satisfied with 118K, the amount is too close to Jr's bonus. If it was an actual kidnapper who wrote the RN, he'd be pointing police in his direction. How many people knew the amount of Jr's bonus? Why would a kidnapper get police on his own trail?

I think it's more probable that the amount was 118K because it would get police looking at those who had reason to know of Jr's bonus. An attempt to lead police away from the Ramseys.

4. The note seems to set up a meeting for delivery of the ransom. It talks of using electronics countermeasures (I'm paraphrasing) to detect radio transmitters/bugs, that type of thing. It's more likely the instructions would something like, drive to such and such place, put the money under the rock, drive away.

5. People rarely kill someone's child for revenge. This isn't the Sopranos. JR wasn't a mafia Don. Even if someone felt they'd been screwed in a business deal, doing all this just to "get back" at the Ramseys is way way over the top. I don't buy it at all.

IMO, the note is pure staging.

:blowkiss: agree wholeheartedly!

 

[Ames]

its called PUTTING a band aid on gushing wound

instead of teaching them how to NOT PLAY with the alarm system
just disable it - thats easier


or instead of spending time teaching them about going to the bathroom before bed time and learning how to wipe...
we just put diapers on them until they are 6-7 years old
MAYBE patsy wanted them to be astronauts --i dont know


i have never heard of it taking that long........

that house sounds like s stressful place to live

LOL..that's funny!

But, even if they had of had to disable it when JB was younger...she was six...old enough to know better not to touch it. It could have been re-connected. How convenient that the alarm system was off that night. Now HOW would an intruder have known that?

 

[Rino]

LOL..that's funny!

But, even if they had of had to disable it when JB was younger...she was six...old enough to know better not to touch it. It could have been re-connected. How convenient that the alarm system was off that night. Now HOW would an intruder have known that?

Poor guy, imagine his embarassment when after all the trouble of breaking in he finds the alarm disarmed :bang:

 

[LI_Mom]

Poor guy, imagine his embarassment when after all the trouble of breaking in he finds the alarm disarmed :bang:

And the yappy little guard dog gone.

How lucky can a small foreign faction get? lol

 

[robotdog]

LOL..that's funny!

But, even if they had of had to disable it when JB was younger...she was six...old enough to know better not to touch it. It could have been re-connected. How convenient that the alarm system was off that night. Now HOW would an intruder have known that?

the magic intruder.....quiet as a mouse and leaves no trail but brings no supplies of HER own :crazy:

 

[Ames]

<<SNIPPED>>
IMO, the note is pure staging.

The Boulder Police and the FBI agree with you....along with alot of other people.

 

[Ames]

Poor guy, imagine his embarassment when after all the trouble of breaking in he finds the alarm disarmed :bang:

I KNOW...heck, he could have just gone through the front door. It was locked...but, I am sure that an experienced intruder wouldn't let that stop him. That would have been SOO much easier than crawling through that tiny, tiny window. You know...the one that he had to move the grate to get to...the one with the intact spider web, that was found the next day. Yep, a door would have been alot easier.

 

[Toltec]

There is a new book out by Joyce Carol Oates titled "My Sister, my Love". It is somewhat based on the death of JonBenet Ramsey.

It is about a six-year-old girl named Bliss Rampike, who is an ice-skating phenom. She wins Little Miss titles and has a jealous 9-year-old brother Skylar.

The father's name is Bix, the mother's Betsy Rampike....LOL! Anyhoo the child is murdered...and there was a line I found interesting....had to do with the ransom note.

Betsy Rampike was writing with her entire hand around the pen....could this be how Patsy wrote the note too?

 

[angelwngs]

Maybe Patsy threatened to kill him if he opened the door BEFORE she gave the ok? Big sale at Pottery Barn? lol

:clap:, LI_Mom! Well, some folks say she'd done it once, what would stop her from doing it again?

What I found interesting about where PR was publically reported to have been during the 2nd Ramsey 'home invasion' was to a "Bible Study" with friends. Less publically, it was said that she was actually having lunch with friends.

I guess it could have been a "Bible Study" lunch... but then that sorta reminds me of the new Laughing Cow Cheese commercial with the girl saying she joined a Book Club, and who was she to think that everyone was suppose to actually read the book and discuss it?

Yeah, right..."A Bible Study Group". My momma always told me that I'd burn in He!! real quick if I told lies about the Bible...

Oh yeah, so do the ones who break that commandment..."Thou Shalt Not Kill"... so I guess burnt toast is burnt toast.

IMHO

 

[LI_Mom]

:clap:, LI_Mom! Well, some folks say she'd done it once, what would stop her from doing it again?

What I found interesting about where PR was publically reported to have been during the 2nd Ramsey 'home invasion' was to a "Bible Study" with friends. Less publically, it was said that she was actually having lunch with friends.

I guess it could have been a "Bible Study" lunch... but then that sorta reminds me of the new Laughing Cow Cheese commercial with the girl saying she joined a Book Club, and who was she to think that everyone was suppose to actually read the book and discuss it?

Yeah, right..."A Bible Study Group". My momma always told me that I'd burn in He!! real quick if I told lies about the Bible...

Oh yeah, so do the ones who break that commandment..."Thou Shalt Not Kill"... so I guess burnt toast is burnt toast.

IMHO

Wasn't there also some problem at their house in Michigan???? I don't remember the timeline of all these alleged encounters though.

I wonder if John believes in alarm systems YET? lol

 

[angelwngs]

There is a new book out by Joyce Carol Oates titled "My Sister, my Love". It is somewhat based on the death of JonBenet Ramsey.

It is about a six-year-old girl named Bliss Rampike, who is an ice-skating phenom. She wins Little Miss titles and has a jealous 9-year-old brother Skylar.

The father's name is Bix, the mother's Betsy Rampike....LOL! Anyhoo the child is murdered...and there was a line I found interesting....had to do with the ransom note.

Betsy Rampike was writing with her entire hand around the pen....could this be how Patsy wrote the note too?[/quote]

Yep, it sure could be how the note was written... Sure wish we knew.

 

[LI_Mom]

There is a new book out by Joyce Carol Oates titled "My Sister, my Love". It is somewhat based on the death of JonBenet Ramsey.

It is about a six-year-old girl named Bliss Rampike, who is an ice-skating phenom. She wins Little Miss titles and has a jealous 9-year-old brother Skylar.

The father's name is Bix, the mother's Betsy Rampike....LOL! Anyhoo the child is murdered...and there was a line I found interesting....had to do with the ransom note.

Betsy Rampike was writing with her entire hand around the pen....could this be how Patsy wrote the note too?

Has John sued yet? Someone call Lin Wood & get him on the case. ha

 

[caramia311]

robot,there were no prints on the note,so it seems Patsy wore gloves to write it,which is where the ink would be,not on her.

That's weird. I never knew that. If Patsy read the note when she came down the stairs and held it while calling 911, wouldn't her fingers have been on the note? Maybe she put gloves on and had not yet taken them off?

 

[caramia311]

I know...I posted on this a long time ago. That has always bothered me too. Fleet yells..."We found her! Call an ambulance". And she just sits her fanny there on the couch....not even budging. If that had of been me...(GOD FORBID) I would have thought..."he said call an ambulance, she must be hurt..I need to go to her, she needs me!!!!" And then I would proceed to knock everybody and everything out of my way to get to her. NO..Patsy KNEW...SHE KNEW....that JB was dead.

I think that she may have actually been in shock and afraid. Fleet says call an ambulance. Her immediate thought may have been panic that JBR was alive (and able to talk upon recovery).

 

[angelwngs]

Wasn't there also some problem at their house in Michigan???? I don't remember the timeline of all these alleged encounters though.

I wonder if John believes in alarm systems YET? lol

Not that I have ever heard or read, but that doesn't mean it couldn't have happened in Michigan as well.

 

[Ames]

That's weird. I never knew that. If Patsy read the note when she came down the stairs and held it while calling 911, wouldn't her fingers have been on the note? Maybe she put gloves on and had not yet taken them off?

If John or Patsy had of actually touched that RN...with their bare hands...which they would have done if it had of been a REAL RN..their prints would have been on it. Its pretty obvious to me that Patsy wrote the note, while wearing gloves (the medicine supply drawer was opened in one of the bathrooms...and it had syringes, according to Patsy's interview...and my guess would be rubber gloves, that she used during her cancer)...laid the note on the stairs and never picked it up again. John says that he read it while on his knees (for whatever weird reason)...while it was on the floor, after it had been moved. But, I don't buy that...why would he need to read it, he already knew what it said.

 

[Ames]

I think that she may have actually been in shock and afraid. Fleet says call an ambulance. Her immediate thought may have been panic that JBR was alive (and able to talk upon recovery).

Good thought...I would have been in shock and afraid if I had of been her...and thought that too.

 

[robotdog]

amazing but i never remember reading that the ramseys ever checked the garage.....i dont know but that is one of the first places i would check


im not sure why i woudl that but i would

:behindbar

 

[robotdog]

If John or Patsy had of actually touched that RN...with their bare hands...which they would have done if it had of been a REAL RN..their prints would have been on it. Its pretty obvious to me that Patsy wrote the note, while wearing gloves (the medicine supply drawer was opened in one of the bathrooms...and it had syringes, according to Patsy's interview...and my guess would be rubber gloves, that she used during her cancer)...laid the note on the stairs and never picked it up again. John says that he read it while on his knees (for whatever weird reason)...while it was on the floor, after it had been moved. But, I don't buy that...why would he need to read it, he already knew what it said.

kind of like when i got my report card in school :crazy:

no need to even open it

it wasnt good - no new news here :crazy: