The Best Untainted Evidence-The Ransom Letter

[robotdog]

nooooooo, this isnt suspicious

3 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Mrs. Ramsey, your
4 son Burke, when he was attending grammar
5 school in Boulder, there was a weekly sort
6 of report that was sent by the teacher to
7 the parents. Do you recall that?
8 A. Vaguely.
9 Q. And you were, as a parent, given
10 the opportunity or asked to provide some
11 input or response to teacher's little report
12 that was sent out once a week. Do you
13 remember doing that? The Friday folder I
14 think is what --
15 A. Oh, Friday folder, yeah, I
16 remember the Friday folder.
17 Q. Okay. Up until the murder of
18 your daughter, your, as a parent, your
19 response in the Friday folder was always
20 handwritten. Following the death of your
21 daughter, your responses were always typed.
22 Can you explain why you changed that?
23 A. I didn't -- I wasn't aware that
24 they were typed.
25 MR. WOOD: Do you have any that
0206
1 you can let her look at?
2 THE WITNESS: Do you have any of
3 those?
4 MR. LEVIN: I don't think we have
5 any in the computer.
6 MR. KANE: Not in the computer.
7 MR. LEVIN: No, no, we don't have
8 those.
9 MR. WOOD: Are you representing
10 that every one afterwards was in fact typed?
11 MR. KANE: That is what Burke's
12 teacher has told us.

 

[LI_Mom]

I bet Patsy was told by her lawyers to do as little writing as possible to cut down on the handwriting samples floating around.


Or maybe the small foreign faction contacted Burke's teacher & told her to lie about the type written notes.... OR ELSE they've stuff her with pineapple & behead her & stuff.

 

[robotdog]

I bet Patsy was told by her lawyers to do as little writing as possible to cut down on the handwriting samples floating around.


Or maybe the small foreign faction contacted Burke's teacher & told her to lie about the type written notes.... OR ELSE they've stuff her with pineapple & behead her & stuff.

exactly, an innocent person would NOT go around changing the way the have always done things

such a load of bullcrap

how anyone can not see this, is beyond me

 

[LI_Mom]

exactly, an innocent person would NOT go around changing the way the have always done things

such a load of bullcrap

how anyone can not see this, is beyond me

And shockingly.... Patsy doesn't even RECALL changing the way she wrote. lol

Patsy's non-answers to what should be simple facts couldn't be less useful if she just cut to the chase & pled the 5th. At least, then we wouldn't have to pretend she was cooperating or interested in getting this crime solved.

 

[robotdog]

And shockingly.... Patsy doesn't even RECALL changing the way she wrote. lol

Patsy's non-answers to what should be simple facts couldn't be less useful if she just cut to the chase & pled the 5th. At least, then we wouldn't have to pretend she was cooperating or interested in getting this crime solved.

i know, she doesnt even recall. HAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA

how can anyone ever not remember so many things ??

trying to make sure that there are NO written pieces of paper ever again
just in case she might screw up and write something that can be compared to the PHONY RAMSON LETTER

how clever - NOT

 

[azwriter]

This line always made me wonder....


this small foreign factions RESPECTS John's business but NOT the USA....

ok, so why kidnap HIS kid?

JB is such a well known American icon that this will punish the COUNTRY????

Why wouldn't they target someone connected to the government they don't respect but pick on someone they DO respect????


MAKES NO SENSE! It's totally illogical. Even by small foreign faction standards.

I may have an idea for the confusion on respecting John's business but not the country.
Certainly, if John was co-author of the letter, he would not want to bash his own business. His own ego and finances couldn't take that. But he must have felt he needed something to justify including the identification of a "foreign faction" within this ransom letter. He needed to tie the idea of a outside group doing this to him but at the sametime not hurt his business.
This letter is full of confusing information - but that's because it's further proof this was a letter written to cover-up a crime, not to notify the parents or LE of a kidnapping. JMO

 

[robotdog]

when they had patsy do samples of writing did they have her use the sharpie pen ??

 

[LI_Mom]

I may have an idea for the confusion on respecting John's business but not the country.
Certainly, if John was co-author of the letter, he would not want to bash his own business. His own ego and finances couldn't take that. But he must have felt he needed something to justify including the identification of a "foreign faction" within this ransom letter. He needed to tie the idea of a outside group doing this to him but at the sametime not hurt his business.
This letter is full of confusing information - but that's because it's further proof this was a letter written to cover-up a crime, not to notify the parents or LE of a kidnapping. JMO

That's it in a nutshell.... the ransom note makes 'sense' IF it's written by the Ramseys.


It's beyond absurd if it's written by anyone else. If it's written by an intruder why not come right out & be blunt....

John, I hate your freakin' guts & the proof is in your basement. Enjoy my handiwork.

 

[LI_Mom]

when they had patsy do samples of writing did they have her use the sharpie pen ??

Yes, I'm almost certain they did.

 

[Ames]

nooooooo, this isnt suspicious

3 Q. (By Mr. Levin) Mrs. Ramsey, your
4 son Burke, when he was attending grammar
5 school in Boulder, there was a weekly sort
6 of report that was sent by the teacher to
7 the parents. Do you recall that?
8 A. Vaguely.
9 Q. And you were, as a parent, given
10 the opportunity or asked to provide some
11 input or response to teacher's little report
12 that was sent out once a week. Do you
13 remember doing that? The Friday folder I
14 think is what --
15 A. Oh, Friday folder, yeah, I
16 remember the Friday folder.
17 Q. Okay. Up until the murder of
18 your daughter, your, as a parent, your
19 response in the Friday folder was always
20 handwritten. Following the death of your
21 daughter, your responses were always typed.
22 Can you explain why you changed that?
23 A. I didn't -- I wasn't aware that
24 they were typed.
25 MR. WOOD: Do you have any that
0206
1 you can let her look at?
2 THE WITNESS: Do you have any of
3 those?
4 MR. LEVIN: I don't think we have
5 any in the computer.
6 MR. KANE: Not in the computer.
7 MR. LEVIN: No, no, we don't have
8 those.
9 MR. WOOD: Are you representing
10 that every one afterwards was in fact typed?
11 MR. KANE: That is what Burke's
12 teacher has told us.

I KNOW! And she wasn't "aware that they were typed".....YEAH RIGHT! She typed them, but she wasn't aware that they were typed. Yep, looks just a "tad" bit suspicious to me. She wanted the investigators to have as little of handwriting samples of hers as possible. She was afraid that they might use Burke's Fridays folder comments by her...to compare with the ransom note. Why would she switch to typing them, if she had nothing to hide?

I know also, if you go to www.acandyrose.com you will find this....Patsy's sample handwriting. She was sitting at a table with some of the investigators, and they asked her to write a sample letter. Just something off the top of her head...and in it she says..."there are two gentlemen from the CBI...."......sound familiar? Here is the link..

http://blabbieville.tripod.com/patsychart8letter2.gif

 

[Grainne Dhu]

GrainneDhu

Thanks for the examples on Spanish to English. Quite itneresting.

I have no doubts about your Spanish, and you may well be right. OTOH, it never really struck me (or most people as far as I can tell) that the note must have been written by someone who was thinking in another language and translating to English.

As with most everything in this case - maybe, maybe not.

You should have doubts about my Spanish! It's horribly out of date and barely even there.

The more I think about it, the more I wonder if it was written by someone trying to imitate a native Spanish speaker who also speaks English.

Another (more tenuous) possible bit of evidence are the threats made in the letter about JonBenet. If you read up on the Central and South American drug cartel wars, this type of threat is often made (and often carried out).

Two of the most common threats are "necktying" (a manner of killing which does not involve strangulation). The other common threat is beheading.

I've always thought that whoever wrote that note was attempting to disguise their usual language, which led to some unusual choices. Now I wonder if the way the writer chose to do so was by imitating a Spanish (or possibly French) speaker.

The influx of undocumented Mexican workers wasn't a big new item back in 1996 but it was certainly common. It wouldn't surprise me to discover that there were one or more people amongst the possible suspects who had hired an undocumented worker and so was somewhat familiar with the manner of speaking, which may have also triggered memories of the cartel wars.

 

[Ames]

when they had patsy do samples of writing did they have her use the sharpie pen ??

Yes they did, and even though some experts say that Patsy wrote the RN, and some say she didn't....it is going to be hard finding some of the writing to be an exact match BECAUSE not all Sharpie Pens are created equal. By that I mean....a fresh Sharpie, right out of the pack, is going to be more pointed, and precise. While one that has been used, is going to have a flatter tip...therefore creating fatter letters. Who KNOWS how many times the one, that was used to write the actual RN, had been used before.

 

[LI_Mom]

I KNOW! And she wasn't "aware that they were typed".....YEAH RIGHT! She typed them, but she wasn't aware that they were typed. Yep, looks just a "tad" bit suspicious to me. She wanted the investigators to have as little of handwriting samples of hers as possible. She was afraid that they might use Burke's Fridays folder comments by her...to compare with the ransom note. Why would she switch to typing them, if she had nothing to hide?

I know also, if you go to www.acandyrose.com you will find this....Patsy's sample handwriting. She was sitting at a table with some of the investigators, and they asked her to write a sample letter. Just something off the top of her head...and in it she says..."there are two gentlemen from the CBI...."......sound familiar? Here is the link..

http://blabbieville.tripod.com/patsychart8letter2.gif

Interesting link.

It's easy to see why they could NOT exclude her as the writer.

 

[robotdog]

here is the real nail in her coffin

http://blabbieville.tripod.com/patsychart-rn2full2.gif

 

[BBB167893]

here is the real nail in her coffin

http://blabbieville.tripod.com/patsychart-rn2full2.gif

Hooray! You found it!

Remember, the letter was BLOCK PRINTED, which makes analysis extremely difficult, especially an analysis that depends on unscientific opinions. Ultimately, it comes down to our own eyes and common sense, not to mention the peculiatrities of language that she was known to use that just happen to show up in the note...

 

[Ames]

Let me ask your opinion on something....

You know how some experts say that Patsy is the author of the rn, and some say she isn't?? WELL...okay, she used a Sharpie pen for her sample RN...just like the author of the real RN did. I know from experience that all Sharpies are not all created equal, depending on how many times they have been used. The more use...the flatter the tip...and fatter the letters will be. Nobody knows how old that Sharpie was, that was used to write the RN with. It could have been used numerous times...who knows? Well, do you know if the Sharpie pen used by Patsy in her samples...was the exact same pen from their home, used to write the RN?? If NOT..then that could explain some of the differences between the two. Even though, I haven't notice any differences at all between Patsy's handwriting and the RN author...apparently some "experts" have, and I wondered if this could be the reason.

 

[BBB167893]

Let me ask your opinion on something....something that needs to be on another thread, but anyway...here goes.

You know how some experts say that Patsy is the author of the rn, and some say she isn't?? WELL...okay, she used a Sharpie pen for her sample RN...just like the author of the real RN did. I know from experience that all Sharpies are not all created equal, depending on how many times they have been used. The more use...the flatter the tip...and fatter the letters will be. Nobody knows how old that Sharpie was, that was used to write the RN with. It could have been used numerous times...who knows? Well, do you know if the Sharpie pen used by Patsy in her samples...was the exact same pen from their home, used to write the RN?? If NOT..then that could explain some of the differences between the two. Even though, I haven't notice any differences at all between Patsy's handwriting and the RN author...apparently some "experts" have, and I wondered if this could be the reason.

Okay, Ames. I highly doubt that she used the exact same one, if for no other reason than the original was most likely locked up in the evidence room.

 

[Ames]

Okay, Ames. I highly doubt that she used the exact same one, if for no other reason than the original was most likely locked up in the evidence room.

Yep, that is what I thought! So, THAT should answer alot of those IDI questions about why SOME "experts" say that Patsy didn't write the note.

 

[BBB167893]

Yep, that is what I thought! So, THAT should answer alot of those IDI questions about why SOME "experts" say that Patsy didn't write the note.

Maybe it should, but it probably won't.

 

[Ames]

Maybe it should, but it probably won't.

Yeah, I know...unfortunately.