The Blood Droplets

[beesy]

Maybe the most informative thing he offered was that she bled a lot and the her body reacted to the initial blood loss by compensating with other fluids which is why she didn't go into shock. Her body didn't show the consequences of the blood loss until the next day. In the end this probably hurt her more than helped her

This part here, do you think he is referring to blood settling or pooling back down as we've discussed before? Her body reacting to trauma? Is that what he means?

I don't know why her supporters think there is something earthshattering in this testimony because it clearly is not there

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Yep, and as usual her supporters leave out everything but the 1 sentence about defensive wounds. Sheese

 

[txsvicki]

I don't think it's very possible for some intruder to have held both of Darlie's wrists with his left hand, then cut her throat all while straddling her on the couch and pinning her arms down with his legs. The large ,breasts would have had some sort of bruising and not just the little spot on one side of her chest and her left arm would have to be more bruised from being pinned down. The intruder would have had to put one leg down on the floor to keep from falling or being bucked off the couch, or at least that's the way it seems to me.

 

[G.I.RattlesnakeJane]

I don't think it's very possible for some intruder to have held both of Darlie's wrists with his left hand, then cut her throat all while straddling her on the couch and pinning her arms down with his legs. The large ,breasts would have had some sort of bruising and not just the little spot on one side of her chest and her left arm would have to be more bruised from being pinned down. The intruder would have had to put one leg down on the floor to keep from falling or being bucked off the couch, or at least that's the way it seems to me.

My hubby had no problem pinning me this way on the couch. I found some more sites one is from the brazoria county sheriffs dept. It has a lot of information about blood evidence. I haven't figured out the links part yet but the address is
www.brazoria-county.com/sheriff/id/blood/index.htm

It is listed under general information.




Where does the streaking blood come in if she was fighting him- explain if possible what kind of pattern you are describing. I don't think it was the person I quoted who said this. I thought I read it in a previous post.

 

[beesy]

My hubby had no problem pinning me this way on the couch. I found some more sites one is from the brazoria county sheriffs dept. It has a lot of information about blood evidence. I haven't figured out the links part yet but the address is

Could he have stabbed you in the arm and slit your throat while pinning you? Are you saying you think the bft bruises on her arms came from being pinned down? I don't think grabbing somebody is bft. If, which you seem to, believe DiMaio then you have to believe the bruises are bft. Hitting with a fist is, but not pinning. Have your husband hold a spoon or something. Put a big pillow under your shirt for and see if he can pin you, cut your arm, slit your throat, and hit you in the arms with his fists or anything else which could cause bft.

Where does the streaking blood come in if she was fighting him- explain if possible what kind of pattern you are describing. I don't think it was the person I quoted who said this. I thought I read it in a previous post

What streaking blood? The blood on the coffee table?

 

[Goody]

Right, and when LE did experiments with Snooty's blood, oops, I mean cow's blood, the knife always left spatter or some sort of pattern.

hahahahahahah. Now, now, snoots isn't here to defend himself. Regarding the tests, you are very correct.

 

[Goody]

[/color] This part here, do you think he is referring to blood settling or pooling back down as we've discussed before? Her body reacting to trauma? Is that what he means?

No. He is referring to a low blood count, I think. I have forgotten what terms he used, but it is all related to the old argument about whether she lost enough blood to go into shock. People who think she is guilty don't want to admit she lost a lot of blood and those who think she is innocent want to exaggerate how much she lost. DiMaio kind of puts the issue to rest. She did lose a lot of blood. She was not near bleeding out though as supporters usually want us to believe. She showed no sign of being in shock but by the next day her body reflected the loss in whatever tests he was referring to. Still not enough to make her go into shock though. He used it to show that there was significant blood loss, but I read it as proof she was never in shock....her body immediately compensated as our bodies do in a crisis. No shock, no loss of alertness....she knew exactly what was going on around her and could have sat down next to Damon if she had a mind to. She just didn't have a mind to, pure and simple. No dizziness either. More BS on that front. If she was dizzy, it was not until the next day.
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[Goody]

I don't think it's very possible for some intruder to have held both of Darlie's wrists with his left hand, then cut her throat all while straddling her on the couch and pinning her arms down with his legs. The large ,breasts would have had some sort of bruising and not just the little spot on one side of her chest and her left arm would have to be more bruised from being pinned down. The intruder would have had to put one leg down on the floor to keep from falling or being bucked off the couch, or at least that's the way it seems to me.

Well, he sure couldn't have tried without cutting himself up in the process, too and then his blood would be in numerous places, none of which was found so you can guess what the answer to that one is.

Also, Dr DiMaio said that bft bruises cannot be caused by someone pinning one's limbs down or by kneeling/sitting on them.

 

[deanws]

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No. He is referring to a low blood count, I think. I have forgotten what terms he used, but it is all related to the old argument about whether she lost enough blood to go into shock. People who think she is guilty don't want to admit she lost a lot of blood and those who think she is innocent want to exaggerate how much she lost. DiMaio kind of puts the issue to rest. She did lose a lot of blood. She was not near bleeding out though as supporters usually want us to believe. She showed no sign of being in shock but by the next day her body reflected the loss in whatever tests he was referring to. Still not enough to make her go into shock though. He used it to show that there was significant blood loss, but I read it as proof she was never in shock....her body immediately compensated as our bodies do in a crisis. No shock, no loss of alertness....she knew exactly what was going on around her and could have sat down next to Damon if she had a mind to. She just didn't have a mind to, pure and simple. No dizziness either. More BS on that front. If she was dizzy, it was not until the next day.
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I don't know about the dizzy part. I have gotten dizzy from giving blood before, so I don't think there is any way to know for sure if she was or was not dizzy. The shock part? No signs support that. I don't think she ever went into shock either.

 

[Goody]

I don't know about the dizzy part. I have gotten dizzy from giving blood before, so I don't think there is any way to know for sure if she was or was not dizzy. The shock part? No signs support that. I don't think she ever went into shock either.

She said she got dizzy so she leaned on the vacuum cleaner for support. Most of us have said that you'd think she have chosen to lean on the counter since she had a couple of them real close to where she was standing. Why lean on a vacuum if the counter is right there? I think, after rereading Dr D's testimony, that her body was compensating for the blood loss,. She sounded alert. Police said she looked alert. She might have gotten a little lightheaded just from the adrenalin pumping, but dizzy? I don't think so. At least I don't see any reason to believe it right now.

 

[G.I.RattlesnakeJane]

I don't know how to draw a map. You can see the knife outline in a wide shot of the FR in MTJD or maybe cami knows or it's probably in the transcripts.

beesy all lost again. Where is there mixed blood on her shirt? Mixed is not when blood overlays other blood.


Damon is not the first child. Damon was the middle boy All of the cast-off drops of blood are Damon's. They aren't mixed , either is the teeny dot of Devon's. I don't have any idea where the rest of the cast-off is. If some was on Darlie, which there was, then she stabbed him.

The blood that is supposed to have mixed on the knife and cast off onto her shirt. THIS BLOOD IS LOCATED R, L ,BACK, FRONT?

How many total drops of cast off do you have on the shirt.

I'll keep reading transcripts too.

 

[deanws]

She said she got dizzy so she leaned on the vacuum cleaner for support. Most of us have said that you'd think she have chosen to lean on the counter since she had a couple of them real close to where she was standing. Why lean on a vacuum if the counter is right there? I think, after rereading Dr D's testimony, that her body was compensating for the blood loss,. She sounded alert. Police said she looked alert. She might have gotten a little lightheaded just from the adrenalin pumping, but dizzy? I don't think so. At least I don't see any reason to believe it right now.

Loosing as much blood as she did, I don't see how she COULD NOT have become dizzy. As far the vacuum cleaner is concerned, it was an obvious plant to being with. The police had already figured out that. She was just grasping at straws by then anyway.

 

[justice2]

Loosing as much blood as she did, I don't see how she COULD NOT have become dizzy. As far the vacuum cleaner is concerned, it was an obvious plant to being with. The police had already figured out that. She was just grasping at straws by then anyway.

I don't totally understand this but her blood pressure didn't drop, it was still somewhere around 120/80 or in that range. The ambulance guys expected it to be low but it wasn't.

 

[deanws]

I don't totally understand this but her blood pressure didn't drop, it was still somewhere around 120/80 or in that range. The ambulance guys expected it to be low but it wasn't.

I don't either. But according to her vitals, she was just about perfect! LOL...Makes you wonder doesn't it? :waitasec:

 

[Goody]

I don't totally understand this but her blood pressure didn't drop, it was still somewhere around 120/80 or in that range. The ambulance guys expected it to be low but it wasn't.

That is because her body compensated for the blood loss the first day by rerouting other bodily fluids to make up for the loss. The next day some kind of count was low (forget what it was called), indicating the blood loss had altered it. THAT is when she would have been dizzy if she were going to be dizzy in my estimation. The second day when her body reacted to the blood loss. I just haven't been successful in pointing that out here.

If her body was compensating for the blood loss with other body fluids, there is not any reason that she would have been dizzy. Esp so dizzy that she had to hold onto something. That story about falling faint on her way out with Darin and a paramedic helping her to the porch is all drama and no truth. By then Darin was gone, on his way to the Neals. And neither paramedica recalled all that drama. It isn't in her statements and I don't think showed up anywhere until she testified.

 

[deanws]

That is because her body compensated for the blood loss the first day by rerouting other bodily fluids to make up for the loss. The next day some kind of count was low (forget what it was called), indicating the blood loss had altered it. THAT is when she would have been dizzy if she were going to be dizzy in my estimation. The second day when her body reacted to the blood loss. I just haven't been successful in pointing that out here.

If her body was compensating for the blood loss with other body fluids, there is not any reason that she would have been dizzy. Esp so dizzy that she had to hold onto something. That story about falling faint on her way out with Darin and a paramedic helping her to the porch is all drama and no truth. By then Darin was gone, on his way to the Neals. And neither paramedica recalled all that drama. It isn't in her statements and I don't think showed up anywhere until she testified.

You usually feel dizzy right after a blood loss. The next day you tend to feel weak. As for the drama? The whole thing was drama wasn't it? If the verdict is correct, and I believe it is...then everything from the beginning of this whole ordeal is one long drama. That's how she operates. The public and jury just didn't seem to buy what the queen was selling. Good thing huh!!?!?

 

[beesy]

The blood that is supposed to have mixed on the knife and cast off onto her shirt. THIS BLOOD IS LOCATED R, L ,BACK, FRONT?

How many total drops of cast off do you have on the shirt.

I'll keep reading transcripts too.

4 spots in Damon's blood. It did not mix on the knife. The cast-off is in Damon's blood and it overlaps some of Darlie's on the shirt. Not mixed, but on top.

 

[beesy]

That is because her body compensated for the blood loss the first day by rerouting other bodily fluids to make up for the loss. The next day some kind of count was low (forget what it was called), indicating the blood loss had altered it. THAT is when she would have been dizzy if she were going to be dizzy in my estimation. The second day when her body reacted to the blood loss. I just haven't been successful in pointing that out here

electrolytes? Darlie wasn't so dizzy that she couldn't sit her butt down on the floor with Damon and hold his hand.

 

[deanws]

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electrolytes? Darlie wasn't so dizzy that she couldn't sit her butt down on the floor with Damon and hold his hold.

beesy,...do you think she was afraid to get near him because she was scared he would give her away by being afraid of her? Or worse yet, tell everyone that she did it? I know he couldn't talk, but maybe she didn't realize that. ..

 

[Goody]

You usually feel dizzy right after a blood loss. The next day you tend to feel weak. As for the drama? The whole thing was drama wasn't it? If the verdict is correct, and I believe it is...then everything from the beginning of this whole ordeal is one long drama. That's how she operates. The public and jury just didn't seem to buy what the queen was selling. Good thing huh!!?!?

I guess the point is not worth arguing. I just don[t understand how someone would feel dizzy before their body reacted to the injury...or in this case the blood loss. But I am not a medical expert so time to move on.

 

[Goody]

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electrolytes? Darlie wasn't so dizzy that she couldn't sit her butt down on the floor with Damon and hold his hold.

You will get no argument from me. I don't even think she was dizzy. Light headed maybe but definitely no serious dizzy spells going there. Alas, but I am only one lone voice in a sea of .....something. hahahahahah.