The Blue Barrel in the Bedroom? #1

[SuziQ]

Mysteriew, I completely get what you are saying. I'll go one further and say it might be easier to find the barrel moving man than to find the barrel itself. And how does the blue barrel translate to it being in water? Finding and cornering the barrel moving man could lead directly to Stacy. Seems to me to be more logical and easier than looking for a needle in a haystack. Stacy could be anywhere.

ETA: Unless LE has a very solid lead that indicates Stacy is in a barrel, then I hope they are considering other theories.

 

[SuziQ]

Another thought, how do we know that when Drew says he picked up Stacy's car from the airport he wasn't talking about O'hare? Maybe he originally intended her body and her car to be found there? O'Hare would make more sense with the running off with 25K and her bikini story. For some reason though, he choked, had a change of plans and brought her car back. Maybe Drews bandana disguise was for hiding from an O'hare parking attendant.

 

[Leila]

Mysteriew, I completely get what you are saying. I'll go one further and say it might be easier to find the barrel moving man than to find the barrel itself. And how does the blue barrel translate to it being in water? Finding and cornering the barrel moving man could lead directly to Stacy. Seems to me to be more logical and easier than looking for a needle in a haystack. Stacy could be anywhere.

ETA: Unless LE has a very solid lead that indicates Stacy is in a barrel, then I hope they are considering other theories.

I think the reason LE is concentrating on water is because of the items missing - the blue barrel, scuba diving weights, and nightstand.

It's the scuba diving weights that stand out, as they'd be used to weigh a body or a body in a barrel down when placed in water so they don't surface.

 

[Leila]

One of the articles that I read about the search for the blue barrel said that Drew P bought the barrel with chlorine recently. Obviously Drew P will say that is where the plastic in his vehicle came from.

Okay, think about this one. Drew P. said that he found Stacy's car at Clow airport and we all figured that that was a diversion. Searches and dives did not find a body in the area. Drew P said she went to Jamaica, we all figure that too is a diversion to get LE looking to Jamaica.

Drew P brings home a blue barrel and it is now missing. Bits of plastic are found in his vehicle. A neighbor saw Drew P and unknown man carrying a blue barrel out of the home (if they were carrying a dead body in a barrel, wouldn't you think they would check to see if anyone was outside?) What if this too is a diversion meant to get LE to looking for a blue barrel and in the water?

I keep thinking about the neighbors saying that there was a hit on the car by the cadaver dogs and allegedly Drew P tried to put the car elsewhere during the search warrant. But there are no reports of hits on the SUV and no reports of trying to hide the vehicle. What if the barrel was taken one way in the Denauli, and Stacy's body was taken a different way in the car? For instance what if Drew P took the barrel and disposed of it, and the other man took the body and disposed of it? Or vice versa.

Maybe the reason that Drew P seems so arrogant and confident is that he knows that LE is following a false trail? The reason I am thinking of that is that IMO, the only thing worse than finding no evidence would be to find too much evidence and all of it pointing to different directions.

Also, I wonder if the neighbor who saw the man with DrewP noticed a strange car in the neighborhood? Did he park at the airport and walk to DrewP's house, and when they got back from where ever they did the disposals, the other man parked the car he was driving in the airport lot and picked up his own. DrewP then walked back to the airport and picked it up.

Does this make sense or is it only the ramblings of a tired mind, lol?

I understand what you're saying. But, just from the way DP has acted, I don't think he planned it. I think he killed Stacy in a rage over something. Then, he had to think of a way to dispose of the body quickly. I don't think he had time to think of any diversions. He disposed of her body, and then came up with the "she ran off with another man" statement. If he had planned it, I don't think he would have planned on killing her in the house, especially with the children present in the house......he would have thought of a way to get Stacy to go with him somewhere, or meet him somewhere.

Since the beginning, DP has been very transparent in his actions, and I have the feeling that he's making it up as he goes along - not that he had planned it. The letter he supposedly received from a tipster is one such transparent thing. A genuine tipster would be calling LE with their "sighting" of Stacy in the Kroger store in Peoria, not sending DP a letter.

What we've seen of DP, we know he's a very bad actor and not good at planning. He had time - a couple of days to prepare for the interview on the Today show. He's a policeman and should know how people react to bad news about a loved one. Yet, he couldn't even muster up some fake tears or fake emotion. Instead of going on that program and crying and pleading with Stacy to return to her family and saying how sad and upset her children are without mommy, it was all about him. He couldn't even act like a grieving, jilted, spouse.

When it came to the exhuming of KS body and the second autopsy, he attacked the findings of a medical examiner, instead of acting surprised at hearing that his ex-wife's death was a homicide. DP isn't good at planning things to make people think he's not guilty of wrong-doing.

I'm just not sure if DP is smart enough to think in terms of planning a diversion.

 

[mysteriew]

Good points.

 

[Camper]

Great thoughts mysteriew and Leila. The 'blue barrel' certainly has the apparent undivided attention of LE NOW. They are intensifiying because soon the waters will be frozen, which will bring the searching to a halt.

DP's focus I think would have been to just make the barrel disappear,
IF IF Stacy was in it.

The Googling I did, reflects that those types of barrels can be shipped, just a thought, BUT who, where etc.

IF IF the cadaver dog hit in 'the bedroom', Stacy must have been dead BEFORE the barrel entered into the picture?

"(JUST A dumb thought here
IF IF the barrel was really EMPTY when presented as holding Chlorine, what if water was added AFTER it was in the garage, AND AND then the easy Chlorine tablets could have been added to the water, just enough to cover the head of someone who was dumped in to insure death by the chlorine. Googling indicated that heavy concentration of Chlorine will indeed cause death.

Some of this could in fact have been prepped before the day SP disappeared IF IF SP was dumped in head first to ensure death ??)

WE don't know when the barrel was moved from the yard to the garage do we ?, I donut remember reading info about that. IF IF IF LE knows 'that' then we could better figure out IF IF IF the barrel was to play into the 'disappearance as pre planned' OR OR IF IF it was spur of the moment panic etc.

The older children may have information about that. Did the children take a school bus to school or were they driven each day? Was this a double garage, that the children may have walked through each day to get in 'a' car to be taken to school?

Surely the 'neighbor' would have known IF IF the man who helped load the barrel into DP's vehicle went with HIM as well!?!? WE donut know IF IF IF the neighbor who saw them might have been SP's good friend/neighbor. IF IF it was her good friend/neighbor (Sharon Bychowski) bet she watched the whole thing 'until' the Danali left.

I am also 'guessing' that IF IF IF it was Sharon, that she called the PD AFTER Sharon went missing, rather than the PD checking out the neighborhood. I am also wondering WHAT things Stacy may have shared with Sharon 'about' DP.

The purchasing of 'such' a barrel should show up in specific credit card purchasing records. In the JonBenet case LE was able to check Credit Card purchases, and NO ONE was arrested in that case.

LE in DP's case, have checked telephone records already. Guessing they have been trying to track down the barrel purchase also by Credit Card records as well.

One more question HOW do we know that Stacy was told by DP that the barrel had chlorine in it, who was the source for that information?

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[Trino]

The 'blue barrel' certainly has the apparent undivided attention of LE NOW.

A couple of thoughts cross my mind about the barrel. DP was a cop with connections. Was $25,000 really missing from the home safe? Could he have used that money to pay off a criminal connection to dispose of Stacy? Would this be why the helper cannot be found?

OR, maybe the barrel is indeed a diversion. Would DP really have moved Stacy's body in the middle of the day in plain sight of a neighbor?

Finally, wouldn't DP have had to call someone for help? Cell phone record???

 

[Littledeer]

Okay. I understand why there are two threads discussing the "blue barrel" (I think)

We have a so called "blue barrel" that was in the garage and I believe at the beginning, a "blue container" was mentioned that was in their bedroom?

I believe that this "unknown male" that was seen by a neighbor helping DP move the "blue barrel" to a vehicle, was one of DP's unsavory friends who probably was paid the $25,000 that DP says Stacy took to ensure his silence. It's been almost a month and no one has come forward saying "I was the one who helped DP" and this male has not been seen since.

IMO

 

[Camper]

A couple of thoughts cross my mind about the barrel. DP was a cop with connections. Was $25,000 really missing from the home safe? Could he have used that money to pay off a criminal connection to dispose of Stacy? Would this be why the helper cannot be found?

OR, maybe the barrel is indeed a diversion. Would DP really have moved Stacy's body in the middle of the day in plain sight of a neighbor?

Finally, wouldn't DP have had to call someone for help? Cell phone record???

--->>>No cell phone record IF IF IF it was a close friend of DP, OR someone that he could have physical meeting with. It is really important IF IF IF at all possible that LE know IF IF IF the man who helped load the barrel into DP"s car went with DP in the car with the barrel.

The two of them then go to the unidentified mans vehicle load the barrel in (I am guessing a truck would be less suspicious to have a blue barrel in it) and the our man goes to where ever or do whatever the heck he was going to do, to dispose of 'the' barrel or make the barrel disappear with the body in it, or to remove the body in some gosh for saken area and bury it.

IF IF the man is never identified, and IF IF he has the $25,000.00 he will never squeal on DP. Wonder IF IF the 'man' puts his money in a coffee can or in a bank or ??

Wonder which of DP's acquaintances owns a 'truck'? IF IF IF a truck was involved, or ultimately found, it MIGHT have a company name on it, IF so that might be a reason the 'man' did not drive it to DP's house that day and pick up the barrel there.

HOW do we know that there was $25,000 in the home or HOW Stacy would know about IT? Do we have a source for that info, other than DP's
story time tales.
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[SuziQ]

Okay. I understand why there are two threads discussing the "blue barrel" (I think)

We have a so called "blue barrel" that was in the garage and I believe at the beginning, a "blue container" was mentioned that was in their bedroom?

I believe that this "unknown male" that was seen by a neighbor helping DP move the "blue barrel" to a vehicle, was one of DP's unsavory friends who probably was paid the $25,000 that DP says Stacy took to ensure his silence. It's been almost a month and no one has come forward saying "I was the one who helped DP" and this male has not been seen since.

IMO

The hairs on the back of my neck stood up reading that sentence. Making sure that person never came forward would boost Drews confidence wouldn't it? Whatever the reason, you are right. The only reason for the barrel moving man not to come forward is if he knew Stacy was in the barrel.

 

[Camper]

Okay. I understand why there are two threads discussing the "blue barrel" (I think)

We have a so called "blue barrel" that was in the garage and I believe at the beginning, a "blue container" was mentioned that was in their bedroom?

I believe that this "unknown male" that was seen by a neighbor helping DP move the "blue barrel" to a vehicle, was one of DP's unsavory friends who probably was paid the $25,000 that DP says Stacy took to ensure his silence. It's been almost a month and no one has come forward saying "I was the one who helped DP" and this male has not been seen since.

IMO

--->>>My thread about the 'blue barrel' is the only one specifically discussing the blue barrel. Important to read the entirety of this thread, it has tons of information in it, IF IF readers will take the time to read it all. Your thoughts have been previously posted here, and would explain why NO ONE has come forward and probably will not, particularly IF IF they have the $25,000!!

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[SuziQ]

Camper, good point. Drew had to have contacted the person somehow to ask them to come over. And I just recalled that Sharon was questioned last week about phone calls.

 

[Littledeer]

Suzi:

He might not have even been aware that Stacy might be in the barrel. DP could have said it was full of chlorine and he didn't need it or the chlorine was bad, so he was going to return it.

I was stressing the fact that this person has not come forward yet, and was probably paid off by DP for his silence. The amount of $25,000 has to mean something to DP to have come up with that amount.

Hopefully, this person will slip up and inadvertantly say something to someone that will put two and two together and contact the LE.

 

[Littledeer]

Thank you camper. I have read this and other threads.

 

[SuziQ]

Suzi:

He might not have even been aware that Stacy might be in the barrel. DP could have said it was full of chlorine and he didn't need it or the chlorine was bad, so he was going to return it.

I was stressing the fact that this person has not come forward yet, and was probably paid off by DP for his silence. The amount of $25,000 has to mean something to DP to have come up with that amount.

Hopefully, this person will slip up and inadvertantly say something to someone that will put two and two together and contact the LE.

True, but he knows now. Either through the news or because DP paid him 25K. Either way, that kind of knowledge is dangerous to one's health.

 

[SuziQ]

Another thing to remember is, that a heavy blue rubbermaid container was moved from an upstairs bedroom. If that was the barrel, then how did he explain that being in a bedroom to begin with?

ETA: Dragging that thing up the stairs would mean that it had to have been empty.

 

[strach304]

True, but he knows now. Either through the news or because DP paid him 25K. Either way, that kind of knowledge is dangerous to one's health.

Eveyone else seems to be turning up dead. Could explain why this guy hasn't come forward.

 

[strach304]

Early on it was reported that the dogs alerted in the bedroom and the trunk of Stacy's car. Seemed easy enough to discern at the time. Combined with Sharon and Cassandra's observations of when the cars were and were not present at the house. Then the whole airport story. It was Stacy's car Drew wouldn't let LE search. Such obvious or so it seemed actions by Drew that were probably intentionally done. I don't believe he is a stupid man. I don't believe him being a cop he would've made many mistakes.

I know the barrel missing is legit I'm just not sure it isn't another diversion by Drew. After all he did have someone help, did move it in the presence of neighbors. The children were home so would've seen him taking the barrel to the bedroom or Stacy to the garage? That person who helped him load it into the truck would have had to help taking it from the bedroom. So many questions. :doh:

 

[strach304]

Another thing to remember is, that a heavy blue rubbermaid container was moved from an upstairs bedroom. If that was the barrel, then how did he explain that being in a bedroom to begin with?

ETA: Dragging that thing up the stairs would mean that it had to have been empty.

Has to be two separate containers. Could he lug the first one from the bedroom with Stacy in it to the garage. Then get her in the barrel with the chlorine and move it with help to the suv?

 

[SuziQ]

Has to be two separate containers. Could he lug the first one from the bedroom with Stacy in it to the garage. Then get her in the barrel with the chlorine and move it with help to the suv?

Could be that as well. I wish we knew whether the containers were different or not.