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As usual we disagree and see things through different “lenses.” :) I don’t think the events that led up to her father not being there were under her control at all. How could she control them? He did that all by himself (with his other daughter’s help) and Prince Charles ended up walking Meghan down the aisle. If Meghan had manipulated her father not to attend, I’m sure he would have told us! I’ve never heard anything to support your belief that she wanted to control camera angles, etc.
JMO

I agree about camera angles. Royal weddings are masterfully filmed, and photographed.

Where I do feel she had control is if she was going to ask her Dad to walk her down the aisle why didn’t she introduce her fiancé to her Dad? Was he just expected to show up, walk her down the aisle, and say nice to meet you to Harry? How terrifying and embarrassing for him.

I don’t think she manipulated him. But she may have known he has certain issues like travel, anxiety, whatever... Certainly his boundaries need some work. I feel like they both suffered for how badly it was handled.

Prince Charles did indeed save the day. And Meghan was a beautiful bride with her supportive mum there.

Cringeworthy is what her half sister is and I think it set up a very unfortunate sense of total embarrassment and shame for both Meghan and her Dad. Meghan could have stood up to her sister. That’s what expert PR people are for. And just focused on her Dad.

Every detail of the wedding was thought out. And these touchy relationships should have been worked out long before the wedding day. Especially if one is in a royal wedding!

Imo.
 
  • #302
Ohhhhh. News at 10 - Harry confirms "on different paths" with William. Meghan reveals her British friends warned her against marrying Harry as the British tabloids would destroy her. She says she has tried and tried to do things the royal way but the "stiff upper lip is really damaging". Ouchie.
 
  • #303
QE is visiting a Mosque? It looks like a special pair of socks so she doesn’t have to go barefoot.

Her black low heals are waiting for her at the door when she exits, I think.

Thanks.So I guess the answer might be "no", she doesn't own any.
If anyone ever finds a photo of her as an adult wearing any sneakers, please post.
 
  • #304
I'm still uncertain what is meant by "modernizing" the monarchy. Seems as though everyone has a different idea of what that means. JMO, it shouldn't mean "market branding" or mass commercializing of it. It shouldn't go the direction of cheap reality TV, bad manners, tacky behavior. Bringing more diversity, relaxed outreach to citizens, etc. are good things, but ignoring and abandoning all the great history, traditions and ceremonial dignity seems unnecessary and counter-productive. That's up to the subjects of the Queen, not to us, citizens of the US.

For those of you who are part of the British Empire, how do you define "modernizing the monarchy"?

BBM : I'm hesitant to post this as I don't particularly want to invite drama and H and M seem to be a bit of a divisive topic. But I'm going to throw caution to the wind and say how I feel, I'm sure some will agree with me and some won't.

As a British taxpayer there is a lot of commentary on SM and even on this thread that I find mildly offensive. As I've said before, the Royal Family do things in a very particular way in order to ensure the continuity and the stability of the Monarchy. At a time when our country is deeply divided, when we haven't had a stable government for a number of years, we need a stable Monarchy more than ever. The Royal Family are bigger than any one person, it is a centuries old establishment. Harry and Meghan are minor members of this family, whether they like it or not, they are in no position to be changing or "modernizing" anything, this is simply far above their station. The Queen is our Head of State ably assisted by Charles, William and their wives, that is the way it is and the way it will remain.

British taxpayers are compelled by law, to give money to the Royal Family and in return we expect a certain standard of behaviour. If Harry and Meghan are unable or unwilling to adhere to that, they can renounce their titles and remove themselves. If they want to be working royals then they need to toe the line, they can't have it both ways.

We all watched Harry at his mother's funeral, we cried with him and for him. And also for his brother, William who as a lot of people appear to forget, also lost his mother. Diana had two sons. We were delighted when he met Meghan and when they got engaged we welcomed her with open arms and we lined the streets to wish them well on their wedding day.

Meghan has NOT been treated any more unfairly by the press than any other incoming member of the Royal Family. Catherine had her private life dissected, she was called names like social climber, peasant, commoner. Her family were judged, her mother was accused of being pushy, of having sent Catherine to St. Andrew's to "snare" Prince William. She was called desperate, Waity Katie. She's been called lazy and work-shy. She had hundreds of paparazzi following her around every time she left the house. She has had embarrassing family members in the press (Uncle Gary anyone?) Beatrice and Eugenie have had their lives scrutinised, every fashion or make up choice they have ever made has been pored over, they have been known and referred to for years as the ugly step-sisters.

I resent that anyone who doesn't connect with Meghan is automatically labelled as a bully, or worse a racist. Great Britain is a diverse society, we have all cultures and faiths here and it is one of our greatest strengths. Instead of celebrating this, Harry as someone who supposed to be a representative of our country, would rather perpetuate the myth that we are a country of racist bullies. This could not be further from the truth.

Harry and Meghan are NOT hounded by the press. The only time Harry and Meghan are ever seen in public is when Harry and Meghan want to be seen in public. Have a look on you tube at the videos of Catherine being followed by paparazzi. Nothing like this has happened to Meghan.

HM The Queen lived a personal tragedy at a young age, but she dealt with it, and everything that followed, with the utmost grace and dignity.

Commenting on Meghan's bridal make up is not bullying. When her makeup artist is appearing on any daytime tv show that will have him to discuss that exact thing, people are obviously going to comment on it. Some will like it, some will not. If Meghan is unhappy with this, perhaps she should ask her friends to be a little more discreet.

I've never been a fan of Harry, his behaviour has been disgraceful at times when he was plenty old enough to know better. I won't go into it but the pictures are easy to find if you wish.

It is my opinion that our Royal Family is far too big, with too many hangers on who feel they are entitled to special treatment and tax payers money. They are public servants, we do not bow down to them. I resent the view that we are supposed to view Meghan as some kind of hero doing so many great things for us lowly peasants. I've seen people from overseas commenting on how much she has improved our lives, although I've seen no tangible evidence of this.

Of course, this is all IMO. I do not presume to think that I speak for all Brits.
 
  • #305
Where I do feel she had control is if she was going to ask her Dad to walk her down the aisle why didn’t she introduce her fiancé to her Dad? Was he just expected to show up, walk her down the aisle, and say nice to meet you to Harry? How terrifying and embarrassing for him.

Yes, this was the first mistake they made, and I don’t understand why her Dad and Harry didn’t meet earlier. They did talk on the phone and then her Dad revealed some off-hand sort of favorable comment Harry made about Brexit IIRC, and that caused some embarrassment. I wonder if Meghan thought her father would cause less PR damage if he and Harry met in England shortly before the wedding for the first time. But then the photo fiasco orchestrated by her half sister was revealed and everything fell apart, so meeting earlier might not have made a difference. It was a mess!

I think we sometimes hope family issues will just go away or be put on hold for the sake of a wedding, so they aren’t confronted in hopes silence will keep them from getting worse. But it was a lose-lose situation with her determined-to-ruin-everything sister IMO.
 
  • #306
Prince Harry Addresses Rumored Rift Between Him and Prince William: 'Inevitably Stuff Happens'

"Speaking about the pressures of their jobs in the royal family, Harry said, “Inevitably stuff happens. But we’re brothers, we’ll always be brothers. We’re certainly on different paths at the moment. I’ll always be there for him and as I know, he’ll always be there for me. We don’t see each other as much as we used to because we’re so busy but I love him dearly.”

Despite my dislike for Meghan, that is a lot of pressure, unhappiness, and stress for a newlywed couple with a baby to be experiencing. I hope they both learn to listen to others and also stay away from the press, go live a quiet life for a few years, and build a solid foundation for their marriage and family.

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BBM : I'm hesitant to post this as I don't particularly want to invite drama and H and M seem to be a bit of a divisive topic. But I'm going to throw caution to the wind and say how I feel, I'm sure some will agree with me and some won't.

As a British taxpayer there is a lot of commentary on SM and even on this thread that I find mildly offensive. As I've said before, the Royal Family do things in a very particular way in order to ensure the continuity and the stability of the Monarchy. At a time when our country is deeply divided, when we haven't had a stable government for a number of years, we need a stable Monarchy more than ever. The Royal Family are bigger than any one person, it is a centuries old establishment. Harry and Meghan are minor members of this family, whether they like it or not, they are in no position to be changing or "modernizing" anything, this is simply far above their station. The Queen is our Head of State ably assisted by Charles, William and their wives, that is the way it is and the way it will remain.

British taxpayers are compelled by law, to give money to the Royal Family and in return we expect a certain standard of behaviour. If Harry and Meghan are unable or unwilling to adhere to that, they can renounce their titles and remove themselves. If they want to be working royals then they need to toe the line, they can't have it both ways.

We all watched Harry at his mother's funeral, we cried with him and for him. And also for his brother, William who as a lot of people appear to forget, also lost his mother. Diana had two sons. We were delighted when he met Meghan and when they got engaged we welcomed her with open arms and we lined the streets to wish them well on their wedding day.

Meghan has NOT been treated any more unfairly by the press than any other incoming member of the Royal Family. Catherine had her private life dissected, she was called names like social climber, peasant, commoner. Her family were judged, her mother was accused of being pushy, of having sent Catherine to St. Andrew's to "snare" Prince William. She was called desperate, Waity Katie. She's been called lazy and work-shy. She had hundreds of paparazzi following her around every time she left the house. She has had embarrassing family members in the press (Uncle Gary anyone?) Beatrice and Eugenie have had their lives scrutinised, every fashion or make up choice they have ever made has been pored over, they have been known and referred to for years as the ugly step-sisters.

I resent that anyone who doesn't connect with Meghan is automatically labelled as a bully, or worse a racist. Great Britain is a diverse society, we have all cultures and faiths here and it is one of our greatest strengths. Instead of celebrating this, Harry as someone who supposed to be a representative of our country, would rather perpetuate the myth that we are a country of racist bullies. This could not be further from the truth.

Harry and Meghan are NOT hounded by the press. The only time Harry and Meghan are ever seen in public is when Harry and Meghan want to be seen in public. Have a look on you tube at the videos of Catherine being followed by paparazzi. Nothing like this has happened to Meghan.

HM The Queen lived a personal tragedy at a young age, but she dealt with it, and everything that followed, with the utmost grace and dignity.

Commenting on Meghan's bridal make up is not bullying. When her makeup artist is appearing on any daytime tv show that will have him to discuss that exact thing, people are obviously going to comment on it. Some will like it, some will not. If Meghan is unhappy with this, perhaps she should ask her friends to be a little more discreet.

I've never been a fan of Harry, his behaviour has been disgraceful at times when he was plenty old enough to know better. I won't go into it but the pictures are easy to find if you wish.

It is my opinion that our Royal Family is far too big, with too many hangers on who feel they are entitled to special treatment and tax payers money. They are public servants, we do not bow down to them. I resent the view that we are supposed to view Meghan as some kind of hero doing so many great things for us lowly peasants. I've seen people from overseas commenting on how much she has improved our lives, although I've seen no tangible evidence of this.

Of course, this is all IMO. I do not presume to think that I speak for all Brits.

Brilliant post, Ally. I agree with it all! I've always been fond of Harry and wish him well, but I think it's wise they both take a break for now.

As for streamlining and modernising the monarchy - I personally believe only the son/daughter of a monarch or future monarch should be titled Prince or Princess. Once the Queen's generation of 'cousin princes' has gone there will only be Beatrice and Eugenie out of place.
 
  • #308
BBM : I'm hesitant to post this as I don't particularly want to invite drama and H and M seem to be a bit of a divisive topic. But I'm going to throw caution to the wind and say how I feel, I'm sure some will agree with me and some won't.

As a British taxpayer there is a lot of commentary on SM and even on this thread that I find mildly offensive. As I've said before, the Royal Family do things in a very particular way in order to ensure the continuity and the stability of the Monarchy. At a time when our country is deeply divided, when we haven't had a stable government for a number of years, we need a stable Monarchy more than ever. The Royal Family are bigger than any one person, it is a centuries old establishment. Harry and Meghan are minor members of this family, whether they like it or not, they are in no position to be changing or "modernizing" anything, this is simply far above their station. The Queen is our Head of State ably assisted by Charles, William and their wives, that is the way it is and the way it will remain.

British taxpayers are compelled by law, to give money to the Royal Family and in return we expect a certain standard of behaviour. If Harry and Meghan are unable or unwilling to adhere to that, they can renounce their titles and remove themselves. If they want to be working royals then they need to toe the line, they can't have it both ways.

We all watched Harry at his mother's funeral, we cried with him and for him. And also for his brother, William who as a lot of people appear to forget, also lost his mother. Diana had two sons. We were delighted when he met Meghan and when they got engaged we welcomed her with open arms and we lined the streets to wish them well on their wedding day.

Meghan has NOT been treated any more unfairly by the press than any other incoming member of the Royal Family. Catherine had her private life dissected, she was called names like social climber, peasant, commoner. Her family were judged, her mother was accused of being pushy, of having sent Catherine to St. Andrew's to "snare" Prince William. She was called desperate, Waity Katie. She's been called lazy and work-shy. She had hundreds of paparazzi following her around every time she left the house. She has had embarrassing family members in the press (Uncle Gary anyone?) Beatrice and Eugenie have had their lives scrutinised, every fashion or make up choice they have ever made has been pored over, they have been known and referred to for years as the ugly step-sisters.

I resent that anyone who doesn't connect with Meghan is automatically labelled as a bully, or worse a racist. Great Britain is a diverse society, we have all cultures and faiths here and it is one of our greatest strengths. Instead of celebrating this, Harry as someone who supposed to be a representative of our country, would rather perpetuate the myth that we are a country of racist bullies. This could not be further from the truth.

Harry and Meghan are NOT hounded by the press. The only time Harry and Meghan are ever seen in public is when Harry and Meghan want to be seen in public. Have a look on you tube at the videos of Catherine being followed by paparazzi. Nothing like this has happened to Meghan.

HM The Queen lived a personal tragedy at a young age, but she dealt with it, and everything that followed, with the utmost grace and dignity.

Commenting on Meghan's bridal make up is not bullying. When her makeup artist is appearing on any daytime tv show that will have him to discuss that exact thing, people are obviously going to comment on it. Some will like it, some will not. If Meghan is unhappy with this, perhaps she should ask her friends to be a little more discreet.

I've never been a fan of Harry, his behaviour has been disgraceful at times when he was plenty old enough to know better. I won't go into it but the pictures are easy to find if you wish.

It is my opinion that our Royal Family is far too big, with too many hangers on who feel they are entitled to special treatment and tax payers money. They are public servants, we do not bow down to them. I resent the view that we are supposed to view Meghan as some kind of hero doing so many great things for us lowly peasants. I've seen people from overseas commenting on how much she has improved our lives, although I've seen no tangible evidence of this.

Of course, this is all IMO. I do not presume to think that I speak for all Brits.

Despite the fact that I have been one of Meghan’s fierce defenders on the thread, I do find myself agreeing with much of your post. So thank you for your perspective. Your most important point is this one IMO:

British taxpayers are compelled by law, to give money to the Royal Family and in return we expect a certain standard of behaviour. If Harry and Meghan are unable or unwilling to adhere to that, they can renounce their titles and remove themselves. If they want to be working royals then they need to toe the line, they can't have it both ways.
BBM

They have an opportunity to regroup and be a unifying force...or not. Here’s hoping they can figure it out. Personally, I think everyone will be better off if they remove themselves and live elsewhere.
 
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Brilliant post, Ally. I agree with it all! I've always been fond of Harry and wish him well, but I think it's wise they both take a break for now.

As for streamlining and modernising the monarchy - I personally believe only the son/daughter of a monarch or future monarch should be titled Prince or Princess. Once the Queen's generation of 'cousin princes' has gone there will only be Beatrice and Eugenie out of place.

Thank you. I think this saga is becoming very damaging for our nation as a whole and it needs to be reined in.

I quite agree that a break would be for the best. I think Harry is dealing with some serious issues and although I'm not a fan of his I do not wish any ill upon him or his family. He needs some time to sort things through and decide what direction he would like his family to take.
 
  • #310
BBM : I'm hesitant to post this as I don't particularly want to invite drama and H and M seem to be a bit of a divisive topic. But I'm going to throw caution to the wind and say how I feel, I'm sure some will agree with me and some won't.

As a British taxpayer there is a lot of commentary on SM and even on this thread that I find mildly offensive. As I've said before, the Royal Family do things in a very particular way in order to ensure the continuity and the stability of the Monarchy. At a time when our country is deeply divided, when we haven't had a stable government for a number of years, we need a stable Monarchy more than ever. The Royal Family are bigger than any one person, it is a centuries old establishment. Harry and Meghan are minor members of this family, whether they like it or not, they are in no position to be changing or "modernizing" anything, this is simply far above their station. The Queen is our Head of State ably assisted by Charles, William and their wives, that is the way it is and the way it will remain.

British taxpayers are compelled by law, to give money to the Royal Family and in return we expect a certain standard of behaviour. If Harry and Meghan are unable or unwilling to adhere to that, they can renounce their titles and remove themselves. If they want to be working royals then they need to toe the line, they can't have it both ways.

We all watched Harry at his mother's funeral, we cried with him and for him. And also for his brother, William who as a lot of people appear to forget, also lost his mother. Diana had two sons. We were delighted when he met Meghan and when they got engaged we welcomed her with open arms and we lined the streets to wish them well on their wedding day.

Meghan has NOT been treated any more unfairly by the press than any other incoming member of the Royal Family. Catherine had her private life dissected, she was called names like social climber, peasant, commoner. Her family were judged, her mother was accused of being pushy, of having sent Catherine to St. Andrew's to "snare" Prince William. She was called desperate, Waity Katie. She's been called lazy and work-shy. She had hundreds of paparazzi following her around every time she left the house. She has had embarrassing family members in the press (Uncle Gary anyone?) Beatrice and Eugenie have had their lives scrutinised, every fashion or make up choice they have ever made has been pored over, they have been known and referred to for years as the ugly step-sisters.

I resent that anyone who doesn't connect with Meghan is automatically labelled as a bully, or worse a racist. Great Britain is a diverse society, we have all cultures and faiths here and it is one of our greatest strengths. Instead of celebrating this, Harry as someone who supposed to be a representative of our country, would rather perpetuate the myth that we are a country of racist bullies. This could not be further from the truth.

Harry and Meghan are NOT hounded by the press. The only time Harry and Meghan are ever seen in public is when Harry and Meghan want to be seen in public. Have a look on you tube at the videos of Catherine being followed by paparazzi. Nothing like this has happened to Meghan.

HM The Queen lived a personal tragedy at a young age, but she dealt with it, and everything that followed, with the utmost grace and dignity.

Commenting on Meghan's bridal make up is not bullying. When her makeup artist is appearing on any daytime tv show that will have him to discuss that exact thing, people are obviously going to comment on it. Some will like it, some will not. If Meghan is unhappy with this, perhaps she should ask her friends to be a little more discreet.

I've never been a fan of Harry, his behaviour has been disgraceful at times when he was plenty old enough to know better. I won't go into it but the pictures are easy to find if you wish.

It is my opinion that our Royal Family is far too big, with too many hangers on who feel they are entitled to special treatment and tax payers money. They are public servants, we do not bow down to them. I resent the view that we are supposed to view Meghan as some kind of hero doing so many great things for us lowly peasants. I've seen people from overseas commenting on how much she has improved our lives, although I've seen no tangible evidence of this.

Of course, this is all IMO. I do not presume to think that I speak for all Brits.

That was a very informative and thoughtful commentary, AllyBee.

One thing is for sure, people are passionate about the monarchy and the BRF.

I find myself wishing for a royal family for the USA! So, this thread makes it feel like I’m in touch with some long lost cousins, the Welsh, Scottish, and Irish heritage in my family.

I think H&M rushed into their marriage for a whole bunch of ungrounded reasons. They could have lived together for a few years, tried it out. Charles and Diana had what, nine dates before they got engaged? It really takes time to get to know someone.

Will and Kate were very grounded in their eight years together before they were engaged. And Kate had the time to really think and process what this monumental change would mean for her.

It does seem like the royal family is getting big!

Perception is such a weird thing, especially on SM. Like the Hero myth... I wasn’t aware that Britain needed saving? How ridiculous!

I think, unfortunately H&M have not changed the world, but they have changed people’s minds...
 
  • #311
Despite the fact that I have been one of Meghan’s fierce defenders on the thread, I do find myself agreeing with much of your post. So thank you for your perspective. Your most important point is this one IMO:


BBM

They have an opportunity to regroup and be a unifying force...or not. Here’s hoping they can figure it out. Personally, I think everyone will be better off if they remove themselves and live elsewhere.

Thank you, i was quite nervous about posting that. I don't actually dislike Meghan, although I wouldn't call myself a fan. She is not a Royal and I feel as though she should have been guided better, or better prepared for what was expected.
 
  • #312
Princess Anne and Mark/Tim have managed to quietly get on with their lives, raise grounded kids and enjoyed life out of the public while still fulfilling some royal duties. Harry, in the same position as Anne, needs to do exactly the same. He has at least made a start in that direction by giving Archie a non-royal name, just like Anne did.
 
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BBM : I'm hesitant to post this as I don't particularly want to invite drama and H and M seem to be a bit of a divisive topic. But I'm going to throw caution to the wind and say how I feel, I'm sure some will agree with me and some won't.

As a British taxpayer there is a lot of commentary on SM and even on this thread that I find mildly offensive. As I've said before, the Royal Family do things in a very particular way in order to ensure the continuity and the stability of the Monarchy. At a time when our country is deeply divided, when we haven't had a stable government for a number of years, we need a stable Monarchy more than ever. The Royal Family are bigger than any one person, it is a centuries old establishment. Harry and Meghan are minor members of this family, whether they like it or not, they are in no position to be changing or "modernizing" anything, this is simply far above their station. The Queen is our Head of State ably assisted by Charles, William and their wives, that is the way it is and the way it will remain.

British taxpayers are compelled by law, to give money to the Royal Family and in return we expect a certain standard of behaviour. If Harry and Meghan are unable or unwilling to adhere to that, they can renounce their titles and remove themselves. If they want to be working royals then they need to toe the line, they can't have it both ways.

We all watched Harry at his mother's funeral, we cried with him and for him. And also for his brother, William who as a lot of people appear to forget, also lost his mother. Diana had two sons. We were delighted when he met Meghan and when they got engaged we welcomed her with open arms and we lined the streets to wish them well on their wedding day.

Meghan has NOT been treated any more unfairly by the press than any other incoming member of the Royal Family. Catherine had her private life dissected, she was called names like social climber, peasant, commoner. Her family were judged, her mother was accused of being pushy, of having sent Catherine to St. Andrew's to "snare" Prince William. She was called desperate, Waity Katie. She's been called lazy and work-shy. She had hundreds of paparazzi following her around every time she left the house. She has had embarrassing family members in the press (Uncle Gary anyone?) Beatrice and Eugenie have had their lives scrutinised, every fashion or make up choice they have ever made has been pored over, they have been known and referred to for years as the ugly step-sisters.

I resent that anyone who doesn't connect with Meghan is automatically labelled as a bully, or worse a racist. Great Britain is a diverse society, we have all cultures and faiths here and it is one of our greatest strengths. Instead of celebrating this, Harry as someone who supposed to be a representative of our country, would rather perpetuate the myth that we are a country of racist bullies. This could not be further from the truth.

Harry and Meghan are NOT hounded by the press. The only time Harry and Meghan are ever seen in public is when Harry and Meghan want to be seen in public. Have a look on you tube at the videos of Catherine being followed by paparazzi. Nothing like this has happened to Meghan.

HM The Queen lived a personal tragedy at a young age, but she dealt with it, and everything that followed, with the utmost grace and dignity.

Commenting on Meghan's bridal make up is not bullying. When her makeup artist is appearing on any daytime tv show that will have him to discuss that exact thing, people are obviously going to comment on it. Some will like it, some will not. If Meghan is unhappy with this, perhaps she should ask her friends to be a little more discreet.

I've never been a fan of Harry, his behaviour has been disgraceful at times when he was plenty old enough to know better. I won't go into it but the pictures are easy to find if you wish.

It is my opinion that our Royal Family is far too big, with too many hangers on who feel they are entitled to special treatment and tax payers money. They are public servants, we do not bow down to them. I resent the view that we are supposed to view Meghan as some kind of hero doing so many great things for us lowly peasants. I've seen people from overseas commenting on how much she has improved our lives, although I've seen no tangible evidence of this.

Of course, this is all IMO. I do not presume to think that I speak for all Brits.
I think many people agree with you, the awkwardness is what to do with the current generation of princes and princesses who grew up with a sense of entitlement to public money and royal status. It's probably pretty awkward to tell Harry that, while he used to be very important, now that William has kids, he's purely a minor royal. Also very difficult to get that message to the press: even a news release saying Her Highness thanks Harry for his service and has given him a nice wedding, but he will be moving on and the press should take no notice of him and his pretty wife, definitely wouldn't work!
 
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That was a very informative and thoughtful commentary, AllyBee.

One thing is for sure, people are passionate about the monarchy and the BRF.

I find myself wishing for a royal family for the USA! So, this thread makes it feel like I’m in touch with some long lost cousins, the Welsh, Scottish, and Irish heritage in my family.

I think H&M rushed into their marriage for a whole bunch of ungrounded reasons. They could have lived together for a few years, tried it out. Charles and Diana had what, nine dates before they got engaged? It really takes time to get to know someone.

Will and Kate were very grounded in their eight years together before they were engaged. And Kate had the time to really think and process what this monumental change would mean for her.

It does seem like the royal family is getting big!

Perception is such a weird thing, especially on SM. Like the Hero myth... I wasn’t aware that Britain needed saving? How ridiculous!

I think, unfortunately H&M have not changed the world, but they have changed people’s minds...

BBM : we have our issues at the moment but we're doing alright :=) I find it bizarre that I would be expected to curtsy to someone who I had never heard of 5 minutes ago just because of who she married. There are an awful lot of members of the Royal Family I would not dream of bending at the knee for and only a handful I would. Respect is earned.
 
  • #315
Thank you, i was quite nervous about posting that. I don't actually dislike Meghan, although I wouldn't call myself a fan. She is not a Royal and I feel as though she should have been guided better, or better prepared for what was expected.

Harry's impetuous. He fell for the charming American girl and decided (apparently against family advice) that he would hurtle headlong into marriage. As others have said, Kate had YEARS with William and his family, and many more years before that knowing full well how things worked.

I am not at all surprised Meg is struggling. Taken from where she was to where she is now in a matter of months, who wouldn't?
 
  • #316
Well, if Harry renounced his title and they go
off to live a private life, how will they survive
financially if they don't continue to be paid for their royal duties?
Meghan certainly doesn't have family wealth to fall back on, does Harry?
 
  • #317
Ohhhhh. News at 10 - Harry confirms "on different paths" with William. Meghan reveals her British friends warned her against marrying Harry as the British tabloids would destroy her. She says she has tried and tried to do things the royal way but the "stiff upper lip is really damaging". Ouchie.

If these are direct statements from Meghan rather than “insiders say,” it’s definitely TMI and I’m disappointed that she would say these things publicly. It’s what my mother used to call “airing your dirty laundry” and it was taboo in her opinion. Although she was rather obsessive about her privacy, I do lean more in that direction and away from over-sharing.
 
  • #318
Well, if Harry renounced his title and they go
off to live a private life, how will they survive
financially if they don't continue to be paid for their royal duties?
Meghan certainly doesn't have family wealth to fall back on, does Harry?

I believe Harry has a large trust from his great-grandmother and other inherited money. There was a post recently about that.
 
  • #319
Well, if Harry renounced his title and they go
off to live a private life, how will they survive
financially if they don't continue to be paid for their royal duties?
Meghan certainly doesn't have family wealth to fall back on, does Harry?

Harry inherited around $16 million dollars from his mother so I'm sure they'll be fine. If not, they could also consider a job like everybody else.
 
  • #320
I haven't watched the documentary, did she really that about the stiff upper lip? If so, that is insulting!
 
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