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  • #461
IF they did break up would the press do a turnaround or become more vicious in their victory.
I shall never forget the tabloids worldwide saying Harry wasn’t Charles child and he had to listen and live that filth.

He has every damn right to despise the media! Leave him alone, he’s been through enough.
Unfortunately the royals need the media and he is in a hard place.

You're right! How hard must that be for a kid?!

Harry had an expression during that documentary that was so Prince Philip! I understand people joking about it in private, but there's no basis to those claims, and that was an extra layer of cruelty on the young Harry after losing his mum.
 
  • #462
I dintd think they will break up yet. But l do think they might not come back if they go to the US. At least not in 6 weeks, anyway.
 
  • #463
Just had to comment on this!

Well there’s no way they just accidentally spontaneously divulged all that personal information about how miserable they are and how it’s everyone else’s fault. That was calculated and I just wonder what the goal is. What are they setting up? I think it’s probably one of two things. Either they are laying grounds for divorce OR they’re going to exit royal life together. I do believe their unhappiness is real, but I don’t believe for a second that they just suddenly felt moved to share their deepest thoughts on a documentary about something else.

I’m inclined to think MM has convinced PH to leave his royal life and move to the US, but I don’t think he’ll be happy with that in the future. Who knows.

I wish them the best and hate to see people so unhappy, but their boo hooing about their sad, royal lives is really really annoying and I think whatever they’re trying to accomplish is backfiring. MOO!
 
  • #464
IF they did break up would the press do a turnaround or become more vicious in their victory.
I shall never forget the tabloids worldwide saying Harry wasn’t Charles child and he had to listen and live that filth.

He has every damn right to despise the media! Leave him alone, he’s been through enough.
Unfortunately the royals need the media and he is in a hard place.

I agree, the tabloids have not been kind to Harry, at times. My heart breaks for the unkindness he has/is suffering.

The media is out to make a profit. a business, much like the Royal family is a business. It will print the good and the bad.

Its hard to try to live in two different worlds... privacy one day and front and center with causes the next day. Everybody gets confused, its human nature.

I think Meghan and Harry need a long break from public appearances and the media. He is suffering greatly, fearing a repeat of his mothers death. He needs time to adjust to marriage, a new house and a baby. Three major life events in less than 18 months. In their business world, developing a new foundation, three different PR firms, and changing staff. They have to be near the breaking point.

This is clearly a cry for help. I hope Meghan and Harry do not play this out publicly. It will not end well.

I so hope they will take time for just family and heal. Its just to much to take on world problems, when your heart is hurting.
MOO...
 
  • #465
When I say gag order, I don't mean on Harry and Meghan themselves. I mean on the press. They won't but it would be a relief if they did. This drama needs shutting down, for everyone's sake.

When they choose to include in their public-seen world wide documentary and express grave, troubling details about their suffering, people are going to respond.

They wanted everyone to know. This is not the fault of public opinion, Harry and Meghan made it public.

Most of us are very concerned about Harry. A royal job may be to much for him. It may be creating PTSD related to his mother's death.
 
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I agree, the tabloids have not been kind to Harry, at times. My heart breaks for the unkindness he has/is suffering.

The media is out to make a profit. a business, much like the Royal family is a business. It will print the good and the bad.

Its hard to try to live in two different worlds... privacy one day and front and center with causes the next day. Everybody gets confused, its human nature.

I think Meghan and Harry need a long break from public appearances and the media. He is suffering greatly, fearing a repeat of his mothers death. He needs time to adjust to marriage, a new house and a baby. Three major life events in less than 18 months. In their business world, developing a new foundation, three different PR firms, and changing staff. They have to be near the breaking point.

This is clearly a cry for help. I hope Meghan and Harry do not play this out publicly. It will not end well.

I so hope they will take time for just family and heal. Its just to much to take on world problems, when your heart is hurting.
MOO...
I would think if they wanted privacy, peace and quiet - they could go to Balmoral or even Windsor Castle?
 
  • #467
".....I tried, I really tried....just existing, not living...not thriving....."
Somebody has started to have grave reservations about this relationship/marriage.
So who's really the most 'unhappy'?
Who's demanding the changes?

Reading between the lines I sense they may be headed for a breakup. they can blame it on mental illness, the press, the harsh criticism of
the Royal Family etc, but I believe reality of
the day to day circumstances and failure to adjust willingly to the life the two have created
is causing this breakdown of the marriage.
They both need to look in the mirror for the
reasons they're so unhappy.

Yes, MM was announcing the breakup in her
interview. This marriage has crashed and burned.
 
  • #468
I would think if they wanted privacy, peace and quiet - they could go to Balmoral or even Windsor Castle?
I know, I know, I know.

I would link there were numerous large royal estates in the UK where they could be a family.

I am still at a loss as to why they did not go to Balmoral in the summer to spend time with her. I dont buy the "Archie is too small to travel" bit, as they had no problem jetting him down to Nice to visit Elton John. I think it was an unbelieveable snub and I'm still rather shocked that Harry would have supported the family having the experience of a lovely quiet bonding time with the The Queen, Prince Philip, Prince Charles, and Camilla.
 
  • #469
Why couldn't they have just left the commentary of the Africa trip about the people of Africa, not about them?
 
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  • #471
Well if MM is orchestrating the breakoff from
H's family and the Royals, she doing a great job of it.
It's like living out the 'in-law' jokes. MM doesn't
understand welcoming and accepting your husband's family. She's set up a "them against me" scenario. She simply does not understand
or encourage family relationships. She just
doesn't possess the skills or the desire based
on her own upbringing and family history.
And it looks like H is like her lap dog, if he's
allowing her to call the shots.
The personal dynamics of each is now showing.
Her personality and his own personality.
Maybe her plan all along was to get him to move to Ca. which is in her comfort zone and
far, far away from the RF. that could work for them for a short time but in the long term their
individual problems will surface again.
Yup, I still believe this is all her manipulation.
 
  • #472
Why couldn't they have just left the commentary of the Africa trip about the people of Africa, not about them?
Because it was an opportunity to get their feelings out, otherwise they would never have had the chance to speak about it. #gameplan #PRidea
 
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but what would be her motive to divorce? money? as Archie is an heir to the throne (right?) - is she allowed to take Archie out of the country on her own? I seem to recall that was a fear of Diana's - she wanted to stay in the boys life as an active mother - i'm not thinking this is her set up for a divorce- I think she is needing sympathy from the public. Harry has been in it his whole life - I'm a little surprised that he would be so open but if he's supporting her, then that makes sense to me. Diana and Charles took William to Australia and that created a great deal of warmth and admiration for her IMO - is she trying to replicate some of this? I don't know - but my hope is they now both just get away without any press and try to work on their family. JMO
 
  • #475
I don’t think a divorce is imminent, but she sure sounds like someone who is checked out and miserable in her chosen life. PH has seemed miserable for a while.
 
  • #476
Source 'close to' Prince Harry and Meghan Markle claims couple 'have single-handedly modernised the monarchy' and says palace is 'inexperienced' at how best to 'deploy and harness their value'

Prince Harry and Meghan Markle claim they are | Daily Mail Online

Wow, arrogant much?

Markle can function perfectly well as a wealthy now-top level celebrity in the US and do yoga and promote her causes to no end. Maybe re-start her blog so she assures she is not losing the limelight.

Harry has no funtion in the US, IMHO. His support system is firmly UK-based. I see him looking to Charles for support

Despite their obvious love for their child, I see them splitting in a couple of years, like when Archie starts school. That’s when the patental cultural decisions come into play.
 
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  • #478
When they choose to include in their public-seen world wide documentary and express grave, troubling details about their suffering, people are going to respond.

They wanted everyone to know. This is not the fault of public opinion, Harry and Meghan made it public.

Most of us are very concerned about Harry. A royal job may be to much for him. It may be creating PTSD related to his mother's death.

bbm: yes people will respond. —Discussing personal hardships or grievances like this, in public, can backfire, especially if they haven’t reached out to Harry’s high profile family. Expressed that they are having a hard time.

I have to wonder... Meghan’s father’s side of the family has done just that. Aired it all out in public. And blindsided Meghan.

Do they not see that they are blindsiding Harry’s relatives?

So yes, Harry would be the one who is really conflicted in all of this.

A smarter move, a stronger move would have been to say, yes there are hardships, and we are in therapy, because sometimes you need help in this world. And we support that, 100%.

The feel, the aftermath of airing ones specific grievances is something Diana regretted. And the H&M intimate confessional style feels similar to Diana’s interview.
 
  • #479
Because it was an opportunity to get their feelings out, otherwise they would never have had the chance to speak about it. #gameplan #PRidea
But why was it necessary to get THEIR feelings out?

What happened to all the positive encouraging things they said to all those people in South Africa, Angola, Botswanna, and Malawi who prepared so hard?

Why did both Harry and Markle decide to put THEIR prrsonal issues out there, not randomly, but in what is emerging as a calculated act.

I know they had to file the lawsuit more rapidly than they had planned, as there was an Oct 1 deadline, and Harry was clearly upset over that. But they both could have kept their mouth’s shut and not shut down the effort of everyone who worked so hard on the trip.

I have to believe The Royal Family must be furious about this classless, self-centered act.
 
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bbm: yes people will respond. —Discussing personal hardships or grievances like this, in public, can backfire, especially if they haven’t reached out to Harry’s high profile family. Expressed that they are having a hard time.

I have to wonder... Meghan’s father’s side of the family has done just that. Aired it all out in public. And blindsided Meghan.

Do they not see that they are blindsiding Harry’s relatives?

So yes, Harry would be the one who is really conflicted in all of this.

A smarter move, a stronger move would have been to say, yes there are hardships, and we are in therapy, because sometimes you need help in this world. And we support that, 100%.

The feel, the aftermath of airing ones specific grievances is something Diana regretted. And the H&M intimate confessional style feels similar to Diana’s interview.
Yes!! especially in light of their mental health initiative. maybe that's their angle though?
 
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