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  • #201
I wish I could be as good of a person as you. I just see it as whining - poor pitiful me. Glad you have an open heart.
It is just whining lol. Having an infant is not that difficult. Regular people have been doing it since...well...always. Without any help at all, much less round the clock everything. Ridiculous.
 
  • #202
I see Harry and his wife as representing what too many younger people do these days-a sense of entitlement-- sharing too much information- and incessantly talking about themselves and complaining --- it is not a pretty sight!
 
  • #203
I might add that I think MM in particular has that sense of entitlement: part of that sense comes from her being a movie star---- sort of like being a diva (if you will)- I don't think Harry is naturally like that but I think he is deeply under the influence of MM--- and so now he has that sense of entitlement (above and beyond being part of the Royal family)- I don't believe that is his nature---- but now it is part of his persona as well.
 
  • #204
I wish I could be as good of a person as you. I just see it as whining - poor pitiful me. Glad you have an open heart.

actually I have been called many names that are not flattering. It has nothing to do with an open heart. It has to do with reality.

I had three children I nursed. I never had post partum depression like many women do, but I suffered from the interruption of REM sleep. Then someone told me why I was feeling so awful The interruption of REM sleep. I could function even though I was not getting anymore sleep.

Getting vomited on. The baby crying no matter what you do. Then of course the things I would have to do that Meghan does not such as clean and cook.

When one is a mother, one is no longer and independent person to do as she wishes when she wishes. Maybe for some it was not hard. For me it was difficult to give up the autonomy I had. A baby does not care what you want.

With all of the media out there and the Fakebook, mothers feel the pressure to ve perfect. Flat stomach practically out of the hospital. Nutritious meals made out of the finest gluten free organic ingredients. Perfect make up and nails. Yoga practice, The table set with adorable dishes and flower arrangements. Need I go on?

Yes, even people such as Harry and Meghan have real life struggles. Not with not having the perfect car or manicure, but rather because of the death of a parent or because having an infant is difficult.
 
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  • #205
It's interesting people saying here that Meghan opening up is bad PR....she is currently trending on Twitter in the U.S. with hundreds (perhaps thousands) of people publicly supporting her and love that she opened up. So is it working? Depends on the audience, I guess! ;) I think we have a tremendously much more favorable view of her here in the states. #WeLoveYouMeghan is one of the top trending hashtags currently.
 
  • #206
Everyone has real life struggles. It is time for me to take a vacation from this thread. I am sick of the whining by people that should not be whining in public. If you need some advice , talk to a professional and not whine to the world. Nothing wrong with needing help that is for sure. Whining to the world is not a good way to get help. I am sick of H and M, their whining, they want privacy, H does not like the cameras (what about the darn documentary). Anyway, I will zip my lips for a while. Continuous stating one thing and acting the complete opposite.
 
  • #207
I might add that I think MM in particular has that sense of entitlement: part of that sense comes from her being a movie star---- sort of like being a diva (if you will)- I don't think Harry is naturally like that but I think he is deeply under the influence of MM--- and so now he has that sense of entitlement (above and beyond being part of the Royal family)- I don't believe that is his nature---- but now it is part of his persona as well.
Meghan is NOT a movie star

She was an ambitious Hollywood C- lister in a Canadian miniseries that certainly wasn’t Masterpeice Theater.
She was not on a fast-track to stardom.a

Few people had heard of her before she started dating Harry
 
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  • #209
Meghan is NOT a movie star

She was an ambitious Hollywood C- lister in a Canadian miniseries that certainly wasn’t Masterpeice Theater.
She was not on a fast-track to stardom.a

Few people had heard of her before she started dating Harry

she was in hollywood attempting to be a star---just because she wasnt famous doesnt mean she doesnt think of herself as a diva
 
  • #210
It's interesting people saying here that Meghan opening up is bad PR....she is currently trending on Twitter in the U.S. with hundreds (perhaps thousands) of people publicly supporting her and love that she opened up. So is it working? Depends on the audience, I guess! ;) I think we have a tremendously much more favorable view of her here in the states. #WeLoveYouMeghan is one of the top trending hashtags currently.

The top comment on the story on the DM is negative and has more than 22,000 likes.
 
  • #211
The top comment on the story on the DM is negative and has more than 22,000 likes.

I wonder if this is an algorithm at work and they want us to see different things. I don't see that at all. But I know it does different based on location, like I said I'm from the U.S.
 
  • #212
I just wonder what Her Majesty thinks of it all it used to be the royals did not speak publicly about their emotions or show them.

Do you think the public will be more sympathetic to the Duchess of Sussex now? Or will it anger people who think she has an easier life because she is not a new mother who has to work full time to survive like most women are?
The general public will probably NOT be too
sympathetic. I can see why.
For both of them, their old lives are gone. They
were both independent, career oriented, self-
absorbed and free to do whatever they wanted
whenever they wanted. They both only worried about themselves.
Enter marriage and being on stage and having to adjust to another adult 24/7 in the same home and then add demanding baby who requires more of the parent also and you have
2 people who feel ensconced within the walls
of the Royal Family. Stifling. Different life.
Of course there will be struggles. But mature
adults make adjustments and move on.
Both H and M were quite self-absorbed and
are 'struggling' to get out of their own skin
and learning that others are important also.
Big change for both. Normal struggles. Time
to adapt, grow up and move on.
 
  • #213
I wonder if this is an algorithm at work and they want us to see different things. I don't see that at all. But I know it does different based on location, like I said I'm from the U.S.

I'm in the US and I can see it. You have to choose the "best rated" tab.
 
  • #214
They've buggered things up a bit. Harry was the UK's favourite royal for years and we were happy he'd met Meghan and fell head over heels and blah blah blah. They've done themselves no favours and they've played the game all wrong BUT that doesn't mean they don't suffer with mental health issues.

Meghan has been plunged into a totally unfamiliar world - at least Diana and Sarah and Kate grew up in royal circles and knew what was expected of them - but Meg appears to have tried to take control and change the rules and it's seriously backfired.

The media has behaved disgustingly and no doubt exacerbated the struggles M&H are having. This thread isn't much better lately. I'd suggest the "haters" go and find somewhere else to hate and let the rest of us witter on about high heels and pretty crowns.
 
  • #215
Speaking of pretty crowns, I’m missing our Research Queen, Keine Engel.

In the midst of the struggles of lives and the world, there’s nothing like a fab Tiara Alert to brighten the day!
 
  • #216
Kate Middleton Admits She Found Motherhood ‘Lonely’
Elizabeth Bennett

Taking a leaf out of Prince Harry’s book, yesterday Kate Middleton also opened up about a difficult topic: the struggles of motherhood.

Normally fiercely guarded about her private life, during a meeting at the Global Academy, the Duchess of Cambridge spoke candidly about how life with young children can be isolating.

‘It is lonely at times and you do feel quite isolated, but actually so many other mothers are going through exactly what you are going through,’ Middleton told the co-founders of Mush, an app that connects mothers.

Middleton advised fellow mothers that sticking together and supporting each other was key.

‘It is being brave enough, like you obviously were, to reach out to those around you,’ Middleton explained.

Last month, Middleton made some similar comments during a speech at the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

‘Personally, becoming a mother has been such a rewarding and wonderful experience. However, at times it has also been a huge challenge—even for me who has support at home that most mothers do not,’ Middleton admitted.

‘Nothing can really prepare you for you the sheer overwhelming experience of what it means to become a mother. It is full of complex emotions of joy, exhaustion, love, and worry, all mixed together. Your fundamental identity changes overnight. You go from thinking of yourself as primarily an individual, to suddenly being a mother, first and foremost.’

‘And yet there is no rule book, no right or wrong—you just have to make it up and do the very best you can to care for your family. For many mothers, myself included, this can, at times lead to lack of confidence and feelings of ignorance.’

Once again, the royals prove they are more like us than we thought...

https://graziadaily.co.uk/celebrity/news/kate-middleton-motherhood-lonely/


I think Kate describes it well. Feeling isolated is a big commonality in motherhood, in parenthood.

I don’t think social media or fame changes that either. Imo.
 
  • #217
Kate Middleton Admits She Found Motherhood ‘Lonely’
Elizabeth Bennett

Taking a leaf out of Prince Harry’s book, yesterday Kate Middleton also opened up about a difficult topic: the struggles of motherhood.

Normally fiercely guarded about her private life, during a meeting at the Global Academy, the Duchess of Cambridge spoke candidly about how life with young children can be isolating.

‘It is lonely at times and you do feel quite isolated, but actually so many other mothers are going through exactly what you are going through,’ Middleton told the co-founders of Mush, an app that connects mothers.

Middleton advised fellow mothers that sticking together and supporting each other was key.

‘It is being brave enough, like you obviously were, to reach out to those around you,’ Middleton explained.

Last month, Middleton made some similar comments during a speech at the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

‘Personally, becoming a mother has been such a rewarding and wonderful experience. However, at times it has also been a huge challenge—even for me who has support at home that most mothers do not,’ Middleton admitted.

‘Nothing can really prepare you for you the sheer overwhelming experience of what it means to become a mother. It is full of complex emotions of joy, exhaustion, love, and worry, all mixed together. Your fundamental identity changes overnight. You go from thinking of yourself as primarily an individual, to suddenly being a mother, first and foremost.’

‘And yet there is no rule book, no right or wrong—you just have to make it up and do the very best you can to care for your family. For many mothers, myself included, this can, at times lead to lack of confidence and feelings of ignorance.’

Once again, the royals prove they are more like us than we thought...

https://graziadaily.co.uk/celebrity/news/kate-middleton-motherhood-lonely/


I think Kate describes it well. Feeling isolated is a big commonality in motherhood, in parenthood.

I don’t think social media or fame changes that either. Imo.
Yes, Kate makes some great points

Which also begs the question: Why did Markle alienate herself from the Cambridges and then give a media interview about the very issue Kate could have helped her with?

I just think that neither Harry nor Markle can have it both ways: Super-secrecy and privacy for Archie then complaining to tabloid media
 
  • #218
Looks like MM is whining again. Yes, having a new baby is very stressful. Hey, she does not work full time, has nannies, cooks, house cleaners, etc. I guess her besties are not asking her how she feels. This is bad PR. Yes, MM, those of us that have children can relate to the stress of parenthood. Most of us don't have endless help either. I am so sick of their whining. Why cannot they just enjoy their newly renovated house and their new baby.

that’s what I would do. What the heck.
 
  • #219
I see Harry and his wife as representing what too many younger people do these days-a sense of entitlement-- sharing too much information- and incessantly talking about themselves and complaining --- it is not a pretty sight!

I completely agree with you. Snowflakes imo. I so agree with that term. And I have 2 sons; 24 and 21. So offended at everything.
 
  • #220
I completely agree with you. Snowflakes imo. I so agree with that term. And I have 2 sons; 24 and 21. So offended at everything.

I see what you guys are saying but Meghan is 38.....she does not even belong in the same generation as them. She is probably close to your age than to your children's (though I won't assume to know your ages! LOL!).
 
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