The British Royal Family - news, views, clothes & shoes! #10

[rosemadderlake]

Yes, Kate makes some great points

Which also begs the question: Why did Markle alienate herself from the Cambridges and then give a media interview about the very issue Kate could have helped her with?

I just think that neither Harry nor Markle can have it both ways: Super-secrecy and privacy for Archie then complaining to tabloid media

Maybe moving to Frogmore was a mistake? While it was said that they did not want the fish bowl of Buckhingham Palace, there is Harry’s family, there. Now, they are living in an isolated island fishbowl away from everyone. -Maybe it’s lonely.

I remember how every so often there would be a story of Kate slipping out to shop for regular things in her dress down clothes. And I think that would be so helpful for Meghan because while she was known in some circles before Harry she also had some anonymity in her life in Toronto. Harry had his cottage on his family grounds and aside from his projects he too enjoyed down time away from the BRF press.

I’d need therapy in how to deal with the kind of relentless speculation and press that follows them around. No matter what they do there is an overwhelming negative press cloud at the moment. And it goes beyond my opinion... certain royals are not my cup of tea.

Do I think oversharing has its perils? Yes I do. But I am from a generation before social media.

 

[Dontknow?]

She's been scrutinized here and everywhere else. I'm from the US so not sure if what color she wears is important or not or if her face looked greasy in her wedding photos...

I think she needs to be left alone. Memories of Princess Di came back to me and that is too sad. She's been roughed up via the news.

I wish them all the love and luck in the world.

 

[human]

Kate Middleton Admits She Found Motherhood ‘Lonely’
Elizabeth Bennett

Taking a leaf out of Prince Harry’s book, yesterday Kate Middleton also opened up about a difficult topic: the struggles of motherhood.

Normally fiercely guarded about her private life, during a meeting at the Global Academy, the Duchess of Cambridge spoke candidly about how life with young children can be isolating.

‘It is lonely at times and you do feel quite isolated, but actually so many other mothers are going through exactly what you are going through,’ Middleton told the co-founders of Mush, an app that connects mothers.

Middleton advised fellow mothers that sticking together and supporting each other was key.

‘It is being brave enough, like you obviously were, to reach out to those around you,’ Middleton explained.

Last month, Middleton made some similar comments during a speech at the Royal College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists.

‘Personally, becoming a mother has been such a rewarding and wonderful experience. However, at times it has also been a huge challenge—even for me who has support at home that most mothers do not,’ Middleton admitted.

‘Nothing can really prepare you for you the sheer overwhelming experience of what it means to become a mother. It is full of complex emotions of joy, exhaustion, love, and worry, all mixed together. Your fundamental identity changes overnight. You go from thinking of yourself as primarily an individual, to suddenly being a mother, first and foremost.’

‘And yet there is no rule book, no right or wrong—you just have to make it up and do the very best you can to care for your family. For many mothers, myself included, this can, at times lead to lack of confidence and feelings of ignorance.’

Once again, the royals prove they are more like us than we thought...

https://graziadaily.co.uk/celebrity/news/kate-middleton-motherhood-lonely/

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I think Kate describes it well. Feeling isolated is a big commonality in motherhood, in parenthood.

I don’t think social media or fame changes that either. Imo.

Great article.So exactly true

 

[Mrs Marple]

Royal tour: Something peculiar was going on during William and Kate's Pakistan visit

Thr last couple of paragraphs are interesting. It seems that Harry and Meghan are making everything about themselves st thr moment. I'm not sure if Harry is in a good place mentally either.

 

[maggieg]

Letter from Meghan to her father written at ‘time of great personal anguish’

A “private and confidential” letter from the Duchess of Sussex to her estranged father was written at a “time of great personal anguish and distress”, court documents reveal.

Meghan is bringing legal action against the publisher of the Mail on Sunday and MailOnline over an article which reproduced parts of the handwritten letter to Thomas Markle.

In papers seen by the PA news agency, which outline details of the duchess’s claims, her solicitors say the letter was “obviously private correspondence” which detailed “her intimate thoughts and feelings about her father’s health and her relationship with him at that time”.

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[rosemadderlake]

I think it was beyond horrible that Meghan’s letter to her father got published.

The press knows no boundaries.

That said, wth were her friends doing? With People Magazine? And where are they in the law suit?

I get it. Meghan has a really difficult side of her family. Like a honey boo boo.

But what if that people mag article never got published?

She might be enjoying lesser publicity.

Among my favorite stars is Brooke Shields. Smart, savvy, and oh so gorgeous. She wrote a book about post partum depression ages ago. No stranger to controversy, she is one of the most successful actresses who managed to separate fame from real life. And she got a high top education, too.

Brooke Shields will always be that Calvin Klein Icon commercial, that giant billboard on fifth avenue, — she’s that gorgeous, she’s that magnet, but the reality is she’s a down to earth girl. A smart and funny girl. She didn’t come by that right away, she lived it for a decade or two, but her choices are so grounded.

If I were to steer Meghan to a mentor it would be Brooke.

I met Brooke a couple of times, yes shopping, and all I can say is she’s over the top gorgeous, and super sweet.

Now? Brooke has raised a couple of kids out of the limelight.

So, navigating fame is possible, in America.

What’s her secret? Less is more.

 

[Laughing]

I think it was beyond horrible that Meghan’s letter to her father got published.

The press knows no boundaries.

That said, wth were her friends doing? With People Magazine? And where are they in the law suit?



If I were to steer Meghan to a mentor it would be Brooke.

I met Brooke a couple of times, yes shopping, and all I can say is she’s over the top gorgeous, and super sweet.

Now? Brooke has raised a couple of kids out of the limelight.

So, navigating fame is possible, in America.

What’s her secret? Less is more.

RSBM

Mentor??? Yes, much needed.

Brooke Shields has indeed successfully integrated stardom, fame, and notoriety with a productive life.

Meghan could benefit from her guidance.

Decision made to separate from the Cambridges:

Duke of Cambridge and Duke of Sussex to split royal household

HRH Elisabeth's recommendation:

Royal tapped to be Meghan’s mentor


Two young mothers, married into the BRF, successfully working through the multi-layered transition.

Relatives & neighbors.


Yet Meghan talks to the press....

JMHO YMMV

 

[Mrs Marple]

I didn't think the letter came across that bad; the parts l read made me think Meghan was being genuine. Why wait until now yo take action when it was published in February though?

 

[rosemadderlake]

If I thought American politics was complicated - I have only to listen to Parliment... wth peeps?

Ha, omg, I didn’t understand it back in the day, and I’m afraid not much progress has been made...

But never mind, I still adore all things U.K., England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales.

I just hope whatever you all are doing preserves the incredible history and nuances that define you.



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[rosemadderlake]

Okay, my biggest critique? I don’t like constant playing with one’s hair.

Meghan leave your hair alone! Omg, it’s awful.


This is an epic fail.

Either make it big 80’s hair or go home.

 

[rosemadderlake]

The 80’s.

Radical beauty.

What is so obvious and perplexing is the obvi extensions on Meghan. The conformity. Yikes!

What if she were to go natural?

It might set the earth off its axis!

But, it also might be real.

Another mentor is Alicia Keys. Omg, when she went no make up, I fell in love.


What a beautiful woman.

 

[enelram]

It's like she alienates people on purpose so she can then prove her poor, pitiful me case. There has to be a psychological term for this behavior, but I don't know what it is.

Some say a narcissist accustomed to ALL the attention will play victim when that attention
is diverted to something else (baby, husband, or
others).
She is now a wife and mother. Her spotlight is
to be shared. Especially with a new baby, nobody cares about asking about 'her'. So she's feeling neglected and 'poor me'. Guess
Harry's not filling up her emotional cup.
She's not making him look too good if he's not
making his wife feel happy and fulfilled. Not
that it's his job by any means, it's just the perception nuanced by her comments.

 

[rosemadderlake]

Yeah, like Alica Keys. Just drop the mic.

She’s so beautiful but also a powerhouse of creativity.

You can’t insta that.

Part of the problem is neither Harry or Meghan are creative.

We expect Will and Kate to voice the U.K. and they have.

Harry? Meghan? What’s the point?

I think that’s what they are wrestling with.

 

[rosemadderlake]

I dislike to say it....

 

[Amonet]

I loved Kate's outfits for the Pakistan tour, and William's turquoise outfit.

I don't think Meghan is likely to be expecting again so soon after Archie's birth. They both seem to be loving being parents and learning the ropes and getting to know their little boy. I think they'll probably wait until Archie is about a year old before they start trying again.

 

[Herat]

Decision made to separate from the Cambridges:

Duke of Cambridge and Duke of Sussex to split royal household

HRH Elisabeth's recommendation:

Royal tapped to be Meghan’s mentor


Two young mothers, married into the BRF, successfully working through the multi-layered transition.

Meghan Markle is 38 years old. She is not a naive new bride from a tiny village.

She was given advice by The Queen and the good grace of the Royal Family in attempting to welcome her.

Did she and Harry go to Balmoral this summer to enjoy very private time with the Queen and Prince Philip as well as Charles and Camilla?

NO

Did she buddy up with Sophie Wessex, who is also a non-Royal bride and by all accounts a well-adjusted woman who has had challenges with her own children?

NO

Meghan brought all this on herself by her own (and Harry's) choices.

Despite employing at least 2 separate PR companies and having a retinue of PR people, secretaries, and advisors, SHE chose to go out in front of a tabloid media to discuss what are ongoing personal issues. This was not necessary. She could have used her experiences to support the causes of new mothers and what they need. But she made this all about HER.

I feel for the Royal Family in having to deal with these two. I have to think the other members would be more reserved in their behaviour, not knowing what else H&M will indiscriminately divulge.

 

[mcluver23]

And once again this thread has helped my low blood pressure. Who needs more salt?

 

[human]

Royal tour: Something peculiar was going on during William and Kate's Pakistan visit

Thr last couple of paragraphs are interesting. It seems that Harry and Meghan are making everything about themselves st thr moment. I'm not sure if Harry is in a good place mentally either.

it seems the Queen is part of promoting this.
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Buckingham Palace was helping to promote a documentary about Harry and Meghan's Africa tour releasing clips of Harry criticising the press and Meghan saying how tough it had been for her as a new mum.”

and let us not forget this

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A couple of years ago, he was criticised for being workshy and not knuckling down to his royal duties. He now seems to be more confident and clear on how he wants to use his royal role. Kate also seemed more at ease on this trip.

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

Here is what I think: Meghan & Harry (and yes, even Kate and William) are trying to steer the monarchy in a more casual, emotional direction. It's working in the U.S. but very obviously is not working in the U.K. Which I guess makes sense....it is not us Americans who are helping pay for their lifestyles so why would we care that much. I don't understand yet why Meghan gets more hate than Catherine (for me, they both have their pros and cons, neither are saints). Oh well.

 

[Herat]

I thought Kate's outfits in Pakistan were really lovely. And her shoes were well-chosen