The British Royal Family - news, views, clothes & shoes! #10

[Betty P]

It sure did not seem Meghan and Harry were fragile in Africa. I doubt if William gave a comment on Harry.

When media does any kind of interview, miles of interview are cut and spliced. The media is trying to make a good show.

Harry and Meghan are engaging as people, to me.

Camilla, Charles, Kate and William have all adjusted to the media in a slower fashion. Harry and Meghan were right into the onslaught of social media.

I imagine they think of themselves as nice people who do no harm to anyone. Rather they want to do positive things.

The ugliness must be unreal.

I would find it unusual if the Queen and Charles did not know all about the program. I doubt If Harry would do anything to upset his beloved grandmother

From what I've read, MM has gotten very good coverage from the news media both in the UK and the US. I'm not sure what the whinging is about. With some very rare exceptions, the news media, even the tabloids, have been very considerate and extremely careful about covering Harry, MM and their baby. JMO, because she's mixed race, everyone has been walking on eggshells, being very careful not to say anything negative.

Maybe what she's upset about is social media discussion. There's really not much she can do about that as those are the views of real people out in the real world. Because its anonymous talk, people sometimes say cruel things or start rumors.

But that's social media. Probably the best she and Harry can do is to stop reading social media. Trying to drown it out by spending a fortune on PR firms to get dozens of news stories printed every day isn't helping.

This 6 week break might really help them, especially if they avoid social media. They'll feel much happier and relaxed. JMO, I also think H&M would be much happier if they stopped trying to compete with the Cambridges. Also, if what the news is reporting is accurate, they really need to stop with the talk of their single handed efforts to rescue the BRF from tainted obscurity. Oy, that's an awful thing to say. I hope that's just a rumor.

 

[Amonet]

Part of the risk when telling people how you're really doing inside is that 'some' people will then use that against you and say it's nothing but attention-seeking and the old chestnut of "pull yourself together" along with "but you have a wonderful life and family, and there are so many people worse off than you!"

 

[Betty P]

Part of the risk when telling people how you're really doing inside is that 'some' people will then use that against you and say it's nothing but attention-seeking and the old chestnut of "pull yourself together" along with "but you have a wonderful life and family, and there are so many people worse off than you!"

And all they have to do is stop reading social media. Apparently, people who are addicted to social media say hurtful things like that about others all the time. Most of the world doesn't read that stuff, so just avoid reading it. It's just catty gossip. If they stopped long enough to only focus on the mainstream, traditional media, they would realize the coverage they get is extremely kind and fair.

No one is "papping" them, chasing them around when they do their daily chores, etc. The news media, even the tabloids, have given them a wide berth. They should appreciate that and move on. Until they do that, until they stop with the high price PR wars and planting ugly stories in the news media about other people in the BRF, I don't have any sympathy for them.

 

[firebird]

Part of the risk when telling people how you're really doing inside is that 'some' people will then use that against you and say it's nothing but attention-seeking and the old chestnut of "pull yourself together" along with "but you have a wonderful life and family, and there are so many people worse off than you!"

It's more than a "risk." It's a certainty. So if they're not willing to accept it, it's probably best not to announce how they're really doing inside to 10 million total strangers whose lives will never ever approach being as charmed as theirs - regardless of how they are really doing inside. As we're seeing, the majority of the audience will be like "are you freaking kidding me -- get over yourselves you overprivileged whiners." Really not hard to see it coming. I'm kind of amazed!

 

[they'll get you]

We don’t know how bad someone’s depression really is and these journalists are treading dangerous ground IMO.

We are seeing far too many celebrities and sporting stars suiciding.
Slow down with the nastiness.
They’ll never know or understand what Harry’s been through.

‘Snivelling’: TV hosts war over royals

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

I can't remember who said what but some opinions on random things mentioned:

- I think Meghan means the American media is generally very favorable to them. Much more favorable than the UK press it seems. So I think it's less about the amount of press vs the type of press they will get. I still don't think it will be healthy for them though.
- Harry really needs to stop reading press about himself. Someone from the U.K. please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Kensington Palace screen the press for the royals so they don't have to? So is Harry just doing so on his own for whatever reason? Or is KP just dumping everything into his lap without a care?
- Harry is bothered "every time he sees a camera?" This is very abnormal. He should really be working on himself more before telling others to do so (I know that is easier said than done).
- I hope H&M do not visit Meghan's father. Of course it would do harm to them, not even including the fact he would spill everything to the press. Please remember these are still two real human beings. They have emotions and visiting her father would only bring betrayal and heartache. He doesn't "deserve" to see his grandchild if he can't bring himself to act like a decent human being.

Has anyone thought of the fact that H&M are not "prepping for divorce" but rather they are prepping to leave royal life forever to go off to live in South Africa or the USA?

 

[Kensie]

I can't remember who said what but some opinions on random things mentioned:

- I think Meghan means the American media is generally very favorable to them. Much more favorable than the UK press it seems. So I think it's less about the amount of press vs the type of press they will get. I still don't think it will be healthy for them though.
- Harry really needs to stop reading press about himself. Someone from the U.K. please correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Kensington Palace screen the press for the royals so they don't have to? So is Harry just doing so on his own for whatever reason? Or is KP just dumping everything into his lap without a care?
- Harry is bothered "every time he sees a camera?" This is very abnormal. He should really be working on himself more before telling others to do so (I know that is easier said than done).
- I hope H&M do not visit Meghan's father. Of course it would do harm to them, not even including the fact he would spill everything to the press. Please remember these are still two real human beings. They have emotions and visiting her father would only bring betrayal and heartache. He doesn't "deserve" to see his grandchild if he can't bring himself to act like a decent human being.

Has anyone thought of the fact that H&M are not "prepping for divorce" but rather they are prepping to leave royal life forever to go off to live in South Africa or the USA?

I think PH and MM leaving to go someplace else such as South Africa is a good idea. The Royal Life seems to be too hard for both of them. Out of sight, out of mind might bring them a good life. Will MM like being out of the spotlight?? I am not sure. I just don't get that living at Frogmore Cottage is not secluded enough. Of course, I am not in their shoes. As much as I dislike MM, she does deserve a peaceful life especially since she has a baby.

 

[firebird]

I think PH and MM leaving to go someplace else such as South Africa is a good idea. The Royal Life seems to be too hard for both of them. Out of sight, out of mind might bring them a good life. Will MM like being out of the spotlight?? I am not sure. I just don't get that living at Frogmore Cottage is not secluded enough. Of course, I am not in their shoes. As much as I dislike MM, she does deserve a peaceful life especially since she has a baby.

Harry said in the documentary that it's unrealistic for them to consider living in S. Africa, and it was obvious they'd given it some serious consideration. Which tells me they're planning to move, and my guess is the US.

 

[Herat]

Why wouldn't they lose royal status if they moved the the US, too?

 

[firebird]

Why wouldn't they lose royal status if they moved the the US, too?

Idk, but if they would, I think they're making the case for why they're planning to do exactly that. In the US, they'd still be "celebrities" without the obligations to behave like royals. Indeed, they'd be applauded for it.

 

[gregjrichards]

Why wouldn't they lose royal status if they moved the the US, too?

I don’t know if this would ever happen but the Duke and Duchess of Sussex are not Archie’s legal guardians Her Majesty is so they can’t just take him and move abroad without for good without her agreeing to it.

 

[gregjrichards]

Harry said in the documentary that it's unrealistic for them to consider living in S. Africa, and it was obvious they'd given it some serious consideration. Which tells me they're planning to move, and my guess is the US.

If it was me I would move to Australia where Her Majesty is sovereign and it is part of the commonwealth. I think they would have more privacy there than in the United States.

 

[gregjrichards]

Friends of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have accused the royal family of not giving them the recognition they deserve.

In an astonishing attack, sources claimed Harry and Meghan have “single-handedly modernised the monarchy” yet advisers remain incapable of “harnessing their value”.

Meghan Markle and Harry's pals 'accuse royals of not giving couple recognition'

At least this fiasco is keeping Prince Andrew’s latest allegations off the front pages.

 

[Sherwood Park]

Do you all remember when prior to getting married people who actually knew Meghan Markle described her in the same unpleasant way? And those who were her most dedicated fans called anyone who made notice of this a jealous hater? I remember.
Prince Harry doesn't need to move, he needs to face his issues head on and start listening to those who love and know him best. These are no longer rumors. PH and MM have made a mistake by talking to the press too much because they keep confirming what has been printed in the trashy tabloids. Whoops.

I sometimes wonder if part of Prince Harry's anger with the tabloids is that they are printing things that are actually true? Because this would mean it's an intrusion of privacy rather than trashy tabloid lies. I can imagine someone being paranoid about who they can and cannot trust. This would only increase his known anxiety disorder.

Meghan, you had so many fans rooting for you. Not even a year into the marriage and all this drama.
'I told Meghan she didn't know what she was letting herself in for': Friend who warned Duchess of Sussex over marrying Harry says ex-Suits star 'didn't want to hear any negativity'

 

[Gardenista]

MM said in her interview that she was ok with criticism if it was fair and that she would own it.

Does anyone ever remember her owning anything?

 

[rosemadderlake]

—Think it was a couple years ago when Harry opened up about his grief over his mum. He was very candid. And he credited William for suggesting and supporting him to go a therapist to help him begin to work through the pain he was experiencing.

And then I remember Harry, Will and Kate in a filmed discussion about the journey of grief and their hopes to raise awareness about caring for one’s emotional and mental well being. It was very purposeful and poignant. I fell in love with all of them, again.

So, with the Africa documentary I felt sad for Harry (and now Will) that he feels adrift from his brother.

The Africa documentary is too confusing as it tries to cover too much ground. All the signaling from H&M about their state of mind, the scenes felt too scripted. And people react to that. And, I think that’s really unfortunate as it has overshadowed quite a wonderful trip otherwise.

Finding love, getting married and having a baby can change a lot of things. Hoping H&M can find their way. And, hoping Harry can take the time to sort through his life which obviously seems overwhelming. And Meghan can touch base with her family, and her home country that she must miss on some level.

The BRF is no stranger to drama. They’ll be fine. But I also don’t think QE is going to have the monarchy turned into a reality show.

 

[firebird]

Friends of the Duke and Duchess of Sussex have accused the royal family of not giving them the recognition they deserve.

In an astonishing attack, sources claimed Harry and Meghan have “single-handedly modernised the monarchy” yet advisers remain incapable of “harnessing their value”.

Meghan Markle and Harry's pals 'accuse royals of not giving couple recognition'

At least this fiasco is keeping Prince Andrew’s latest allegations off the front pages.

Does anyone know what "modernising" the monarchy means in this context. What have they done that hasn't been done before?

 

[gregjrichards]

Does anyone know what "modernising" the monarchy means in this context. What have they done that hasn't been done before?

Raising awareness of mental health is part of the modernising of the monarchy. The royal family never discussed issues like mental health or their own personal struggles before the Duke and Duchess of Sussex and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge did. Personal matters were thought to be private you just got on with your public duty and never let on to the public how you were feeling.

The Duke and Duchess of Sussex and the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge also seem to be more engaged with the public when meeting them than other members of the royal family have been over the years.

 

[PinkPrincessPoop]

If it was me I would move to Australia where Her Majesty is sovereign and it is part of the commonwealth. I think they would have more privacy there than in the United States.

What happens if Harry renounces? I know it's very unlikely but I'm wondering just for "fun." Does HRH still have custody? Can she refuse? Or would H&M automatically gain custody in that situation?

 

[firebird]

What happens if Harry renounces? I know it's very unlikely but I'm wondering just for "fun." Does HRH still have custody? Can she refuse? Or would H&M automatically gain custody in that situation?

Imo, regardless of protocol, there is absolutely no way in the world that they would not retain custody of the child. They're not a big enough deal to cause that kind of stir over with William and his three children coming first in line.