The British Royal Family

[HongKongPhooey]

I just can’t celebrate a woman who is as hypocritical as she seems. And, yes, I realize what she seems is in some part influenced by press coverage. But the fact that she about that is in itself hypocritical. She chose a career that depends on getting your face and name out in front of the world. It has nothing to do with a contest between the two duchesses.

With regards to the career, do you mean acting? Because to me, wanting to act does not go hand in hand with wanting all your smalls aired in public by long lens paps. JMO

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I like Kate and I don't like Markle. It's that simple.

Fair enough. I guess this means your comments will be naturally biased then, which is of course your prerogative.

 

[Mominmi]

I've learned some new British terms today...
I hate to say I told you so on Meghan Markle, says CAROLE MALONE

Good article expressing what many feel, I think.

Is there any reason why you refer to Kate as "Kate" and Meghan as "Markle"? It's just an interesting observation I've noticed before so I am curious.

Not directed to me, but I don’t know Kate’s last name nor is she referred to as Kate “last name”.

 

[Mominmi]

With regards to the career, do you mean acting? Because to me, wanting to act does not go hand in hand with wanting all your smalls aired in public by long lens paps. JMO

Yes, I do mean acting. [did she have some other career I’m unaware of?). And I’m sorry but I disagree with you. You might not want it but you’ll get it if you’re more than a 40 year old nightime soap star. And if you want to be big time social media pretense you are going to have to have it or who will know you.

lol at my typo of “pretense”. I meant presence but pretense fits quite well.

 

[firebird]

Fair enough. I guess this means your comments will be naturally biased then, which is of course your prerogative.

I think bias connotes an unfair bias based on feelings rather than objective facts. My "bias" is based on their respective actions from which I've determined that I strongly prefer one to the other, so not really biased. That would be like saying someone is "biased" against people who lie constantly v. people who don't. Not saying Markle is a liar (although she may well be), but just using that as an illustrative example of justified v. unjustified bias.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Good article expressing what many feel, I think.

Not directed to me, but I don’t know Kate’s last name nor is she referred to as Kate “last name”.

She was v much Kate Middleton here in the UK. But ofc neither of them have those surnames now legally anyway, so I guess it is kind of moot

 

[CoverMeCagney]

Not directed to me, but I don’t know Kate’s last name nor is she referred to as Kate “last name”.

She is referred to as Kate Middleton regularly. In fact the Daily Mails's main headline right now says Kate Middleton.

Kate Middleton visits baby sensory class in 24-hour UK tour | Daily Mail Online

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Yes, I do mean acting. [did she have some other career I’m unaware of?). And I’m sorry but I disagree with you. You might not want it but you’ll get it if you’re more than a 40 year old nightime soap star. And if you want to be big time social media pretense you are going to have to have or who will know you.

It's fine, we're all going to disagree at some point

IMO it's a rather sweeping statement to say that all actors want to be in the public eye to the point where their life is no longer secure or private. Again, JMO.

 

[Mominmi]

Guess I should of said I don’t know either of their current last names. My sincere apologies if I’ve offended you. I tended to refer to them as Kate and Megan until someone fussed about people misspelling her name Is it important in some way.

 

[momrids6]

!!! I wouldn't be happy either. As a non working Royal, he can pay for his own security if he wants it. Born into it is not an excuse- the rest of the grandchildren have none or family pays for it. One benefit of being a working royal is security- and they're expected to live there.

Meghan Markle and Harry’s security officers put up in luxury flat at £4,000 cost taxpayers

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I think bias connotes an unfair bias based on feelings rather than objective facts. My "bias" is based on their respective actions from which I've determined that I strongly prefer one to the other, so not really biased. That would be like saying someone is "biased" against people who lie constantly v. people who don't. Not saying Markle is a liar (although she may well be), but just using that as an illustrative example of justified v. unjustified bias.

I respect your opinion, but I think bias is bias. It is irrelevant to me if it's considered unfair or not. But I know that anything put forward from a biased opinion is always going to go against the subject.

 

[Mominmi]

It's fine, we're all going to disagree at some point

IMO it's a rather sweeping statement to say that all actors want to be in the public eye to the point where their life is no longer secure or private. Again, JMO.

I didn’t say she wants to be in the public eye. I said she chose a career which depends on being in the public eye. And yes, definately a generalization. But generalizations are generally made for a reason, don’t you think?

As the mother of a son who is an actor/singer in musical theater who lived in NYC for awhile the lifestyle is something that we muched discussed in the beginning. He eventually returned home and is almost finished with an engineering degree. He decided the lifestyle was not for him. Little privacy did seem not worth it to him. (Along with working your off in hopes of a break... he’s much more like his mama. Needs security. Community theater for him someday.)

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Guess I should of said I don’t know either of their current last names. My sincere apologies if I’ve offended you. I tended to refer to them as Kate and Megan until someone fussed about people misspelling her name Is it important in some way.

Nope. Only that one is referred to by her first name and the other by her surname. In a school or work environment, this would be considered bullying and/or harassment with possible discrimination to answer to, believe it or not. But ofc this is not an employment situation

If a surname is not known, it could be evened out by using first names only.

But the poster explained the reason behind it perfectly, so it's all understood.

JMO

 

[HongKongPhooey]

I didn’t say she wants to be in the public eye. I said she chose a career which depends on being in the public eye. And yes, definately a generalization. But generalizations are generally made for a reason, don’t you think?

As the mother of a son who is an actor/singer in musical theater who lived in NYC for awhile the lifestyle is something that we muched discussed in the beginning. He eventually returned home and is almost finished with an engineering degree. He decided the lifestyle was not for him. Little privacy did seem not worth it to him. (Along with working your off in hopes of a break... he’s much more like his mama. Needs security. Community theater for him someday.)

Good luck to your son, I don't blame him. It would not be for me either.

 

[Mominmi]

Nope. Only that one is referred to by her first name and the other by her surname. In a school or work environment, this would be considered bullying and/or harassment with possible discrimination to answer to, believe it or not. But ofc this is not an employment situation

If a surname is not known, it could be evened out by using first names only.

But the poster explained the reason behind it perfectly, so it's all understood.

JMO

OT... i did not know that (what you said about bullying/harassment having been out of the work force for many years). Interesting.

 

[Sherwood Park]

Probably the same reason former US presidents and their children are still entitled to security for a certain length of time after leaving office. Some give it up sooner than others, depending on how high-profile their lives are. In this case, he’s one of the future king’s two sons. And as Diana’s son, he will always garner a certain amount of attention that some of the Queen’s other grandchildren do not. Diana’s tragic life and death still has an impact on her boys. He did not choose to be born and raised in this unusual situation, and I feel that because his country does still support a monarchy and this life was forced on him, they have a certain responsibility to protect those born into it, especially those who garner much more attention (and he does and still would outside of his choices simply because of who his parents are).

It doesn't work that way in Canada. The RCMP and different departments within the Federal Government have various criteria that is to be met before they provide protection and also for dealing with foreign governments providing protection in the country. It's not as simple as someone being born a prince.

The RCMP is there to provide security for working royals who are here to do work, not those who are here by choice to live a leisure life.

 

[Amonet]

Meghan Markle posts two-week-old pictures of dog rescue centre visit on the same day Kate Middleton launches landmark child welfare campaign

Meghan Markle reveals her visit to dog rescue centre two weeks ago | Daily Mail Online

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A positive thing each duchess has done/is doing, released on the same day--great!

 

[HongKongPhooey]

OT... i did not know that (what you said about bullying/harassment having been out of the work force for many years). Interesting.

Wish I had

Yes, it's my professional field of expertise (for my sins!)

 

[Mominmi]

Can someone point me to instructions on how to insert Images? I can’t seem to do it with the buttons on the thread.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Can someone point me to instructions on how to insert Images? I can’t seem to do it with the buttons on the thread.

You can use the upload a file button, but may have to resize your image if it's too "large"