The case for murder

[Gilgamesh]

The Coronado Patch has been stunningly void of vitriol and nastiness from the suicide posse. I wonder why that is. Where did they go and why did they leave? Strange.

 

[freespeech]

The Coronado Patch has been stunningly void of vitriol and nastiness from the suicide posse. I wonder why that is. Where did they go and why did they leave? Strange.

A couple of theories:

They regrouped to develop the next plan of attack

Jonah fired the PR people

They decided silence was a stronger stratgety for making this go away

They heard "something" and scattered and ran

I dunno. Any guess is a good as another at this point in the game.

 

[K_Z]

A couple of theories:

They regrouped to develop the next plan of attack

Jonah fired the PR people

They decided silence was a stronger stratgety for making this go away

They heard "something" and scattered and ran

I dunno. Any guess is a good as another at this point in the game.

Busy scratching around in their litter box. Where they belong, IMO.

 

[Gilgamesh]

Hilarious

 

[bourne]

A couple of theories:

They regrouped to develop the next plan of attack

Jonah fired the PR people

They decided silence was a stronger stratgety for making this go away

They heard "something" and scattered and ran

I dunno. Any guess is a good as another at this point in the game.

Maybe they were vacationing in the east coast and got trapped by Hurricane Sandy...

 

[Inparadise]

Maybe they were vacationing in the east coast and got trapped by Hurricane Sandy...

We won't hear a peep out of Jonah. Dina on the other hand...........I wonder why there was no publicity over the supposed Maxie's House Halloween Party in the media or on the website.....the only reference was a "thanks" to the donors of goods and services. Seems more than a little odd to me.

 

[bourne]

We won't hear a peep out of Jonah. Dina on the other hand...........I wonder why there was no publicity over the supposed Maxie's House Halloween Party in the media or on the website.....the only reference was a "thanks" to the donors of goods and services. Seems more than a little odd to me.

I assume Dina and Nina were present at the party. What did they masquerade as?

 

[Inparadise]

I assume Dina and Nina were present at the party. What did they masquerade as?

I can't find any referance that a party ever took place.......if you were running a non-profit, wouldn't you have a lot of PR before hand (and after as well) to make people aware of it so that they could attend and donate money? It would appear that Dina and her pals just got some people/companies to donate stuff, but never had a party.

 

[freespeech]

I can't find any referance that a party ever took place.......if you were running a non-profit, wouldn't you have a lot of PR before hand (and after as well) to make people aware of it so that they could attend and donate money? It would appear that Dina and her pals just got some people/companies to donate stuff, but never had a party.

Or they got their free stuff and had a private party.

 

[Inparadise]

Or they got their free stuff and had a private party.

Yes, that is a possibility, but if you recall, Angela Hallier stated that nothing would happen for the cause until the checks were written........I don't think that anything is going to come of Maxie's law. Think about it, who wants their ex to have the social security number of their new partner? I don't think that an ex has the right to that information: it is private. And guess what, if an ex has the right to do a background check on the new partner, then that new partner should have the right to do a background check on the ex as well.......TIT for TAT! Many ex's are not emotionally stable, and there is no telling what they will do, nor how far they will go to make a point. In my experience, my spouse's ex tried to impersonate me, using my SSN and DOB for her own financial gains...........

 

[time]

Yes, that is a possibility, but if you recall, Angela Hallier stated that nothing would happen for the cause until the checks were written........I don't think that anything is going to come of Maxie's law. Think about it, who wants their ex to have the social security number of their new partner? I don't think that an ex has the right to that information: it is private. And guess what, if an ex has the right to do a background check on the new partner, then that new partner should have the right to do a background check on the ex as well.......TIT for TAT! Many ex's are not emotionally stable, and there is no telling what they will do, nor how far they will go to make a point. In my experience, my spouse's ex tried to impersonate me, using my SSN and DOB for her own financial gains...........

Obviously, there are other problems with this. That's when your private information gets turned over to someone who is dangerous. I don't agree with any such law or the intended goals and what comes with them of Dina's nonprofit one bit. However, if it is warranted to investigate the new partner of your ex spouse, then you should be willing to be investigated yourself. And, in this case, Dina should be investigated just as much or more than someone like Rebecca because she was married to a man who had two children from another marriage.

You are right, many ex spouses could be unstable. I had that experience once and I don't care to go through it again. I shiver to think that she would have gotten my SS#, had me investigated, and tangled up in legal gabage´ suggested by Dina's nonprofit.

 

[freespeech]

Yes, that is a possibility, but if you recall, Angela Hallier stated that nothing would happen for the cause until the checks were written........I don't think that anything is going to come of Maxie's law. Think about it, who wants their ex to have the social security number of their new partner? I don't think that an ex has the right to that information: it is private. And guess what, if an ex has the right to do a background check on the new partner, then that new partner should have the right to do a background check on the ex as well.......TIT for TAT! Many ex's are not emotionally stable, and there is no telling what they will do, nor how far they will go to make a point. In my experience, my spouse's ex tried to impersonate me, using my SSN and DOB for her own financial gains...........

First, let me state that I agree with everything you wrote.

Up until now I have not posted my opinion on Maxie's House. However, I never bought into their so called tenets and ideology and consider them to be infeasible, unrealistic and illegal.

Why in a gazillion years would Dina think that anyone should be "entitled" to private information about their ex's new love interest? By the same token you are correct. Fair is fair and all things considered the new love interest should get the "dirt" on the ex as well.

Heck, if the ex is loco the new honey may want to know that and get out while they're still alive. I would find it unerving to know that my honey's ex was on the warpath with my private information.

It will never happen. Too many privacy laws would have too be overturned and like you say how does one know that the person getting the information is mentally stable and not a criminal themselves.

 

[arielilane]

Wasn't the whole purpose of Adam's visit to support his brother, JS? Yet, AS arrives the evening of 7/12/12, has dinner with JS and Rebecca Zahau, then he goes back to the mansion with Rebecca. JS returns to the hospital. Then Adam leaves Coronado just as soon has he can after Rebecca is found murdered, and before Max dies. I just don't get this... What was Adam's purpose to come to Coronado; support JS or something else? jmo

Sorry to threw this here. I didn't want to start a new thread, or may be we should start an "Adam" thread. lol

Welcome back Inparadise. So glad to see you here!

 

[Inparadise]

Wasn't the whole purpose of Adam's visit to support his brother, JS? Yet, AS arrives the evening of 7/12/12, has dinner with JS and Rebecca Zahau, then he goes back to the mansion with Rebecca. JS returns to the hospital. Then Adam leaves Coronado just as soon has he can after Rebecca is found murdered, and before Max dies. I just don't get this... What was Adam's purpose to come to Coronado; support JS or something else? jmo

Sorry to threw this here. I didn't want to start a new thread, or may be we should start an "Adam" thread. lol

Welcome back Inparadise. So glad to see you here!

IMO, Adam was brought in for a specific purpose........he and his brother were not close. If we knew who made/paid for the plane reservations, and when they were made, that would speak volumes.........interestingly, Adam flew coach, which I found to be surprising..........

 

[K_Z]

Yes, that is a possibility, but if you recall, Angela Hallier stated that nothing would happen for the cause until the checks were written........I don't think that anything is going to come of Maxie's law. Think about it, who wants their ex to have the social security number of their new partner? I don't think that an ex has the right to that information: it is private. And guess what, if an ex has the right to do a background check on the new partner, then that new partner should have the right to do a background check on the ex as well.......TIT for TAT! Many ex's are not emotionally stable, and there is no telling what they will do, nor how far they will go to make a point. In my experience, my spouse's ex tried to impersonate me, using my SSN and DOB for her own financial gains...........

Every time I read something about that absurd basis for a "law"-- entitling an ex-spouse to do background checks on the new love interest/s (ROFLMAO!), I wonder how the whole thing would have gone if REBECCA was entitled to a background investigation on DINA?? All of the domestic violence police reports, etc. Just imagine if Rebecca had confronted DINA about all of THAT during their little meeting at Starbucks??

Let's pretend how that might have gone.

"So Dina, I understand police were called 13 times to your home in Paradise Valley? And how many times did little Max witness that?"

"Can you tell me more about the time you tried to choke Jonah?"

"Can you discuss your use of prescription drugs and alcohol?"

"Can you tell me more about what happened when you caused Jonah to have a broken finger?"

"Have you ever hit Max or abused him?"

"Can you explain more to me about why you defaulted on a $32,500 rent payment in La Jolla?"

"Why did you reach in a car window and try to pull the car keys out of a car Jonah was driving?"

"Can you tell me more about your career, your education, and your failure to obtain a professional license in psychology?"

"What are the terms of your divorce from Jonah that are sealed? I have a vested interest in knowing how all that was settled."

"Why are you still using Jonah's last name if you had such an acrimonious ending to your marriage? Why haven't you changed your last name?"

 

[Inparadise]

Every time I read something about that absurd basis for a "law"-- entitling an ex-spouse to do background checks on the new love interest/s (ROFLMAO!), I wonder how the whole thing would have gone if REBECCA was entitled to a background investigation on DINA?? All of the domestic violence police reports, etc. Just imagine if Rebecca had confronted DINA about all of THAT during their little meeting at Starbucks??

Let's pretend how that might have gone.

"So Dina, I understand police were called 13 times to your home in Paradise Valley? And how many times did little Max witness that?"

"Can you tell me more about the time you tried to choke Jonah?"

"Can you discuss your use of prescription drugs and alcohol?"

"Can you tell me more about what happened when you caused Jonah to have a broken finger?"

"Have you ever hit Max or abused him?"

"Can you explain more to me about why you defaulted on a $32,500 rent payment in La Jolla?"

"Why did you reach in a car window and try to pull the car keys out of a car Jonah was driving?"

"Can you tell me more about your career, your education, and your failure to obtain a professional license in psychology?"

"What are the terms of your divorce from Jonah that are sealed? I have a vested interest in knowing how all that was settled."

"Why are you still using Jonah's last name if you had such an acrimonious ending to your marriage? Why haven't you changed your last name?"

I don't know Dina, but I have friends that do, and Dina would not have liked being questioned like that one little bit. Only one addition to your list of questions would have been something like "So Dina, could you please tell me about when and how your relationship with Jonah began, and what was your relationship like with his former wife Kimberly?"

 

[TorisMom003]

I don't know Dina, but I have friends that do, and Dina would not have liked being questioned like that one little bit. Only one addition to your list of questions would have been something like "So Dina, could you please tell me about when and how your relationship with Jonah began, and what was your relationship like with his former wife Kimberly?"

I was wondering how Dina would have felt if Kimberly had been allowed to have Dina's SSN so she could have a background check done on the woman that would be spending time with her children. I have a feeling that wouldn't have gone over very well at all.

 

[Inparadise]

I was wondering how Dina would have felt if Kimberly had been allowed to have Dina's SSN so she could have a background check done on the woman that would be spending time with her children. I have a feeling that wouldn't have gone over very well at all.

I don't think that Dina, or Jonah for that matter would have liked that. Particularly since they tried to hide Dina's real identity from Kimberly for such a long time after the fact. I mean, why try and hide it unless she had something that she didn't want Kimberly to know.

 

[iSleuth]

Erased Evidence

Alleged suicide trigger voice mail

Alleged suicide message on bedroom door

Jonah's car allegedly used by Nina on the night Rebecca was killed

Bushes and trees beside the hanging balcony

The ground upon which the dead Rebecca was laid for 13 hours

The bedroom carpeting

Home furnishings

Panties, clumps of hair, blood and other evidence not tested

Hollywood Fitness Gym

Medicis Pharmaceutical Corp.

Guest house renters

Witness who saw Dina at the house the night Rebecca was killed

Witnesses who heard a woman scream for help shortly after another witness allegedly saw Dina trying to get into the mansion

Witnesses who heard loud music and/or a party the night Rebecca was killed

Adam Shacknai erased the crime scene

A 9 second segment of Adam Shacknai's 911 call was erased or is missing

Max's body was cremated

Rebecca's body was allowed to decompose for 13+ hours before ME examination

Is the above coincidence or was it premeditated murder?

Wow ! WTG FreeSpeech! You are amazing. TY once again
one question/ comment.

Max was cremated? i did not realize that!::::thud::::

 

[Peaceful]

Wow ! WTG FreeSpeech! You are amazing. TY once again
one question/ comment.

Max was cremated? i did not realize that!::::thud::::

Yes, oddly enough, Max was cremated.