The Crime Scene and Investigation

[atthelake]

I just thought of something! Remember LE putting crime-scene tape back up on Monday July 6th? That was the day of the FUNERAL:

[video=youtube;T4EZOCpYxN4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4EZOCpYxN4[/video]

Why would they put the yellow tape back up on that Monday, after they had just taken it down and released the house on Friday, July 3rd?

Possible reason:

CWW was in town for the funeral, as we all know. Did he go to the house on the previous weekend (July 3,4,5) and joined MS and/or Dr S's brothers in the effort to check the alarm system and why it had not gone off? In the end he used to work for an alarm company before! How convenient and very helpful!

When I talked to neighbors on Jarvis Rd, I had conflicting information regarding MS going into the house with T's brothers versus staying in the car behind. If CWW was the one going inside and MS was staying in the car, then that would explain it.

The house was still under constant observation for days after the (Friday) release by LE. They were parked on the street in front of the house. They would notice anyone entering/leaving the house on Jarvis.

They could have gotten a new search warrant based on something in connection they already had in regards to CWW (partial print/hand), went back, put the yellow tape up and took new evidence to compare against what was left behind by CWW, when he returned for the funeral. The initial finds may have not been fingerprints but palm prints and foot prints. The new evidence may have matched anything found at the crime scene. They may have already had a lead on CWW due to computer emails/ phone/ correspondence.

They then processed and went immediately to MO most likely prior to 7/12 to take CWW into custody. I do not believe the warrant did not go through. I think that was intentionally done to create movement.

Eventually they were able to arrest CWW and JR.

All my opinion of course

-Nin

Going back through to look for something else and seeing many things that now later are relevant

:moo:...

Analogous to Skinner commenting . I didn't think anything s/he had to say was too important but looking back it was very very important the lMANY things that s/he said.

Crime scene put back up on day of funeral ....

This might be something to add to the Forum time line perhaps, even if before it did not make the cut to add ?

It has everything needed to do so including a link ...if moderators looking back think it is worthy of adding.

 

[No it's not]

I was trying to find out, whether there is any space inside the house, where the dogs could have been confined to in order not to hear any barking by any neighbors - if the dogs did indeed bark.

For that I needed the floor plan. After running the permit Nr. and finally locating the original builder of the house ( they have changed their company name since then).
They have either slightly adjusted the initial floor plan, or the Sievers had them customize the plan according to their own expectations.

Plan is very workable, so were would you keep the dogs to avoid them being heard?

Here are the pics, links and some technical data:

Builder sf ---------------------- Sievers sf

2802 under air -------------------- 2885 under air
721 garage ------------------------695 garage
119 finished open porch ----------119 finished open porch
517 lanai --------------------------470 lanai

The Sievers house has more sf under air, which resulted from reducing the garage space slightly, reducing the lanai space to the back ( due to larger bath/room in the back), adding frontal space to the master bathroom. The space as shown in the Lee county permit plan is still proportional to the newer builder's plan. What we do not know is if any doors had been adjusted.

Builder link:
http://www.kayelifestylehomes.com/2015-lifestyle-homes/emerald-bay/

Lee County Permitting:
http://permits.leegov.com/tm_bin/tmw_cmd.pl?tmw_cmd=StatusViewCase&shl_caseno=RES2005-19905

Lee County Property Appraiser:
http://www.leepa.org/Display/DisplayParcel.aspx?AuthDetails=True&FolioID=10294168&LocationDetails=True&PhotoIndex=3&PermitDetails=True&SalesDetails=True&RenumberDetails=True#NumberingDetails


-Nin

Something has been bothering me since I first heard it. Perhaps it was just a general comment. But..
The first neighbor to the South -or to the right side-of the Siever's house said in this video with FOX4:

"My bedroom window is literally right beside her bedroom window, and I didn't hear nothing."

http://www.scrippsmedia.com/fox4now/news/Neighbors-react-to-Dr-Sievers-death--311097111.html

It sounds as if she is saying Dr Sievers' bedroom is located in one of the two rooms on the South side of the house. The master bedroom however is located on the North side.

So either the neighbor made a general comment referring to the proximity of Dr Sievers' house, or she meant that the doctor was sleeping in one of the 3 bedrooms to the South.

I thought the comment was a bit odd, unless it meant to convey that MS and his wife had separate bedrooms?
Which in itself is not out of the ordinary, when the partner has a snoring problem for example. Or when someone has to get up very early in the morning and does not want to wake up the partner. I can see that the third bedroom on the right side of the house also has a separate bathroom.

Perhaps the neighbor thought Dr Sievers was attacked in her bedroom, in which case her comment would make sense.

So I am tending to take her comment the way she said it, that they may have had separate bedrooms.

What do you think?

-Nin

 

[Wing Ding]

Something has been bothering me since I first heard it. Perhaps it was just a general comment. But..
The first neighbor to the South -or to the right side-of the Siever's house said in this video with FOX4:

"My bedroom window is literally right beside her bedroom window, and I didn't hear nothing."

Perhaps the neighbor thought Dr Sievers was attacked in her bedroom, in which case her comment would make sense.

So I am tending to take her comment the way she said it, that they may have had separate bedrooms.

What do you think?

-Nin

What do I think? I think it depends on what that neighbor meant by using the word "her" bedroom.

"Her" bedroom meaning hers alone, or "her" bedroom meaning the one she shared with her husband Mark?

The neighbor could have just as easliy said "their" bedroom, so maybe the couple did have their own separate bedroom.

But I guess in terms of looking at Mark Sievers as a suspect, it's important to determine they each had their own bedroom to establish the couple had begun drifting apart?

What do you think?

 

[Lilibet]

My first question to the neighbor would be: "How do you know where Dr. Sievers sleeps?" Her statement is very specific, and implies that the doctor sleeps in a bedroom on the south side. How on earth would she know that unless they were close friends? Or did she assume that the master bedroom is on the south side? Maybe she doesn't know the layout of the house as well as she thinks she does.
JMO

Something has been bothering me since I first heard it. Perhaps it was just a general comment. But..
The first neighbor to the South -or to the right side-of the Siever's house said in this video with FOX4:

"My bedroom window is literally right beside her bedroom window, and I didn't hear nothing."

http://www.scrippsmedia.com/fox4now/news/Neighbors-react-to-Dr-Sievers-death--311097111.html

It sounds as if she is saying Dr Sievers' bedroom is located in one of the two rooms on the South side of the house. The master bedroom however is located on the North side.

So either the neighbor made a general comment referring to the proximity of Dr Sievers' house, or she meant that the doctor was sleeping in one of the 3 bedrooms to the South.

I thought the comment was a bit odd, unless it meant to convey that MS and his wife had separate bedrooms?
Which in itself is not out of the ordinary, when the partner has a snoring problem for example. Or when someone has to get up very early in the morning and does not want to wake up the partner. I can see that the third bedroom on the right side of the house also has a separate bathroom.

Perhaps the neighbor thought Dr Sievers was attacked in her bedroom, in which case her comment would make sense.

So I am tending to take her comment the way she said it, that they may have had separate bedrooms.

What do you think?

-Nin

 

[Dmacky]

It just dawned on me how LE would know to look though WALMART surveillance tapes!
I personally never thought it was a hammer that they would be buying at Walmart. JR worked in construction and he would have access to as many hammers as he wanted. Hell everybody's got hammers in their home.
I think it was a disposable or prepaid cellphone. BUT I never could figure out how LE would know to look at surveillance at a certain store.

They searched WW's trailer on July 12. They must have found a receipt from a Fla. Walmart! The receipt would also have the date :giggle:
So Mr. Technology expert probably paid cash for it, and forgot to throw away the receipt? They've got him now with of all things, a paper trail!

 

[atthelake]

It just dawned on me how LE would know to look though WALMART surveillance tapes!
I personally never thought it was a hammer that they would be buying at Walmart. JR worked in construction and he would have access to as many hammers as he wanted. Hell everybody's got hammers in their home.
I think it was a disposable or prepaid cellphone. BUT I never could figure out how LE would know to look at surveillance at a certain store.

They searched WW's trailer on July 12. They must have found a receipt from a Fla. Walmart! The receipt would also have the date :giggle:
So Mr. Technology expert probably paid cash for it, and forgot to throw away the receipt? They've got him now with of all things, a paper trail!

Or perhaps there was a subpoena done it showed an unknown phone number it was a throw away phone. And digital footprint led them to where the phone was purchased? And then they did the surveillance video?

Don't know if that could be done but a great idea that it might have been a cell phone that was purchased.

:thinking:

He could have even used that phone to call his boss back in Missouri to say he could not come in on Monday :giggle:

I'm so looking forward to the document dumps in finding out the answer to so many questions.

Hopefully we will have a local here in the threads that will be able to go and get the information for us all as we had in the Caylee case vs dribbling out by msm who misses small things we wanna know .

 

[RagingClue]

When can we expect 911/Sunshine releases????
I went back to read transcripts, I know it's been said before, but 911 call will be critical to case...

 

[noel leon]

Sheriff Scott's words," ... It led us to JR and WWW, then elsewhere which i can not discus." . I think the envelop led them to JR and WWW, the elsewhere will be the true motive ,and I believe they are crimes of embezzlement of some kind. I can even imagine that LE set a trap for WWW, and I am so hoping that MS has been helping. THe attendance of the funeral being the trap...

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

The house may have been only in Mark's name to protect the asset in case of a malpractice suit. Think this is pretty common for physicians to keep property/assets in their partner's name. JMO

Sorry but if that is the reason, it is legally safer to list the property in an LLC or trust.

 

[noel leon]

Originally Posted by noel leon
Can you think of any strategically legal reason the 911 call would be held back? Have you ever seen a case in which it was?



Yes. One example would be if the 911 caller says something that LE is currently (1) concealing from a suspect or (2) waiting to see if the suspect reveals on his own (showing knowledge of crime details he shouldn't have). Or the 911 caller might have said something that is a lead still being followed up by LE.

This was the expert lawyer said. I can imagine Dr. who discovered said something like, "Teresa has been murdered , beaten to a pulp with a hammer!"​

 

[Bobbywoo]

Something has been bothering me since I first heard it. Perhaps it was just a general comment. But..
The first neighbor to the South -or to the right side-of the Siever's house said in this video with FOX4:

"My bedroom window is literally right beside her bedroom window, and I didn't hear nothing."

http://www.scrippsmedia.com/fox4now/news/Neighbors-react-to-Dr-Sievers-death--311097111.html

It sounds as if she is saying Dr Sievers' bedroom is located in one of the two rooms on the South side of the house. The master bedroom however is located on the North side.

So either the neighbor made a general comment referring to the proximity of Dr Sievers' house, or she meant that the doctor was sleeping in one of the 3 bedrooms to the South.

I thought the comment was a bit odd, unless it meant to convey that MS and his wife had separate bedrooms?
Which in itself is not out of the ordinary, when the partner has a snoring problem for example. Or when someone has to get up very early in the morning and does not want to wake up the partner. I can see that the third bedroom on the right side of the house also has a separate bathroom.

Perhaps the neighbor thought Dr Sievers was attacked in her bedroom, in which case her comment would make sense.

So I am tending to take her comment the way she said it, that they may have had separate bedrooms.

What do you think?

-Nin

I would wonder how the neighbor knew who was in what bedroom. I don't think she would have....the Siever's didn't seem that chummy with any of the neighbors. JMO

 

[Bobbywoo]

Or perhaps there was a subpoena done it showed an unknown phone number it was a throw away phone. And digital footprint led them to where the phone was purchased? And then they did the surveillance video?

Don't know if that could be done but a great idea that it might have been a cell phone that was purchased.

:thinking:

He could have even used that phone to call his boss back in Missouri to say he could not come in on Monday :giggle:

I'm so looking forward to the document dumps in finding out the answer to so many questions.

Hopefully we will have a local here in the threads that will be able to go and get the information for us all as we had in the Caylee case vs dribbling out by msm who misses small things we wanna know .

NIN said in the lawyer q+a post that she is going to get them <3

 

[FightTheOstrich]

CWW was successful in the past at making people disappear. Alligator Alley is just around the corner. Florida is a great place to lose a body. Yet, they left Teresa's body to be found. Which leads me to believe that someone wanted the body found (life insurance).

 

[LvsAMystry]

CWW was successful in the past at making people disappear. Alligator Alley is just around the corner. Florida is a great place to lose a body. Yet, they left Teresa's body to be found. Which leads me to believe that someone wanted the body found (life insurance).

Exactly my thoughts, if it were about CWW feeling threatened she would have just "disappeared"

 

[Satchie]

I suppose I'm also thinking about the house. If they were totally cold-hearted and in it for the money, wouldn't they make something happen outside the house, so that MS could still live there, sell it?

Who's going to want to buy that house?

 

[Satchie]

Who's going to want to buy that house?

Answering my own question, maybe the house is underwater anyway.

 

[No it's not]

'Mark Sievers, who's said to be best friends with Wright, has posted No Trespassing signs on the Jarvis Road property in Bonita Springs.

The signs, neighbors say, simply lead to an uneasy feeling.'

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30119581...-for-wright-to-avoid-extradition#.VgYD7Jcl9QJ

-Nin

 

[No it's not]

NIN said in the lawyer q+a post that she is going to get them <3

Yes

-Nin

 

[FightTheOstrich]

I suppose I'm also thinking about the house. If they were totally cold-hearted and in it for the money, wouldn't they make something happen outside the house, so that MS could still live there, sell it?

Who's going to want to buy that house?

MS may not have an issue living in the home but for now while he's being watched he may just be keeping up the appearance of the grieving spouse.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

Answering my own question, maybe the house is underwater anyway.

Could be and the house probably would have been difficult to unload before the murder. Don't real estate experts always say to buy the smallest house in the best neighborhood you can afford?