The Croslins moved out - will the sale help make bond?

[Gracenote]

Gosh I would hate to be her and have every move I make dissected on the internet. I think I would try to move to France or something.

 

[Lexington]

I hope that Lindsey realizes that if she bails Tommy out, she will have Lisa and Hank Sr. living in the condo also. She will be bringing all of her problems with her. Second verse, same as the first.

 

[Dr. Know?]

If Lindsey sales, how much is that property worth in cash???

Where is Hank and Lisa???

I just read this article about Hank Sr. & Lisa:

Final Connection To Haleigh Cummings Leaves Neighborhood

SATSUMA, Fla. -- Later Wednesday, relatives of Haleigh Cummings will hold a candlelight vigil in the Satsuma neighborhood where she vanished a year ago.

But after the ceremony, there will be no one related to Haleigh living in the neighborhood. The final connection to the family moved out last weekend.

Ronald Cummings lived in a trailer with his girlfriend, Misty, a year ago when the girl disappeared. Deputies made the trailer off-limits for weeks, and her family never moved back into the home in the Satsuma neighborhood near Highway 17.

Misty's brother, Tommy Croslin, and her father, Hank Croslin Sr., lived about 100 yards away in the same neighborhood.

But neighbors say Hank Croslin Sr. moved out last Saturday, leaving behind some broken furniture and toys on the road. The seven neighbors First Coast News talked to Tuesday said they were glad all the relatives are gone.

"They were a nuisance to the neighborhood," said neighbor Stephanie Santos. "They were very scary to the kids."

more at link,

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=151835&catid=3

 

[grandmaj]

Well if she has signed her rights away to the property..... by this quit claim I guess unless Grandpa helps her out this property will not be used for collateral. She no longer owns it.

 

[Patty G]

OK so someone help me understand this court docket. I don't understand the secured debt part. Anyone help me? Thanks Lurker so her name was on another property and she signed off on it? Interesting.

Anyone know what this means?
Says on the 28th of January a secured bond was set?


Details:

UCN: 542010CF000164XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-22 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias


Date # Docket Description
2010-01-22 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. L SMITH (1/19/10)

2010-01-22 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2010-01-22 1 BURGLARY OF DWELLING

2010-01-22 1 GRAND THEFT

2010-01-22 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $5,004.00 TJL

2010-01-22 2 BOND SET AT $2,504.00

2010-01-26 3 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

2010-01-26 4 FIRST APPEARANCE FORM

2010-01-26 5 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY

2010-01-26 5 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY

2010-01-26 6 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF

2010-01-26 6 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS

2010-01-26 6 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)

2010-01-26 7 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF

2010-01-26 7 SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)

2010-01-26 7 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL

2010-01-28 8 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

2010-01-28 8 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING

2010-01-28 8 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2010-01-28 8 CT I - $5004 AND CT II $2504 SECURED BOND SET

2010-01-28 8 ADD ON CHARGES

ETA: It is showing that a bond amount which had been previously revoked is now bondable. Only one of Tommy's charges are not bondable that is the theft charge and he has not been to court.

Where is it showing that a previously revoked bond is now bondable?

 

[nforsee]

:bow:

I hope that Lindsey realizes that if she bails Tommy out, she will have Lisa and Hank Sr. living in the condo also. She will be bringing all of her problems with her. Second verse, same as the first.

AMEN

 

[passionflower]

I just read this article about Hank Sr. & Lisa:

Final Connection To Haleigh Cummings Leaves Neighborhood

SATSUMA, Fla. -- Later Wednesday, relatives of Haleigh Cummings will hold a candlelight vigil in the Satsuma neighborhood where she vanished a year ago.

But after the ceremony, there will be no one related to Haleigh living in the neighborhood. The final connection to the family moved out last weekend.

Ronald Cummings lived in a trailer with his girlfriend, Misty, a year ago when the girl disappeared. Deputies made the trailer off-limits for weeks, and her family never moved back into the home in the Satsuma neighborhood near Highway 17.

Misty's brother, Tommy Croslin, and her father, Hank Croslin Sr., lived about 100 yards away in the same neighborhood.

But neighbors say Hank Croslin Sr. moved out last Saturday, leaving behind some broken furniture and toys on the road. The seven neighbors First Coast News talked to Tuesday said they were glad all the relatives are gone.

"They were a nuisance to the neighborhood," said neighbor Stephanie Santos. "They were very scary to the kids."more at link,

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/topstories/news-article.aspx?storyid=151835&catid=3

BBM oh my...........great article!!!
There used to be a neighbor that was a WS'er .........wonder if he was interviewed? He thought RC was great neighbor IIRC

 

[grandmaj]

Where is it showing that a previously revoked bond is now bondable?

2010-01-28 8 CT I - $5004 AND CT II $2504 SECURED BOND SET

These were the two bonds revoked when he was arrested on the drug charges. It appears they are reset. Based on this court docket and compared to his PC booking which Dr. Know? also followed my post with.

When you pull up Tommy's PC booking record the only thing showing 0 bond now is the new charges that he has not been to court on yet. Note the only 0 is for the new charges on theft. Important to note once the bond for that theft charge is set he will be bondable!

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758545&IMG=59423

 

[Tom'sGirl]

A bit of real estate info to help out:

Unless a mobile home is on a permanent foundation, it is owned much like a motor vehicle. There are tags that need to be paid through the Dept. of Motor Vehicles and there would be an ownership registration like a motor vehicle.

Any DEEDS are on the property and wouldn't include the MH - UNLESS it is on a permanent foundation.

I was in real estate for 20 years. Hope this helps the sleuthing! :blowkiss:

This may be true in Florida, but not the case in my State and hasn't been for many, many years. DMV has nothing to do with the sale of a Mobile Home, it is taxed under Personal Property just like a home yearly.

 

[grandmaj]

Good Lord these court records and bonds do not give enough information. But it appears that Tommy's lawyer at this point is working toward getting his bonds set. Twall you may be right on this one!!!!!

I'm wondering if the one 0 bond is for the gun theft or the theft of the occupied building.

One thing I believe we will see is once these trafficing charges get before a judge we will see bond reductions. They seem high. Not just for Tommy but for everyone.

 

[kiki the parrot]

I think its sad to do all of this wrangling to get someone out who is just going right back in...Take the money and run honey! use it for a divorce lawyer, and feed your kids!

kelly you are makin way too much sense lol.

arrot:

 

[twall]

Here is the court docket for Tommy's September grand theft charge from the elderly blind man-stolen gun that was returned. The bond was revoked and not re-set.

UCN: 542009CF001653XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-09-14 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-09-14 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. KEN TAYLOR (8/19/09)

2009-09-14 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2009-09-16 3 ARREST REPORT: GRAND THEFT (9/15/2009)

2009-09-16 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

2009-09-16 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

2009-09-16 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2009-09-16 4 $50,000.00 SECURED BOND SET

2009-09-16 5 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

2009-09-16 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING

2009-09-16 7 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

2009-09-21 8 LETTER TO JUDGE HEDSTORM FROM LINDSY CROSLIN

2009-09-24 9 STIPULATION AND ORDER ON BOND

2009-09-25 10 $5004.00 (CITY BEST BAIL BOND) #2220906 (09/24/09)

2009-09-25 10 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE COMPANY OF FLORIDA

2009-10-22 11 INFORMATION (GRAND THEFT (FIREARM)

2009-10-22 12 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (12/02/2009)

2009-10-22 13 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12/02/2009)

2009-10-30 14 NOTICE OF APPEARANCE, PLEA OF NOT GUILTY, AND

2009-10-30 14 APPLICATION TO THE CLERK FOR A COPY OF THE

2009-10-30 14 INDICTMENT OR INFORMATION AND THE ENDORSEMENTS

2009-10-30 14 THEREON

2009-10-30 15 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (12/02/2009)

2009-11-06 16 NOTICE TO DEFENDANT (12/03/2009)

2009-11-06 17 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (12/03/2009)

2009-11-06 18 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (12/03/2009)

2009-12-03 19 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER

2009-12-03 19 ON MOTION OF DEFENSE COUNSEL, COURT ORDERED CASE

2009-12-03 19 CONTINUED TO 01/14/2010

2009-12-03 20 NOTICE OF INTENT TO PARTICIPATE IN DISCOVERY

2009-12-08 21 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (01/14/2010)

2009-12-08 22 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (01/14/2010)

2010-01-13 28 STATE'S DISCOVERY EXHIBIT, WITNESS LIST

2010-01-13 24 DEMAND FOR RECIPROCAL DISCLOSURE

2010-01-14 25 PRE TRIAL MINUTES: DEFT PRES, ATT BY JAMES WERTER

2010-01-14 25 CASE SET FOR PLEA DAY 02/17/2010

2010-01-20 26 NOTICE TO ATTORNEY (02/17/2010)

2010-01-20 27 NOTICE TO BONDSMAN (02/17/2010)

2010-01-22 29 MOTION TO REVOKE BOND

2010-01-22 30 ORDER ON STATE'S MOTION TO REVOKE

2010-01-26 31 ORDER REVOKING BOND - DEFENDANT REMANDED TO CUSTODY

2010-02-03 32 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52

2010-02-03 33 ORDER GRANTING MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52

2010-02-03 33 PRE-TRIAL TO BE RESET

Here is the court docket from the drug trafficking charge. There is a $100,000 bond set.

Details:

UCN: 542010CF000147XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-21 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2010-01-21 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. T CAMPBELL (12/22/09)

2010-01-21 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2010-01-21 1 TRAFFICKING OXYCODONE

2010-01-21 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $100,000.00

2010-01-22 3 ARREST REPORT: TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (1/20/10)

2010-01-22 4 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF

2010-01-22 4 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S

2010-01-22 4 RELEASE ON BAIL ("NEBBIA HEARING")

2010-01-22 5 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE

2010-01-22 5 OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL ("NEBBIA HEARING")

2010-01-22 5 PRIOR TO DEFENDANT'S RELEASE ON BAIL

2010-01-22 6 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY FROM

2010-01-22 6 PUTNAM COUNTY, FLORIDA

2010-01-22 7 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

2010-02-03 8 INFORMATION - TRAFFICKING IN OXYCODONE (4G - 14G)

2010-02-03 9 MOTION TO TRANSFER TO DIV 52

2010-02-03 10 ORDER TRANSFERRING CASE TO DIV 52

2010-02-03 11 MOTION TO CONSOLIDATE FOR TRIAL

Here is the docket from the theft charges. He was charged after he was already in jail on the trafficking charge. Misty tattled on him-dish soap, booze, scotch-brite pads theft. There are 2 charges-burglary of a dwelling and grand theft. There is a bond set for both charges.

UCN: 542010CF000164XXAXMX
File Date: 2010-01-22 Judge: EDWARD E HEDSTROM
Defense Atty:

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2010-01-22 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. L SMITH (1/19/10)

2010-01-22 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2010-01-22 1 BURGLARY OF DWELLING

2010-01-22 1 GRAND THEFT

2010-01-22 2 WARRANT ISSUED - BOND SET AT $5,004.00 TJL

2010-01-22 2 BOND SET AT $2,504.00

2010-01-26 3 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

2010-01-26 4 FIRST APPEARANCE FORM

2010-01-26 5 ORDER TO TRANSPORT DEFENDANT TO ST JOHNS COUNTY

2010-01-26 5 FROM PUTNAM COUNTY

2010-01-26 6 MOTION FOR PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF SOURCE OF

2010-01-26 6 BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS

2010-01-26 6 RELEASE ON BAIL (NEBBIA HEARING)

2010-01-26 7 ORDER REQUIRING PRODUCTION AND DISCLOSURE OF

2010-01-26 7 SOURCE OF BAIL PREMIUM AND COLLATERAL (NEBBIA HEARING)

2010-01-26 7 PRIOR TO DEFENDANTS RELEASE ON BAIL

2010-01-28 8 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

2010-01-28 8 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED AT FIRST APPEARANCE HEARING

2010-01-28 8 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2010-01-28 8 CT I - $5004 AND CT II $2504 SECURED BOND SET

2010-01-28 8 ADD ON CHARGES

CURRENT BOOKING-SHOWS CHARGES AND BOND AMT.-IF ANY

Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F $100,000.00
810.02-2b BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED F F $5,004.00
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F $2,504.00
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F $0.00
Total bond $107,508.00

The first line is the drug trafficking charge-bond is $100,000
The second and third lines are the latest burg/theft charges-bond is $5004 and $2504
The fourth charge is from the Sept. theft-bond was revoked

St. Johns Co. is showing no bond for the drug trafficking charge and PC is showing $100,000. I have no answer for that one!

 

[grandmaj]

Twall I'm not going to hit quote and recopy all of that again. Thank You. None of these records are completely in sync. I guess the attorney knows. I hope.

I believe we really won't know what bonds are what until they all have their arraignments which in some cases are set for March.

What a jangled up mess to try to interpret. You are right St. John and Putnam have shown different things, off and on through the course.

 

[Patty G]

Here is the court docket for Tommy's September grand theft charge from the elderly blind man-stolen gun that was returned. The bond was revoked and not re-set.

UCN: 542009CF001653XXAXMX
File Date: 2009-09-14 Judge: TERRY J LARUE
Defense Atty: WERTER, JAMES S

Defendant
CROSLIN, HANK T JR
Alias

Date # Docket Description
2009-09-14 1 COMPLAINT - PCSO DET. KEN TAYLOR (8/19/09)

2009-09-14 1 BOOKING NUMBER: N/A

2009-09-16 3 ARREST REPORT: GRAND THEFT (9/15/2009)

2009-09-16 4 DEFENDANT PRESENT FOR FIRST APPEARANCE HRG

2009-09-16 4 ADJ INS P D APPOINTED FOR FIRST APPEARANCE ONLY

2009-09-16 4 SUFFICIENT PROBABLE CAUSE FOUND

2009-09-16 4 $50,000.00 SECURED BOND SET

2009-09-16 5 AFFIDAVIT OF INSOLVENCY

2009-09-16 6 ORDER APPOINTING PUBLIC DEFENDER FOR 1ST APP HEARING

2009-09-16 7 WARRANT RETURNED EXECUTED

2009-09-21 8 LETTER TO JUDGE HEDSTORM FROM LINDSY CROSLIN

2009-09-24 9 STIPULATION AND ORDER ON BOND

2009-09-25 10 $5004.00 (CITY BEST BAIL BOND) #2220906 (09/24/09)

2009-09-25 10 AMERICAN BANKERS INSURANCE COMPANY OF FLORIDA


CURRENT BOOKING-SHOWS CHARGES AND BOND AMT.-IF ANY

Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F $100,000.00
810.02-2b BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED F F $5,004.00
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F $2,504.00
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F $0.00
Total bond $107,508.00

The first line is the drug trafficking charge-bond is $100,000
The second and third lines are the latest burg/theft charges-bond is $5004 and $2504
The fourth charge is from the Sept. theft-bond was revoked

St. Johns Co. is showing no bond for the drug trafficking charge and PC is showing $100,000. I have no answer for that one!

So then, the $50,000.00 bond for the theft charges back in September were revoked ... correct?

Now Tommy stated his $100,000.00 bond was revoked, is that correct?

I so WANT an answer as to why St John's is NOT showing bond for the drug trafficking and PC is showing the $100,000.00! :crazy:

 

[grace60]

It also could be that she won't sell it right away. If she has enough for the cash bond then maybe the reason Grandpa signed it over to her is so that she can use it as collateral for the rest of the bond. Just all a guess. But I have a feeling someone is guiding her and that makes me feel better.

Correct me if I'm wrong. I thought the Grandparents helped them get into the home when things were going much better for them. I think they paid for it and Tommy and Lindsey were making payments to them. Older mobile homes are almost impossible to finance through a bank. The final straw came with the drug bust. With Tommy in jail and her in-laws mooching off her I think the Grandparents were helping Lindsey financially they told her you have to leave and sign it back over to us so we can sell it and get our money back. That would also get the in-laws out if they didn't want to go. I'm the new owner and your evicted. So hopefully Lindsey will be around people who love her and have common sense and the longer Tommy is in jail the better off she will be. And staying with the Grandparents will keep the in-laws and the outlaws away and she will get a job and meet normal people her own age and she will come to terms with the fact that she is better off without Tommy. Lindsey is a smart woman who got mixed up with the wrong crowd. She got through high school, got married, had 3 children and got through nursing school. Having 3 children and making it through nursing school alone is hard enough......This woman did it with all these drug addicts and all there nonsense around her! She needs to be away from that whole environment to remember what a normal life is like.

 

[MADJGNLAW]

The video Report is so sad. It is good to see and hear from the neighbors. Food for thought. Remember Art had some interviews on his site of some of the parents that were at the bus stop that Monday that claim Misty was the one pick up Haleigh, Santos being one of them.


Video Report: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video...ghborhood/50619441001/50624658001/65869876001

 

[gibby207]

The video Report is so sad. It is good to see and hear from the neighbors. Food for thought. Remember Art had some interviews on his site of some of the parents that were at the bus stop that Monday that claim Misty was the one pick up Haleigh, Santos being one of them.


Video Report: http://www.firstcoastnews.com/video...ghborhood/50619441001/50624658001/65869876001

I guess it wasn't "paradise" living next to the Croslins and Cummings....

 

[twall]

Tommy appeared in court the morning after the drug trafficking arrest.
The $100,000 bond was set then. The burglary charges were added. The bond from the Sept. theft charge was revoked. All 3 of those cases are now consolidated.
This is why we now see his latest booking itemized this way.
I came to this conclusion by studying the court dockets which I won't post here due to the length of them.
I hope that helps explain his situation better.

It seems to me that the only way he can bond out is IF the bond for the Sept. theft charge is re-instated. That bond would have to be put up along with the new burg/theft charges ($7504 total)
and the $100,000 drug traffic charge. That would be over $10,750 plus collateral for the rest-I don't see it happening. Now that Lindsy is away from the Croslins (I hope she is) I hope she stays away. She is a smart young woman with 3 young children and a nursing degree. She can do it on her own-I just hope she wants to.

HANK THOMAS CROSLIN
SATSUMA, FL
Booking Date & Time: 1/21/2010 8:48:12 AM - Booking#: 10-00277
Release Date & Time: 1/21/2010 10:20:00 AM
DOB: 8/2/1986 - RACE: W - SEX: M

Charges Misd/Felony Degree Bond Bond Posted
893.135-1c1 DRUGS-TRAFFIC 4 GRAMS LESS 30 KG OTHER CNTRL SUBST F F $100,000.00
810.02-2b BURGL DWELLING STRUCTURE OR CONVEYANCE ARMED F F $5,004.00
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F $2,504.00
812.014-2a1 LARC GRAND 1ST DEGREE 100K DOLS MORE OR LEO SEMI F F $0.00
$107,508.00

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=758545&IMG=59423

 

[raisincharlie]

One has to feel bad for the kids of Tommy and Lindsy - at the end of this tape you can hear LC tell Misty that Lindsy can't find a job because of all this stuff being on tv.

http://www.wftv.com/news/22531052/detail.html

Lindsy would be wise if she realized that Tommy is going to jail, she is going to be on her own with three kids - if she knows anything, she could dramatically improve her situation if she came forward with it as that would end up on tv as well. She could at least make herself look decent. Maybe her Grand Dad can talk some sense into her. Good luck GP.

 

[4Jacy]

One has to feel bad for the kids of Tommy and Lindsy - at the end of this tape you can hear LC tell Misty that Lindsy can't find a job because of all this stuff being on tv.

http://www.wftv.com/news/22531052/detail.html

Lindsy would be wise if she realized that Tommy is going to jail, she is going to be on her own with three kids - if she knows anything, she could dramatically improve her situation if she came forward with it as that would end up on tv as well. She could at least make herself look decent. Maybe her Grand Dad can talk some sense into her. Good luck GP.

Lindsy does know something. She is the one that showed the police where the towels, videos were. She knew Tommy stole them. I wonder how Tommy is going to take it when he finds this out.