The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 17th June - Trial Day 5 - Week 2

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Ms Nutting says Gerard told her someone with depression should be able to "snap out of it". #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Ms Nutting: Gerard said he didn't believe depression was an illness and thought people could snap out of it #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 43s
Ms Nutting felt Allison wasn't feeling depression at the time or was well medicated #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 46s
Ms Nutting says Gerard told her he wanted to "fix it". She says she didn't consider Allison was showing signs of depression. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Actions speak louder than words Mr GBC! jmo

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 1m
Gerard #badenclay told psychologist in October 2011 he did not believe depression was an illness. "People can snap out of it."

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Allison was more fragile, less confident the second time she saw Ms Nutting #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Ms Nutting felt Allison wasn't feeling depression at the time or was well medicated #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 53s
Ms Nutting says Allison didn't speak about her depression and anxiety until the second session in November. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Ms Nutting says Gerard told her someone with depression should be able to "snap out of it". #badenclay :furious:

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 44s
Ms Nutting is correcting herself, says at the first session, Allison spoke about her anxiety but says she'd pushed through it. #badenclay


Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1m
Ms Nutting consulted with Gerard and Allison between Oct-Dec 2011. #badenclay @abcnews

 

[Fuskier]

Wearing all black in the eyes of Nigel means she is depressed. Wonder how many other 'depressed' people there are in the court room wearing dark clothes.:jail:

Wonder what he made of his daughter Olivia wearing an all black dress yesterday with the only colour being a coloured scarf around her neck? Masking an underlying depression?

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I kind of get where Geraaaaaaaaaaaard was coming from there, having someone moping about the house because of something you did to them must be so annoying .. :banghead:

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 36s
Allison told the psychologist she was an anxious child but learned to push through #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 56s
Ms Nutting says Allison spoke of taking Lariam during her honeymoon but had "freaked out". #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 37s
Ms Nutting says Allison spoke of having a panic attack during her second pregnancy. #badenclay

 

[Smegal]

Clearly the Doc needs to take some lessons on "The Psychology of Fashion", with NBC. Pfffff....psychological testing? Who needs that.....

I can't help think of that Simpsons episode when Homer says to he doctor 'Excuse me doctor but think I know a little something about medicine'.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 40s
Ms Nutting says Allison seemed like a very responsible mother and quite close to her children. #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 43s
Allison seemed like a responsible mother, close to her children #badenclay

 

[Amee]

12:04pm: Ms Nutting took notes of what Mr Baden-Clay said during their first session on October 13, 2011.

"[He said] 'I'm black and white on some things ... my actions are not who I am. I don't believe in depression being an illness. I believe people can snap out of it'," she said, reading from her notes.

"He said, 'I'm the problem. We had a plan. I was trapped'. He said he wanted to fix it. He said he felt a failure because he couldn't fix it."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...ay-5-week-2-20140617-3a9wj.html#ixzz34rGbPxMS

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 46s
Ms Nutting says Allison was "quite impacted" by Gerard's affair. She was sad and wanted to keep the marriage. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 44s
Ms Nutting: She really wanted to pick up the marriage and get it going again. She had every hope that that would happen. #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Ms Nutting: she was sad, knew marriage wasn't good but really wanted to get it going again #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 46s
Ms Nutting: Allison had been lonely for the last four years. 'She said she needed a hug from someone'. #badenclay


Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Ms Nutting says Allison was less positive about the relationship in November. She said she'd been lonely for four years. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Ms Nutting says Allison told her she needed a hug from someone. When she thought about the "other woman" she took a step back. #badenclay

 

[Mumma Bear]

Just noticed something odd regarding the testimony timeline of both doctors........

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 47s
In August, 2011, Dr Bourke referred her to a Dr Lumsden. #badenclay

and

ate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 1m
Dr Lumsden says he saw Allison in December 2010. She wanted the doctor to speak with Gerard. #badenclay

maybe Dr Lumsden saw her in December 2011

It could be a mistake, or it could just be a second referral. Specialist referrals only last for 6 months. Even if you continue to see the specialist, after 6 months you need to get referred again (as a Medicare thing).

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Tessa Scott ‏@TessaScott9 43s
Psychologist says Allison was fragile in 2011, felt affair was unfair and had been lonely for 4 years. @9NewsBrisbane #badenclay

Sarah Elks ‏@sarahelks 47s
Psychologist Rosamond Nutting says Allison Baden-Clay had "every hope" her marriage to Gerard would survive, in wake of affair #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 57s
Ms Nutting says Allison thought it was all unfair. She was having flashbacks of seeing Gerard's girlfriend's car at the gym. #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
She felt it was all unfair. She was having flashbacks of seeing Gerard's car at the gym #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Ms Nutting says she asked Allison to come on her own at the next session. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 45s
Ms Nutting says both Gerard and Allison were there in the December session, 2011. #badenclay

 

[Tishy]

Kate Kyriacou ‏@KateKyriacou 1m
Ms Nutting says Gerard told her someone with depression should be able to "snap out of it". #badenclay :furious:

Yes by simply changing their wardrobe. OMG it was that simple and I never knew.

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 45s
Ms Nutting: Gerard said he carried his jealousies into his marriage #badenclay



hmmmm.... interesting, tell us more.