The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 30th June - Trial Day 12, Week 3

[wewillgetyou]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · now

Gerard says there was an occasion where Toni went overseas. He hoped that would "be the circuit breaker". #badenclay

Gerard says he was with Toni "primarily for the physical intimacy". #badenclay

The overseas trip is probably when he bought her the camera

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 54s
Gerard says it was primarily about the physical intimacy, and he was flattered by the attention #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 10s

Gerard says meanwhile he and Allison were having "challenges" in their relationship that they wanted to work through. #badenclay

 

[alioop]

The trouble for GBC is that the timing is all wrong. Even if Allison is in the deep depressions, going to bed at 5pm and not coping with 3 young girls, she never attempted self harm.

At the time of her death, she clearly had it together. Youngest daughter is now at school leaving Allison free to work 4 days in the business, run the ballet school etc, etc. evidence has been provided even by OW and Gerard that she was fine, no problems. That very day Thursday she was full of plans. Plans for the future of the business with the consultant she met with that day, plans for the conference the next day, plans to drop off dresses to Kerry Ann, plans for a sleepover the next night etc.

She was happy that GBC came to counselling and had hopes for saving her marriage. She was crossing off the list of questions she had in her diary as they had their 15 min sessions.

There was no reason to kill herself whatsoever.

 

[Amee]

Loyalty to Allison and the girls? :thud:

My loyalty, it doesn't feel right using that word, but my loyalty was to Allison and my children and I didn't want to jeopardise that," he said.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-12-week-4-20140630-3b2vi.html#ixzz364yknfZK

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 22s

Gerard says they went to see a marriage counsellor. He did not reveal the affair. "I was ashamed of it." #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 57s
He and Allison were trying to work through their challenges, went and saw a counsellor - Gerard #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 32s
Gerard never revealed the affair in counselling, says he was ashamed #badenclay

 

[AllyG]

This man makes me want to vomit. Seriously.

 

[Kimster]

Dr George said after the delivery of the baby she was disappointed but expressed to him that she was mostly concerned for her husband, who she thought had wanted a boy.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/...ing-wife-allison/story-fnihsrf2-1226959211797

BINGO! I had a feeling this was the case.

 

[Amee]

10:52am: Mr Baden-Clay said he eventually told Ms McHugh there was no future for them. He said he tried to break off the affair numerous times.

"There wasn't a future for us together ... and if there wasn't a future for us then there wasn't a point continuing," he said.

"Typically, that was the basis of the conversation. She would always get very upset about that. She was a bit more of a volatile personality. She would get very angry and agitated about that. And as I say sometimes I could hold out against that for days or a week, sometimes for longer."

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-12-week-4-20140630-3b2vi.html#ixzz364zFYYwd

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 15s

Gerard says Allison didn't find the counselling particularly constructive. Says Allison felt counsellor was taking his side. #badenclay

Gerard says Allison found a different counsellor for them to go to. #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 24s

Gerard says Allison for years kept affirmations, would tell herself "I'm not depressed, I'm not depressed". #badenclay


Gerard: If things for her turned bad she could relapse to her lowest levels ... we now had three children. #badenclay

 

[Trooper]

all his stories wind up with him the victim /hero and everyone else being a bit snarky/ depressed/ demanding/ ..... its amazing, really...

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m
Allison didn't find the initial counselling constructive, thought the counsellor was taking his side - Gerard #badenclay


David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 55s
Allison had an affirmation, 'I am not depressed' - Gerard #badenclay

 

[marlywings]

Allison's words....

"Sometimes at night I feel lonely and cry.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...n-badenclay-20121217-2biqi.html#ixzz364xloLEq

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 6s

Gerard says they knew from their work with psychiatrist that she had depression and needed to know how to cope with it. #badenclay

Gerard says there were times when he was working and Allison "on the surface" was back to her capable self. #badenclay


Gerard says when he was there, she would rely on him to do just about everything. #badenclay

 

[PrimeSuspect]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 26s
Allison would rely on me to do everything - Gerard #badenclay

 

[toe]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 10s

Gerard says meanwhile he and Allison were having "challenges" in their relationship that they wanted to work through. #badenclay

How could anyone claim this BS, a man with a volatile mistress claiming he wanted to work through 'challenges' in his marriage.

Pants on fire Gerry!

 

[Amee]

10:55am: "Why were in the affair with Toni McHugh," Mr Baden-Clay's defence counsel Michael Byrne QC asked.

"Primarily for the physical intimacy. I was flattered at the outset because she looked up to me as a boss and I was getting acknowledgement and appreciation, which I hadn't really experienced before," Mr Baden-Clay replied.

He said he was able to "compartmentalise the physical from everything else" and continue to work on his marriage with Allison.

"Aside from the physical relationship we were having challenges in our relationship which we were trying to work through," he said.

Read more: http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...y-12-week-4-20140630-3b2vi.html#ixzz364zvjqQJ

 

[they'll get you]

I'm sorry but I'm getting the 'she was a wicked woman' for being sick. What's he trying to say, Allison rejected her third child!!!!!!!!!!!! jmo

That's screaming at me too!

 

[drsleuth]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 26s
Allison would rely on me to do everything - Gerard #badenclay

How in the hell did she get herself to Kholo Creek than!!!!!!!!!!! :banghead::banghead: