The Crown v Gerard Baden-Clay, 30th June - Trial Day 12, Week 3

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 16s

Gerard says Allison had bought her journal with a number of questions she wanted to ask. #badenclay



Gerard says things had been improving, so things were OK. #badenclay

 

[Cattail]

That makes no sense - it is well known, and widely reported in the medical as well as mainstream media, that the risk of post-natal depression is HIGHER after caesarean section than after normal vaginal birth.



I don't know of ANY obstetricians who would recommend an elective C-section on the grounds that the mother is prone to post natal depression. If you were aiming to reduce the "psychological pressure of birth" on the mother, you would recommend a vaginal birth - far easier to get over, both physically and psychologically.

Having had one of each I can completely agree with the physical side.


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[Pastafarian]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 25s

We've resumed. Gerard is talking about his relationship with Toni. #badenclay

Gerard says he never intended to leave his wife. #badenclay

Well, he did leave his wife......at Kholo Creek

 

[MadDoc]

Gerard says Toni called him, he never called her. He would delete the calls from his call history. #badenclay :banghead:

Well, that would be very easy to prove or disprove from phone records.

 

[Amee]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m

On April 18 they got takeaway Maccas coffee and went to Mt Coot-tha to talk #badenclay

 

[Amee]

avid Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 55s

Things had been improving, there was some tension, he didn't know what she was going to ask - Gerard #badenclay

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 53s

Gerard says Allison wrote down a number of questions about the affair that she wanted him to answer #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 12s

Gerard says they spent about 20 minutes, maybe a bit more, in the car. Allison didn't finish all the questions she had. #badenclay


Gerard says Allison must have been keeping an eye on the time, because she told him when they should stop. #badenclay


Gerard says they were sitting in their seats in the car, turned to face one another. #badenclay

 

[toe]

It might have been Mike Munro and his big red book looking for Gerred.

Mike would need a wheel barrow to carry all the big red books.

 

[Amee]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 56s

It was probably 20 minutes, Allison didn't finish all her questions - Gerard #badenclay

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 1m

He had promised to answer them #badenclay

 

[Amee]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 1m

Neither raised their voice, no abuse, no physical violence in the discussion - Gerard #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 36s

Under the counsellor's direction he just had to listen - Gerard #badenclay

 

[drsleuth]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 14s

Gerard says Allison told him she was feeling very sad about what happened and could she ask him her questions? #badenclay

Gerard says it was not the first time they'd discussed the affair. They'd talked about it many times. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 40s

She started by saying she was feeling sad but determined, then started asking questions - Gerard #badenclay

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 37s

When the time was up, she stopped talking, as agreed, and Gerard was appreciative #badenclay

 

[catswhiskers]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 13s

Gerard says Toni didn't like what she was doing. Told him she'd had an anxiety attack at work and passed out. #badenclay

Gerard: I was obviously concerned about her. #badenclay

Gerard says he and Toni met on a couple of occasions "and there were two occasions when we did have some physical contact". #badenclay

Methinks he's read too many Bronte novels where the women all get the vapours and pass out at regular intervals - and of course just can't live without him.

 

[alioop]

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 16s

Gerard says Allison had bought her journal with a number of questions she wanted to ask. #badenclay



Gerard says things had been improving, so things were OK. #badenclay

Yes things were going ok as far as Allison knew as at the Wednesday 17 th. So why on earth would she kill herself!

 

[Amee]

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 45s

They'd discussed the affair before but this was the first time with structure - Gerard #badenclay

David Murray ‏@TheMurrayD 32s

Allison mostly wanted to know where Gerard and Toni had been intimate - Gerard #badenclay

 

[Thinking]

the partners statements under oath directly contradict all of Gerards waffling..

Yes but the jury won't be seeing these statements so they aren't very helpful unfortunately

 

[drsleuth]

Gerard said one of the themes Allison would ask about is where he and Toni had "been intimate". #badenclay

Kate Kyriacou @KateKyriacou · 17s

Gerard says he'd already told her he'd had sex with Toni in the Prado and she refused to drive it after that. #badenclay

 

[Amee]

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 1m

Allison was stuck on wanting to know where Gerard and Toni had sex #badenclay

 

[squizzey1]

Francene Norton ‏@francenenorton 1m

Jury shown email from #badenclay saying "leave things to me". He was asked to explain what that meant. 1/2 @abcnews

Caroline Overington ‏@overingtonc 1m

Gerard hoped a 1 July deadline would come and go and Toni would get frustrated that he wasn't leaving #badenclay

oh g you irresitable thing you girls just couldn't leave u alone bucket please

 

[Amee]

2:50pm: Defence counsel Michael Byrne has continued questioning Gerard Baden-Clay about emails between him and his long-time mistress Toni McHugh.

Mr Byrne showed the court the email Mr Baden-Clay sent to Ms McHugh on April 11, 2012, telling her he loved her.

The email read: "This is agony for me too. I love you. I'm sorry you hung up on me. It sounded like you were getting very angry. I love you GG. Leave things to me now. I love you GM."

The court has previously heard the lovers called each other GG for "Gorgeous Girl" and GM for "Gorgeous Man".

Mr Baden-Clay said he wrote the email in an attempt to placate Ms McHugh who was demanding he leave his wife to be with her.

Mr Baden-Clay insisted he never had any intention to leave his wife.

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