The Cuts

[beesy]

That's just a supporter claim after the fact, Goody. Darlie never claimed an intruder stuffed a sock in her mouth. She never complained of a chin cut or mouth cuts or a raw mouth when she was in the hospital.

Oh yeah, forgot about that. She'd have complained about the mouth especially :boohoo: Chris strikes again. He said she had ulcers in her mouth too, right? Hmmmm....good try, back to square 1, Goody.

All of that baloney is courtesy of her supporters. After so many years of hearing their B.S, it's difficult to separate fact from fiction...which is what they're counting on :boohoo:

You're exactly right. Keep us in check Miss Mary

 

[Goody]

Only problem with the chin scratch is that there's no testimony, none whatsoever, that she had that scratch in the hospital. It doesn't show up until years later on the Justice for Darlie website and in CWB's book...and even he doesn't point it out!

If the police were thorough enough to photograph the tiny scratches on her left hand, do you think they would have ignored an obvious scratch on her chin? Remember that photo on her website where her head is back and they're begging you to see her swollen lips? That photo wasn't admitted into evidence...it's another example of supporters' willingness to use any means to trick and confuse.

I think we've been duped again.

This could be since we don't know what the cops had that they didn't want us to see. Both sides have an agenda in every trial. It is hard to trust the pro-darlie websites where those pictures are concerned. Even those admitted into evidence have been so enhanced, the injuries are obviously exaggerated in color, size, etc. It sure would be nice if someone went back to the record and published unenhanced photos but I guess there is no chance of that happening.

 

[Goody]

That's just a supporter claim after the fact, Goody. Darlie never claimed an intruder stuffed a sock in her mouth. She never complained of a chin cut or mouth cuts or a raw mouth when she was in the hospital.

All of that baloney is courtesy of her supporters. After so many years of hearing their B.S, it's difficult to separate fact from fiction...which is what they're counting on :boohoo:

Didn't she testify that maybe the intruder put something in her mouth like a gag or his hands over her mouth so she couldn't scream? You know, make the suggestion without giving up her amnesia claims?

 

[beesy]

Didn't she testify that maybe the intruder put something in her mouth like a gag or his hands over her mouth so she couldn't scream? You know, make the suggestion without giving up her amnesia claims?

I don't think she did. Like most of her story, she seems to think we should know where the bruises came from, why she didn't scream...etc....
Her supporters talk about those big bruises and say no way could she hurt herself like that. Darlie herself has never mentioned being beaten with a blunt object during her so-called struggle. Again, she just leaves that to us.

 

[Goody]

I don't think she did. Like most of her story, she seems to think we should know where the bruises came from, why she didn't scream...etc....
Her supporters talk about those big bruises and say no way could she hurt herself like that. Darlie herself has never mentioned being beaten with a blunt object during her so-called struggle. Again, she just leaves that to us.

Well, she does that because she thinks her lack of explanation proves she is not lying about not being able to remember what happened. If she remembers anything she is not supposed to, there goes her whole alibi.

 

[Goody]

I don't think she did. Like most of her story, she seems to think we should know where the bruises came from, why she didn't scream...etc....
Her supporters talk about those big bruises and say no way could she hurt herself like that. Darlie herself has never mentioned being beaten with a blunt object during her so-called struggle. Again, she just leaves that to us.

This is as close to it she got under testimony:
5 Q. If you saw a man attacking your
6 children, you would scream your head off, wouldn't you?
7 A. Yes, sir, unless my mouth was covered.
8 Q. You would scream for your husband,
9 wouldn't you?
10 A. Unless my mouth was covered, yes, sir.
11 Q. You didn't have any problems screaming
12 for him when he finally got up and came down there, did
13 you?
14 A. My mouth was not covered.
15 Q. Did you find any tape, or any gauze or
16 anything stuffed in your mouth that showed it to be
17 covered?
18 A. No, just except for that it was torn
19 up inside.
20 Q. Okay. It was all torn up inside.
21 A. Well, it felt raw.
22 Q. Did you talk to the doctors about
23 that?
24 A. I talked to the nurse about that, yes,
25 I did.
Sandra M. Halsey, CSR, Official Court Reporter
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She doesn't address the sock at all except when questioned about the coincidence that it was found behind Glenn Mize's house, a man she disliked immensely. I guess the stuffed in the mouth explanation was created by supporters to account for her DNA on the sock.

Also, the blunt object could have been the floor, a wall, a countertop, possibly even a door. It just has to be a flat surface with no edges to leave marks.

 

[beesy]

She doesn't address the sock at all except when questioned about the coincidence that it was found behind Glenn Mize's house, a man she disliked immensely. I guess the stuffed in the mouth explanation was created by supporters to account for her DNA on the sock.

Also, the blunt object could have been the floor, a wall, a countertop, possibly even a door. It just has to be a flat surface with no edges to leave marks.

Yeah, those bruises could have been caused by many things, IV's, needles, blood settling, but I meant she's never made up a story about how she got them. The Darlies say "look at these bruises!" never saying that the man had a bat or some other weapon. Darlie never mentions her arms hurting while in the hospital. They just put all these things out there and expect people to know they occured during the attack with an intruder. It's worked for a lot of people though. At least Dr. Mac respected us enough to make up a tale which matched his boo-boo's. She never even says "I guess I got these from the man" She says "look at the pix! How could I have made those bruises" then hands it back to us.
We all know she did it, but jeez Darlie, give us something to work with besides amnesia

 

[Goody]

Yeah, those bruises could have been caused by many things, IV's, needles, blood settling, but I meant she's never made up a story about how she got them. The Darlies say "look at these bruises!" never saying that the man had a bat or some other weapon. Darlie never mentions her arms hurting while in the hospital. They just put all these things out there and expect people to know they occured during the attack with an intruder. It's worked for a lot of people though. At least Dr. Mac respected us enough to make up a tale which matched his boo-boo's. She never even says "I guess I got these from the man" She says "look at the pix! How could I have made those bruises" then hands it back to us.
We all know she did it, but jeez Darlie, give us something to work with besides amnesia

But that is Darlie's lie M.O. She never commits to anything. She offers evidence, maybe a few facts that can't be disputed, then kicks back and let's people jump to their own conclusions or solve the mystery for her. That way they can't trip her up in a lie. I imagine it worked really good for her in high school and she's been doing it ever since.

Darin, on the other hand, says whatever pops into his mind, forgetting what he said previously half the time. That is why he gets caught and she doesn't.

 

[beesy]

But that is Darlie's lie M.O. She never commits to anything. She offers evidence, maybe a few facts that can't be disputed, then kicks back and let's people jump to their own conclusions or solve the mystery for her. That way they can't trip her up in a lie. I imagine it worked really good for her in high school and she's been doing it ever since.

Darin, on the other hand, says whatever pops into his mind, forgetting what he said previously half the time. That is why he gets caught and she doesn't.

Yep, psst...duufus remember?
Judge Judy: "You don't have to have a good memory if you tell the truth!"

NVenomous Beesy N​

from beneath you, it devours

 

[Goody]

Yep, psst...duufus remember?
Judge Judy: "You don't have to have a good memory if you tell the truth!"

NVenomous Beesy N​

from beneath you, it devours

:laugh: Good one, Beesy.

 

[SnootyVixen]

Whenever you see movies where people die from having their throats cut they are actually slashed from ear to ear with a deep open wound- nothing like running it along your skin.


Dani T. I think I am agreeing about not able to do the deep stabbs to the body. And I don't think I am one that could cut the neck at all. I think I just must live. (little humor) But what it is I am wanting to say is that when the large vessel in the throat is cut you die. Doesn't matter how it got cut I think. You just die from the bleeding. Don't yuou think? Not a right way or a not right way to cut the vessel. Don't matter. Cut and you die.
SnootyVixen

 

[Goody]

Whenever you see movies where people die from having their throats cut they are actually slashed from ear to ear with a deep open wound- nothing like running it along your skin.


Dani T. I think I am agreeing about not able to do the deep stabbs to the body. And I don't think I am one that could cut the neck at all. I think I just must live. (little humor) But what it is I am wanting to say is that when the large vessel in the throat is cut you die. Doesn't matter how it got cut I think. You just die from the bleeding. Don't yuou think? Not a right way or a not right way to cut the vessel. Don't matter. Cut and you die.
SnootyVixen

Ira Einhorn cut his throat a while back and he was not seriously injured. I think there is a right way and wrong way one can cut their throat to avoid the artery, windpipe, vocal cords, etc. It is not an easy thing to do, but people do it more often than we know so it is not unheard of or impossible.

 

[beesy]

Whenever you see movies where people die from having their throats cut they are actually slashed from ear to ear with a deep open wound- nothing like running it along your skin.

True, you see it in real life too LOL Darlie didn't know the caratoid artery was so close to the surface. She nearly killed herself. She has used that as a defense, saying that nobody would knowingly slice so close to the caratoid artery. She didn't know, simple

Dani T. I think I am agreeing about not able to do the deep stabbs to the body. And I don't think I am one that could cut the neck at all. I think I just must live. (little humor) But what it is I am wanting to say is that when the large vessel in the throat is cut you die. Doesn't matter how it got cut I think. You just die from the bleeding. Don't yuou think? Not a right way or a not right way to cut the vessel. Don't matter. Cut and you die.
SnootyVixen

Besides being scary, Darlie never would have stabbed herself in the stomach or chest, remember? She figured she'd slice her throat a tad, but then it bled more than she expected and she thought she'd cut either the caratoid or jugular vein. Either would have taken her out in seconds. She called 911 at that time to save herself. Not sure what her original plan was, but it wasn't to call them when she did. Why would an intruder cut her throat when it'd be easier to stab her in the chest or stomach. She guesses she was lying down during the attack. Why mess with her throat? He didn't because it didn't happen

 

[SnootyVixen]

Goody I only am thinking of cutting the vessel. If it donot get cut then it don't matter what the cut is. But if the vessel gets cut the you die and it don't matter again how the cut was. Am I saying it wrong? Darlie cuts the neck and it is a wrong cut. But it closely came to cutting the large vessel. If it cut, then she would die anmd it don't matter that she did a wrong cut. Is that right?

 

[Goody]

Goody I only am thinking of cutting the vessel. If it donot get cut then it don't matter what the cut is. But if the vessel gets cut the you die and it don't matter again how the cut was. Am I saying it wrong? Darlie cuts the neck and it is a wrong cut. But it closely came to cutting the large vessel. If it cut, then she would die anmd it don't matter that she did a wrong cut. Is that right?

Yes. The danger in that particular area was only the carotid artery. It is very thin so you either hit it or you don't. If you don't, you aren't going to bleed to death. If you do, you've only got minutes to get medical attention. Almosts don't count.

 

[beesy]

Goody I only am thinking of cutting the vessel. If it donot get cut then it don't matter what the cut is. But if the vessel gets cut the you die and it don't matter again how the cut was. Am I saying it wrong? Darlie cuts the neck and it is a wrong cut. But it closely came to cutting the large vessel. If it cut, then she would die anmd it don't matter that she did a wrong cut. Is that right?

Darlie did not make a wrong cut. She wasn't trying to hit the caratoid, she didn't hit it therefore she made a right cut. If she had hit the jugular or caratoid, she'd have died and that's not what she wanted to do. So her cut was right. It depends on what you are trying to do. Mary said she's heard of people who know how to miss the important things, that's a right cut because they achieved what they were trying to. A killer or someone trying to kill themselves cuts deep enough to cut the artery so that's a right cut. It just depends on if you want to kill or injure.

 

[Mary456]

But what it is I am wanting to say is that when the large vessel in the throat is cut you die.

Not necessarily, Snooty. Dr. Dillawn said that lacerations of the carotid artery can stop bleeding if pressure is applied, either from overlying muscle tissue or even a towel. He's seen it happen with some of his patients.

It's really irrelevant, though, because Darlie didn't cut her carotid artery.

 

[Mary456]

Mary said she's heard of people who know how to miss the important things, that's a right cut because they achieved what they were trying to.

No, beesy, I don't think Darlie had any idea where her carotid artery was. In fact, I'll bet most of us don't know where that artery is located in our necks.

I believe it was just dumb luck that Darlie didn't sever it, BUT I'll bet there's been a few times over the last 8 years when she's wished she had!

 

[beesy]

No, beesy, I don't think Darlie had any idea where her carotid artery was. In fact, I'll bet most of us don't know where that artery is located in our necks.

I believe it was just dumb luck that Darlie didn't sever it, BUT I'll bet there's been a few times over the last 8 years when she's wished she had!

Actually, that's what I meant. After reading about all of this and polling some friends and family, they didn't know how close to the surface the carotoid is, and many are smarter and less crazy than Darlie. I was just trying to tell SV that there's really no right or wrong way to cut your neck. It's what you're trying to do. Darlie just intended to slice it and then when it bled so much, she might have thought she hit the vein or artery. I think she probably knew enough to know that people are murdered by slashing of throats. I think she was worried that she'd cut harder than she meant to. If we are talking about wrong or right cuts, she made a correct cut because she didn't hit anything fatal, which was her plan. Maybe not the exact location of the veins, but she knew a person can bleed to death if his throat is slashed. So using S.V's theory, Darlie made a right cut for what Darlie wanted to do. And like you said, she just happened to stop at a good spot! I think it's because it hurt too much so she stopped. But what a windfall for her. Nearly severing the artery! Why wouldn't an intruder just stab her anway? Because Darlie couldn't get up the nerve to stab herself
All the Darlies have latched onto to the fact that she cut so close. Their theory is that nobody would ever do that on pursose because it was so dangerous. But again, Darlie had no idea when she sliced it how close she came. . When it bled a lot I think she was worried she was bleeding out.
Here is the post above where I said Darlie didn't know

True, you see it in real life too LOL Darlie didn't know the caratoid artery was so close to the surface. She nearly killed herself. She has used that as a defense, saying that nobody would knowingly slice so close to the caratoid artery. She didn't know, simple

 

[beesy]

No, beesy, I don't think Darlie had any idea where her carotid artery was. In fact, I'll bet most of us don't know where that artery is located in our necks

. When I am saying "carotid or jugular", don't assume I'm saying she knew about them. I'm just explaining what could have happened and using the correct names.