The death of Princess Diana

  • #441
Plus, eventual DNA testing DID prove that the tested blood was a match to the parents of Henri Paul, so it was the driver's blood. In addition to alcohol, traces of the following medications were found in the drivers' blood: the anti-depressant Prozac; a medication that "makes you not want to drink alcohol" called Aotal, also known as Acamprosate; a drug used for "treating withdrawal symptoms" called Tiapridal or tiapride; and a drug used for "treating worms" called Zetel or albendazole.

How unfortunate that this man chose to drink while taking all of these medications, let alone drive a car!
 
  • #442
If Henri refused to drive that night, he would be out of a job and pronto. When dealing with a family like Dodi's and a Princess, it is not a "choice" when they "tell" you that you are going to drive, you just do it. I am sure that he "thought" that he was O.K., and never thought on the "off" chance that he was too drunk to drive. A few drinks, vs. his source of income. That would be a no brainer to Henri.

If Henri had the medication's in his blood as reported, it would be same to assume that he had a "problem" with alcohol.
 
  • #443
I think 100% it was a conspiracy and it went exactly as it was planned. I believe there were people doing cartwheels when Diana was pronounced dead.


I agree wholeheartedly, but I highly doubt this inquest is going to tell us the truth. I believe she was murdered and members of the royal family put it into action. This, of course, will never be brought to light. Dodi's father has the money and the brains to make this happen. The man has and is doing his best to tell the story of what precisely happened. I believe there are others behind the scenes undermining and possibly threatening him constantly.
And it makes me :furious:
 
  • #444
I assume one of the reason Henri was drinking was that he "expected" to be off for the night, and he was not on call. Saturday night in Paris and a person would go out. What is he going to say: Sorry can't drive you, I have had too much to drink. Not a chance. I guess like other people who have had drinks before they have driven, they "thought" they are O.K. to drive, but in the end, they were not.

The Royal Family may not have been fond of Diana, but they would not "murder" the mother of the future king and leave two boys without their mother as they grow up. Remember Diana was "not a member of the Royal Family. The two boys are.[/quote]

Now consider the mother of the future king carrying a muslim man's child. What transpired during the over extended trip to the hospital is very telling imo. The ambulance pulled over for nearly 20 mins to "stabilize' her. Could an abortion have been performed or at the very least started? I think so. I think many give the Royal Family too much credit for being just that ... a family or caring and loving individuals. They have proven in the past how heartless they can be. They will do tons to cover a possible embarassment. To them appearances and stature are everything. If Diana was pg with Dodi's child. That would be a massive smack in the face to the Queen. Massive!
 
  • #445
And the "royals" wouldn't have it any other way! I do believe she was. I also believe she was happy about it. There were people she told she was. I will try to find some links. It has been a LONG time since I have read anything about it though. We will never know all the truth anyway.
:waitasec: One of those unsolved issues that I guess will be speculated about forever in history.:bang:



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  • #446
  • #447
So lets assume: That with all of the people at the crash scene, that the Doctor performed an abortion and no one noticed anything going on. That the Doctor would have her "in the position" to do so and also have the necessary equipment too. Assuming also when the autopsy was performed that she was "not bleeding" from that area and when again the autopsy was performed "no abortion" was detected.

That means, all of the emergency personal, the photographers, the Police and the ambulance attendance and Doctors "were in on it and have said nothing". Remember there photos taken of Diana when she was "injured" in the car.

Also again, lets assume that Diana was murdered: There would have to be "a great deal" of planning in doing so and the circumstances would have to be carefully considered. The conspiracy would have to involve many people, especially Henri. Henri worked for Dodi as head of security. There were not "previous" plans to go to the apartment from the Ritz, as this was not pre-arranged. You would have to plan a conspiracy, when the variable are unknown with many people "to keep" quiet and not say anything to anyone ever.

I really don't think so. Occam's razor comes to mind when it comes to the known facts about this case, is is more likely many "unknown" people were involved in a conspiracy and the timing was variable along with the circumstances or speed, inexperience, and booze that caused the accident.

By the way: Diana was on the pill, the pregnancy "rumors" were put to rest.
 
  • #448
While I do believe that Diana's convenient death was viewed as a "great relief" to many in the Royal Family, after at first believing she was murdered, I am now changing my mind somewhat on that.

Actually, I am trying to keep an open mind.

To whom did Diana reveal that she was pregnant? I do not recall ever reading that she had made that statement, and I have read about every book written on the subject. (I know, I need to get a life! Hey, my daughter and I also drove from Pittsburgh to Cleveland to see the traveling museum exhibit displaying her wedding dress. What can I say? I was always a Diana fan.)
 
  • #449
I don't think there was any conspiracy or anything I think it was a accident plain and simple. I think it is very sad that it came at a time where Princess Di finally was able to live a little and breathe! I also don't understand how the royal family will accept Camille into their life knowing she had an affair with what's his face during the time he was married to Diana. I feel that him marrying Camille was a huge disrespect to Dianas 2 sons. I loved Princess Di and I still get choke up thinking about her...:(
 
  • #450
I don't think there was any conspiracy or anything I think it was a accident plain and simple. I think it is very sad that it came at a time where Princess Di finally was able to live a little and breathe! I also don't understand how the royal family will accept Camille into their life knowing she had an affair with what's his face during the time he was married to Diana. I feel that him marrying Camille was a huge disrespect to Dianas 2 sons. I loved Princess Di and I still get choke up thinking about her...:(

Yes, but unfortunately taking a mistress, even in this day and age, is considered the "right" of princes and kings, however morally and ethically wrong. Charles was an idiot.
 
  • #451
So lets assume: That with all of the people at the crash scene, that the Doctor performed an abortion and no one noticed anything going on. That the Doctor would have her "in the position" to do so and also have the necessary equipment too. Assuming also when the autopsy was performed that she was "not bleeding" from that area and when again the autopsy was performed "no abortion" was detected.

That means, all of the emergency personal, the photographers, the Police and the ambulance attendance and Doctors "were in on it and have said nothing". Remember there photos taken of Diana when she was "injured" in the car.

Also again, lets assume that Diana was murdered: There would have to be "a great deal" of planning in doing so and the circumstances would have to be carefully considered. The conspiracy would have to involve many people, especially Henri. Henri worked for Dodi as head of security. There were not "previous" plans to go to the apartment from the Ritz, as this was not pre-arranged. You would have to plan a conspiracy, when the variable are unknown with many people "to keep" quiet and not say anything to anyone ever.

I really don't think so. Occam's razor comes to mind when it comes to the known facts about this case, is is more likely many "unknown" people were involved in a conspiracy and the timing was variable along with the circumstances or speed, inexperience, and booze that caused the accident.

By the way: Diana was on the pill, the pregnancy "rumors" were put to rest.

:blowkiss: Dear Cyber.....I have a pill baby named Jonathan! :crazy:
 
  • #452
Charles still IS an idiot, IMO. He will not be the first idiot to become King , of course. When you actually get into reading the history of some of the monarchs of the past, I guess he isn't so bad in comparison. No KNOWN illegitimate children, no public parade of mistresses. Well, just the one, and he married her, forgodsake!

I am sure there are PLENTY of upper crust Brits who meet and greet Camilla with a very FIXED smile on their face. And as for the regular folks - well there is a reason Diana was known as the People's Princess.

For some genuine humor plus the inside scoop on The Royals here is one of my favorite sites: http://www.throneout.com/
 
  • #453
Charles still IS an idiot, IMO. He will not be the first idiot to become King , of course. When you actually get into reading the history of some of the monarchs of the past, I guess he isn't so bad in comparison. No KNOWN illegitimate children, no public parade of mistresses. Well, just the one, and he married her, forgodsake!

I am sure there are PLENTY of upper crust Brits who meet and greet Camilla with a very FIXED smile on their face. And as for the regular folks - well there is a reason Diana was known as the People's Princess.

For some genuine humor plus the inside scoop on The Royals here is one of my favorite sites: http://www.throneout.com/
I doubt he will ever become King. I believe the Queen will pass him over and pick William.
 
  • #454
AlwaysShocked,

I have loved reading your posts -- you have great insight and an ability to articulate what's happening in this proceeding.

This case has always intrigued me. I viewed the FOX news presentation (with Greta Van Sustern) re: Diana's death and the supposed conspiracies attached to her death, and I have to admit, there were some fairly suspicious things mentioned during that one hour presentation.

I have just about every Diana book out there -- I LOVED HER. I really felt sympathy for her, yet, at the same time, I really do feel she contributed somewhat to the situation(s) she found herself in. Have to admit, though, I still blame most of what that poor woman went through on her husband. He was, after all, the older, wiser (supposedly) person in that marriage -- she was a young, very inexperienced ingenue -- merely 19 years old when she married. She had a lot of growing up to do and did not get the much needed support she obviously needed, to fulfill her role as Princess of Wales, from anyone in that family, much less Charles.

To me, one of the most important issues which hasn't been adequately addressed and which was brought out in the Greta/FOX presentation, was the discrepancy found with the blood/alcoholCO2 levels found in Henri's blood.

Henri's own family has repeatedly asked for documentation/facts surrounding what was found in Henri's blood levels and STILL, to this day, have not been presented with any of it.

Still, several of Henri's friends, two in fact, were interviewed for this documentary and they both stated that Henri did NOT drink much alcohol and was definitely NOT an alcoholic. In fact, if memory serves, Henri had a pre-arranged flight the night before (he was an advanced pilot) and he was CLEARED as to any blood alcohol being in his system that night (prior to the accident). I'd have to re-check my facts, there, but I know I saw something in this documentary which had something to do with a flight he had and the requisite blood testing which was required PRIOR to his flight. Some sort of flight test...can't remember exactly.

Yet, another issue, which was shown on video footage taken at the Ritz the evening of the crash is this, which was just astounding. This footage clearly showed Henri Paul bent over and TYING HIS SHOES just prior to their departure that night from the Ritz. He is quite obviously NOT drunk and VERY steady on his feet!

So -- conspiracy theory or not, I don't blame Dodi's father at all for insisting on a further inquest.

IF someone truly and ultimately caused the deaths of these poor people, then they should be held accountable. PERIOD. These people all have families...and clearly, the family of Henri Paul wants desperately to have some real answers to some of their questions and they have not yet been given to them.

It may be frustrating for some that just want to see this as a CASE CLOSED, but unless and until, some of the above issues are cleared up TRUTHFULLY, once and for all, then questions will always be out there as to what may have really happened.

 
  • #455
So lets assume: That with all of the people at the crash scene, that the Doctor performed an abortion and no one noticed anything going on. That the Doctor would have her "in the position" to do so and also have the necessary equipment too. Assuming also when the autopsy was performed that she was "not bleeding" from that area and when again the autopsy was performed "no abortion" was detected.

That means, all of the emergency personal, the photographers, the Police and the ambulance attendance and Doctors "were in on it and have said nothing". Remember there photos taken of Diana when she was "injured" in the car.

Also again, lets assume that Diana was murdered: There would have to be "a great deal" of planning in doing so and the circumstances would have to be carefully considered. The conspiracy would have to involve many people, especially Henri. Henri worked for Dodi as head of security. There were not "previous" plans to go to the apartment from the Ritz, as this was not pre-arranged. You would have to plan a conspiracy, when the variable are unknown with many people "to keep" quiet and not say anything to anyone ever.

I really don't think so. Occam's razor comes to mind when it comes to the known facts about this case, is is more likely many "unknown" people were involved in a conspiracy and the timing was variable along with the circumstances or speed, inexperience, and booze that caused the accident.

By the way: Diana was on the pill, the pregnancy "rumors" were put to rest.

With the type of reach the Royal Family has this is not impossible, imo. Yes, I understand it would take a great deal of planning and I also contend there are many variables to be dealt with however consider the types of 'persons' they have at their disposal on a day to day basis. There are specialized groups who plan much more intricate 'attacks' than this. It can be done and has in the past. Secret services of sorts have easily pulled off much more in our own country in front of WAY more people. We have black ops involved in things that would blow our minds. Why is it so hard to believe the Brits are any different? Or that they would go to such lengths to do so?
Yes, using Occam's Razor this doesn't work, but Occam's Razor can not be correct nor applied to things involving governments. We have NO idea of the true inner workings of such institutions. Not even in our own country. We are led to believe we do. Allowed to know bits and pieces, but come on, do you really think we know the truth? I know this might sound a bit :crazy: to some. Hell maybe most. But look at the history of our very own CIA and what has come to light recently regarding testing and experiments carried on in the past and recent past.

We'll never ever know the truth and I've resigned myself to that fact. But I will not accept it as a simple car accident. As for her being pg, no there wasn't any tests to prove it that were made public. Some close to her have stated she was and that both she and Dodi were thrilled. The Royals would never want this out anyway. It may bring questions. Was she on the pill? How can we be sure? Anyway, I have a friend who has twins to prove the pill is not perfect. This is the thing, we don't KNOW anything for sure. But the questions abound and Diana herself voiced her concern numerous times regarding her fears. The rantings of a paranoid woman? Or more. Remember the Royals are all about appearances. She did not fit.
 
  • #456
Plus, eventual DNA testing DID prove that the tested blood was a match to the parents of Henri Paul, so it was the driver's blood. In addition to alcohol, traces of the following medications were found in the drivers' blood: the anti-depressant Prozac; a medication that "makes you not want to drink alcohol" called Aotal, also known as Acamprosate; a drug used for "treating withdrawal symptoms" called Tiapridal or tiapride; and a drug used for "treating worms" called Zetel or albendazole.

How unfortunate that this man chose to drink while taking all of these medications, let alone drive a car!

Holy Crow! Since he has all these drugs in his system, I wonder if the Alfayed's were aware that he had a drinking problem and knew he was getting help for it. If that's the case, then he wouldn't dare tell them that nite that he'd been drinking and couldn't drive.
 
  • #457
Diana's injuries were all internal and in her chest area, from being slamed into the seat in front of her. Damn straight the seatbelt would have saved her life! Her passenger area of the car was intact and not collapsed. The choice not to put the belt on cost her life.

This is a case of a drunk driver, no seatbelts and speed. Millions die every year around the world from the same combination.

I totally agree with all you said.

I am also a huge Diana fan, I was inconsolable for days when she died. I still get teary watching footage of her and whenever I see her boys, I feel a sadness that she is not here sharing their lives.

Such a senseless waste of a life that meant so much, to so many. :(
 
  • #458
I don't think there was any conspiracy or anything I think it was a accident plain and simple. I think it is very sad that it came at a time where Princess Di finally was able to live a little and breathe! I also don't understand how the royal family will accept Camille into their life knowing she had an affair with what's his face during the time he was married to Diana. I feel that him marrying Camille was a huge disrespect to Dianas 2 sons. I loved Princess Di and I still get choke up thinking about her...:(

It's been rumored for years that Prince Philip had his own share of affairs so perhaps that's just how it is with them.
I don't believe that Charles was ever in love with Diana - he married her to produce heirs.
 
  • #459
I don't think Charles was ever in love with Diana. The real love story was always Charles and Camilla.
 
  • #460
No, the Queen demanded that Charles marry a young, titled virgin capable of providing heirs, and he found Diana. On the other hand, she may have had a definite set of ambitions that marrying the Prince of Wales fulfilled, but don't forget that she was a naive, 19 year old with stars in her eyes. Diana was duped.
 

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