The Globe July 17

[narlacat]

http://www.acandyrose.com/delmarengland.htm

Here is another link to ACR, garotte analysis.

 

[UKGuy]

These pictures look more like a noose with a stick tied to one end. What I have always thought to be a garrote was a devise with a handle at both ends of a ligature. People that make those and use them learned that method some place where their training would suggest that they may at some time in the future have the need or intent to kill fairly quickly. Anyway this devise shown in these pictures could have been made by anyone. So much for my theory of excluding the parents because of the garrote.

Mathew,

Yes you are correct, but you have Lou Smit to thank for promoting the notion that the garrote/ligature was created by a psychopathic intruder. I'm not certain where these notions arose from, whether by divine intervention, or collective prayer sessions with the Ramsey's? But they certainly misled many people and spawned some fantastic theories!

Also, although the garrote is patently staging this does not mean it was constructed for this purpose, it may have had a prior use in another staging!

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[narlacat]

What other staging UKGuy?

Or, as someone just pointed out recently, the rope could have been the original murder weapon then fashioned to resemble a garotte.

 

[UKGuy]

What other staging UKGuy?

Or, as someone just pointed out recently, the rope could have been the original murder weapon then fashioned to resemble a garotte.

narlacat,

Currently I think the application of the garrote was third in a sequence of staging.

This was likely the wine-cellar staging, and its main features are the garrote and ransom note. The barbie gown is a confirming factor to the ransom note.

A prior staging either elsewhere in the basement or upstairs may have employed the cord for another purpose.

This staging may have been the subject of the missing pages in the notepad.

Analysing events in this sequence makes the evidence less confusing.

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[Camper]

These pictures look more like a noose with a stick tied to one end. What I have always thought to be a garrote was a devise with a handle at both ends of a ligature. People that make those and use them learned that method some place where their training would suggest that they may at some time in the future have the need or intent to kill fairly quickly. Anyway this devise shown in these pictures could have been made by anyone. So much for my theory of excluding the parents because of the garrote.

Matthew, read my posts near the end of the "Lou Smit' thread, about knots, and the Ramseys potential for knowing how to tie knots.

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[Camper]

Mathew,

Yes you are correct, but you have Lou Smit to thank for promoting the notion that the garrote/ligature was created by a psychopathic intruder. I'm not certain where these notions arose from, whether by divine intervention, or collective prayer sessions with the Ramsey's? But they certainly misled many people and spawned some fantastic theories!

Also, although the garrote is patently staging this does not mean it was constructed for this purpose, it may have had a prior use in another staging!

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Read my links on the 'Lou Smit' thread near the end of the thread about knots.

The total rope used for the murder enterpise staging/etc, appears to me, to have been around the exact size of a piece of rope for 'practicing' knot tying. Size of 'practice' rope recommended in knot tying How TO books.

IF a book says cutapiece of rope 'thissize' for practice, whats the chance anyone is going to measure the rope with a yard stick or measuring tape?

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[BBB167893]

"What I have always thought to be a garrote was a devise with a handle at both ends of a ligature."

That's the standard definition, Mathew. Used by Mafia hitmen, covert ops troops, guerrillas, etc. It's quick and quiet. (Military history is one of my hobbies.)

"Anyway this devise shown in these pictures could have been made by anyone. So much for my theory of excluding the parents because of the garrote."

That's apparently what the investigators found. During a TV interview, Kane was dumbfounded to explain how people arrived at the conclusion that these were sophisticated knots. They weren't, he said.

"Yes you are correct, but you have Lou Smit to thank for promoting the notion that the garrote/ligature was created by a psychopathic intruder. I'm not certain where these notions arose from, whether by divine intervention, or collective prayer sessions with the Ramsey's? But they certainly misled many people and spawned some fantastic theories!"

He's as much to blame as anyone, UKGuy!

The liagture as seen is totally inefficient. The cord is so long, there'd be hardly any leverage.