The jonbenet Ramsey letter

  • #221
There was penetration with the paintbrush and possibly more. He changed his handwriting some time after to a new all caps style and at least one other example exists of him starting a letter with 'listen carefully'
 
  • #222
It's time to move past Oliva as the letter writer and the perp.
For one, Gary Oliva is a convicted pedophile, who, by definition has a sexual attraction to young children.

The object of his desire was JBR. He was obsessed with her, writing letters, poetry and even drawing pictures of her.
Then, according to intruder theorists, he devises a plan to be near her, risking capture and incarceration by breaking into her home.
Finally, when the object of his affection is close at hand and he can culminate his sexual fantasy...he doesn't!

She was not naked, no rape, no semen, no penetration, even though he is a convicted pedophile.
So what would have been the point of him going through all that trouble and risk?

No, he did not do this.
As further proof, here is the handwriting from one of his love letters to JBR compared to the writing on the ransom note.

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I think you've explained the exculpatory points of evidence for Oliva quite nicely. He thought she was pretty because she was gorgeous. He's a s freak or sorts. No tales of stalking her, calling her. It happened in his head and his mind in his bedroom or tent so her drew her pictures to hang on his wall. If he was present at TOD, where's his DNA?
She was not naked, no rape, no semen, no penetration, even though he is a convicted pedophile. rebm
This is not completely accurate. There was acute trauma from an inserted object into her vagina. It's likely the paintbrush was used as a tool to facilitate insertion as an attempt to cover up prior, chronic s abuse. A tiny sliver of wood from the brush was found inside her.

One reason to harm another is to make sure they keep their mouth shut. It's probable that whomever was abusing JonBenet was also her killer.

The Foreign Faction was like The Political Faction in Nick of Time (Johnny Depp, 1995). Kidnapping of a daughter. Attache' case. Ransom note said: Listen carefully. Film was shown at the White's Christmas Dinner Party.
 
  • #223
True Crime Garage just did a huge show (Podcast) about this case. There were about 10 episodes. If you get a chance, take a look.
 
  • #224
I think you've explained the exculpatory points of evidence for Oliva quite nicely. He thought she was pretty because she was gorgeous. He's a s freak or sorts. No tales of stalking her, calling her. It happened in his head and his mind in his bedroom or tent so her drew her pictures to hang on his wall. If he was present at TOD, where's his DNA?

This is not completely accurate. There was acute trauma from an inserted object into her vagina. It's likely the paintbrush was used as a tool to facilitate insertion as an attempt to cover up prior, chronic s abuse. A tiny sliver of wood from the brush was found inside her.

One reason to harm another is to make sure they keep their mouth shut. It's probable that whomever was abusing JonBenet was also her killer.

The Foreign Faction was like The Political Faction in Nick of Time (Johnny Depp, 1995). Kidnapping of a daughter. Attache' case. Ransom note said: Listen carefully. Film was shown at the White's Christmas Dinner Party.
The penetration I was referring to was from a male penis.
 
  • #225
I think you've explained the exculpatory points of evidence for Oliva quite nicely. He thought she was pretty because she was gorgeous. He's a s freak or sorts. No tales of stalking her, calling her. It happened in his head and his mind in his bedroom or tent so her drew her pictures to hang on his wall. If he was present at TOD, where's his DNA?

This is not completely accurate. There was acute trauma from an inserted object into her vagina. It's likely the paintbrush was used as a tool to facilitate insertion as an attempt to cover up prior, chronic s abuse. A tiny sliver of wood from the brush was found inside her.

One reason to harm another is to make sure they keep their mouth shut. It's probable that whomever was abusing JonBenet was also her killer.

The Foreign Faction was like The Political Faction in Nick of Time (Johnny Depp, 1995). Kidnapping of a daughter. Attache' case. Ransom note said: Listen carefully. Film was shown at the White's Christmas Dinner Party.
Yes, so did JR watch the film? He could have had his cell phone on, and as in the note "surveillance", which if the microphone is on on the cell phone, the perpetrator could hear. I think this person was already inside the Ramsey home at this time.
 
  • #226
I think John Ramsey was pegged as an elite white racist by someone he met, perhaps knew, and maybe hurt someone along time ago in his military service? And this kidnapping, torture and killing of his daughter was to ruin and hurt him.
 
  • #227
There was no intruder. There is no evidence of an intruder. Only the four family members were in the home Christmas night after returning home from the dinner party at the White's.
 
  • #228
Imo, another (better) question that should be asked is why JR would choose to include kidnapping if he was going to stage a coverup, when he knew certain protocols were called for by his job in case of a kidnapping, protocols that he didn't want to follow, as evidenced by the fact that he didn't follow them. Seems like kidnapping would be something he would rule out for this reason, when he was deciding on how to stage the coverup. imo.
this is an interesting point, and IMO adds to the pile of evidence JR wasn't involved in the writing of the RN, and maybe not in anything prior to 6 AM.

But back to the topic of this particular forum thread, re: the RN... I've never understood why the Sharpie keeps being used as evidence for PDI, as if there was only one Sharpie ever made in the world. Even only one black fine-tip Sharpie or whatever it was. Pretty sure those are pretty common, imo. And as far as i know, forensics can't tell us whether it was that same pen found in the house that was used. Just that same type of (common) pen (and even that seems to allow room for other possible pens that look the same on the page.) And the fact that Patsy's Sharpie pen was found to be in its usual place? Maybe that's because it was not the pen that was used to write the note! That can be evidence of that, maybe more so than evidence that it was. I'm not saying I believe either way, just that imo, there is room for reasonable doubt on that point.
i tend to think similarly to you. i think the secret service saying it was "the same pen" that was used for the ransom note would have to mean the same product number/line, not necessarily the same specific unit. they compared it to a library of 7000 ink standards and found a singular match. 7000 sounds like the number of product lines, not the total number of actual pens produced, which i assume is in the billions. hell, i have 7 pens sitting in a cup right in front of me, and i'm just one guy. ... if i'm understanding this right, they were not saying -- and likely could not say -- the ink uniquely matched a specific unit. just the same product. ...

if we were talking about identifying specific units based on ink composition, i am skeptical that is even possible. i'm sure there is some variation from one unit to the next, but i imagine the variation WITHIN each unit would be equal or greater. think about how much the composition would vary from top to bottom when you've leave it sitting, and it's separated. or if the inside was full of spongey stuff, because it was more like a marker, you'd still have the composition gradient due to differential "wicking", similar to a paper chromatography experiment. ... just too much error here to match specific units, IMO.

anyway, matching the pen product line still adds to the case, just not quite as strong as it sounds when one says "the pen used to write the note was in the house".
 

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