The Key: Planted or Not? Impact?

Quite possibly, or they found the key elsewhere and put it in the bedroom. Considering who actually found the key and the fact he was deposed in a $36 million civil suit a couple of weeks before, I am open to the idea of the key being planted.

Is there any evidence that the key actually was in SA's bedroom prior to 11/8 ?
SA had filed a $36 million lawsuit, doesn't mean he was going to get it.

I am still confused as to why Colborn was required to give a deposition. All he did was transfer a call and Avery's name wasn't even mentioned.

He was initially there to provide scene security and because he had training in evidence collection, was asked to help in the search. It's not like he rushed in and volunteered.

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Is there any evidence that the key actually was in SA's bedroom prior to 11/8 ?

If there was, that would mean that they found it there prior to 8th wouldn't it? He didn't just leave it lying around, he hid it.


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I totally agree with you but my questions run a little bit deeper than that 1. if the Avery family owned a junk yard why would they leave the car uncrushed in junkyard if they wanted to hide it. 2.How is it that the other county that did the original examination of SA's property did not find the key but when the other county was finally allowed to examine it the key was found laying on the floor by one of the people that was supposed to be deposed because they were one of the people THAT MADE THE MISTAKE OF ARRESTING HIM FOR RAPE TO BEGIN WITH.
 
Actually it was later proven that the DNA was transferred and the blood that was found in the van actually matched a vile of steve avery's blood that had been tampered with from when he was an inmate from before.
 
Actually it was later proven that the DNA was transferred and the blood that was found in the van actually matched a vile of steve avery's blood that had been tampered with from when he was an inmate from before.

It was not proven.... but I do think there are still hanging questions about the EDTA tests that were allowed to be done.

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Quite possibly, or they found the key elsewhere and put it in the bedroom. Considering who actually found the key and the fact he was deposed in a $36 million civil suit a couple of weeks before, I am open to the idea of the key being planted.

Is there any evidence that the key actually was in SA's bedroom prior to 11/8 ?

Also, the Rav4's doors were locked. Did it auto-lock feature? Otherwise, the doors were locked with a key.
 
I don't think this has any bearing on guilt or innocence, but in light of the fact that he kept the key, it makes sense that he locked the doors and in my opinion points more toward his guilt than innocence.
 
I don't think this has any bearing on guilt or innocence, but in light of the fact that he kept the key, it makes sense that he locked the doors and in my opinion points more toward his guilt than innocence.

I suppose since he burnt her belongings, wouldn't it be logical to burn the key as well?
 
SA had filed a $36 million lawsuit, doesn't mean he was going to get it.

I am still confused as to why Colborn was required to give a deposition. All he did was transfer a call and Avery's name wasn't even mentioned.

He was initially there to provide scene security and because he had training in evidence collection, was asked to help in the search. It's not like he rushed in and volunteered.

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Because they did not include that information to the Attorney General when they were initially investigated. Colborn, Lenk, Peterson, Rohrer were pulled into the Civil suit when the civil Lawyers found it during discovery to sue them. Peterson was on Dr. Phil, not to long ago and admits to knowing about that call back in 1995. And lied about the other sheriff putting that letter in a safe in 2003 when that sheriff was already retired. So there was chance they either be named later on the civil suit, or they could have not been named at all, just evidence that the Sheriff's office ignored evidence. Who did he transfer the call to back in 1995 like he said? They may have won this case then named another for the involvement of those other men, possibly. So they were just as much on the line as anyone else. Also did you know that Colborn ran for Sheriff in 2006 Had to have his paper work in by May 2006 to run. Do you think if he had been involved in this law suit it would look good for him Running for an elected Sheriff position?

JMO as always
 
I don't think this has any bearing on guilt or innocence, but in light of the fact that he kept the key, it makes sense that he locked the doors and in my opinion points more toward his guilt than innocence.

They planted that key. I have no doubt about that. All the evidence points to it. Even KK says So what if they planted it. That little shelf never moved from the wall as Sgt AC testified to.
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as you can see they moved those slippers to try to make it look more like the first picture including moving the dog back. The key was staged.
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He don't even mention the key in his little report he contributed to.
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But Lt. JL mentioned it in his report
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Plus they put on legal documentation a change of story from one warrant to another.
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KK closing statement mar 15 07
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Also this is my guestimation of that key in the shelf I think it would have been seen.
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If there was, that would mean that they found it there prior to 8th wouldn't it? He didn't just leave it lying around, he hid it.


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Not necessarily ... prior to 11/8, the key could have been found in the car or with the license plates or in TH's house for all we know.
And if LE had found it prior to 11/8, that would mean SA had put it there and they would have announced the find.
 
I suppose since he burnt her belongings, wouldn't it be logical to burn the key as well?

Avery guilt folks would argue that SA kept the key in case he needed to move the RAV later.
 
Yes it was the vial of blood that was in the possession of the police from when he was arrested before was examined and a tiny hole was found in the stopper of the size of a syringe
 
if the Avery family ran a junkyard they had a car crusher which is evident from all the crushed vehicles on the lot stacked on top of each other. Why if he had wanted to hide the vehicle so much was the RAV not crunched but only a board and some branches put over top of it? If you run a junkyard you are going to crush the autos in your lot not leave it untouched for your average person to find.
 
if the Avery family ran a junkyard they had a car crusher which is evident from all the crushed vehicles on the lot stacked on top of each other. Why if he had wanted to hide the vehicle so much was the RAV not crunched but only a board and some branches put over top of it? If you run a junkyard you are going to crush the autos in your lot not leave it untouched for your average person to find.

If you believe SA is guilty, the only reason for SA to hide the car would be to crush it later when the family wasn't around. However, there always is a lot of prep to be done before you can crush a car.
 
The fact that Colborn doesn't mention the "immediately significant" key he found in that report up there posted by MysticJynx is damning to me.
 
Why wouldn't a car be crushed immediately? Here's one reason: all salvageable parts would normally be stripped from any salvaged vehicle before being crushed. It's the standard thing done at salvage yards, and it's part of how they make their $$, selling used parts to others. Could be that was the intent and SA didn't get around to it for whatever reason. Why take the license plate off a vehicle if you *want* the vehicle to be found? Why take the time to put tree branches, wooden posts, lean stuff up against a vehicle if your intent is that the vehicle be seen and found? To me those are things to try and quickly obscure a vehicle. Not very well, but somewhat.

Why disconnect the battery? Again, this is part of normal operation at a salvage yard. If a battery is still good, then it can be sold to someone else. Disconnecting it keeps the battery from being drained. It also means the car cannot be easily stolen by someone hotwiring it and driving away.

As for the key itself, if that key was really tucked way back in that nightstand and it slipped down between the gap in the back panel (there's a picture of this floating around where you can see there's a gap) then it's possible it was missed until someone really looked in depth and jostled that night stand. The question is: how thoroughly was that particular piece of furniture searched before? Was stuff just moved around a bit? People looked through some papers in there but didn't take every.single.thing off the shelves? I don't know, but a half-assed looksee is not outside the realm of possibility. As easy as it is to say someone planted the key, it's just as probable or even more so that whoever did prior searches just didn't do a thorough job of the searches.

The issue I have with the key being planted theory is: that there needs to be someone who 1. had that key and then 2. handed that key to Colburn or Lenk for them to be able to plant. Who is that person? Without that, how does the key get into the hands of police in order for them to plant it?
 
OR

The person that PLANTED the vehicle, didn't think a documentary would be made, and ALL OF THEIR LIES WOULD BE EXPOSED.

Another reason, perhaps
Why wouldn't a car be crushed immediately? Here's one reason: all salvageable parts would normally be stripped from any salvaged vehicle before being crushed. It's the standard thing done at salvage yards, and it's part of how they make their $$, selling used parts to others. Could be that was the intent and SA didn't get around to it for whatever reason.

Why disconnect the battery? Again, this is part of normal operation at a salvage yard. If a battery is still good, then it can be sold to someone else. Disconnecting it keeps the battery from being drained. It also means the car cannot be easily stolen by someone hotwiring it and driving away.
 

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