The Murder of Janet Abaroa #1

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golfmom said:
Well, I'm glad so many of us gleaned so much info before it was dismantled. Was anyone able to get screen shots?
you can stil access the archives but it doesn't have all the stuff from 2005 on the archives. seems he may have been using hostway.com as his serving site. i know a little about them, i will see what i can dig up tonight!
 
PrayersForMaura said:
you can stil access the archives but it doesn't have all the stuff from 2005 on the archives. seems he may have been using hostway.com as his serving site. i know a little about them, i will see what i can dig up tonight!

I'm able to still get in there through my history, but I have no idea how to make screen shots.
 
golfmom said:
I'm able to still get in there through my history, but I have no idea how to make screen shots.
there's a program that might even be free (not sure) called snagIt ...
you can take "pictures" or screenshots and save them as .gifs or pretty much any file format...

Also, this page from his site is still accessible ... it was his blog with his sad story about his life .. http://ravenstree.blogspot.com/
That was the "my journal" page
 
http://web.archive.org/web/20040924045220/http://ravenstree.com/

he wrote


"
hdr_life.jpg





5.1.2003 My dear friend Jennifer (www.jenique.com) has helped me create this beautiful website that will act as a portal to my life for the viewing of my friends and family. I have many things in this life that I am passionate about, and I hope to highlight a few of those exciting things here. This section, my life, will be dedicated to the things I busy myself with. It will be a library of photography and fun as I document the road less traveled... Mine!!!!"

Yeah, his dear friend jennifer got a mention but where a mention of his beautiful wife Janet?!@? :mad:
 
See how the conveniences of life mess us up. When I start typing in the address in the address bar the correct address comes up. I think I was the culprit because I put the wrong link up there. Many apologies!
 
golfmom said:
Here it is . . . .
Thank you! :) I had seen that, and I guess that's all the family felt like submitting.

I was hoping that there would be a pre-funeral notice posted like families do in some parts of the country. They list the minister, the pallbearers, ALL survivors and their spouses and children, everything. I am seeking " Raven Abaroa's" birth name.. Obviously it is NOT Abaroa, and I have serious doubts about the Raven part as well.

I was re-reading his one BLOG page, written the day before Janet's murder where he talks so much about positives and negatives, successes and failures in his life. His mother was left alone with a houseful of small children, and he says they had a very hard life. It's possible that his mother changed all their names to totally erase the father from their lives.. If so, she may have also changed hers to Abaroa, in which case it's a non-issue. If he has used the name from early childhood, it doesn't matter at all.
If he changed it in the 1990's though, it could be for a reason other than to have a " cool new name".

I also keep going back to his comments about HIS soccer accomplishments, and the total lack of any documentation of such.
Unless he used another name, which is very possible, I think he out and out lied.
I keep remember the self- inflated lies of a fertilizer salesman in CA...
If a person will lie about things which should not matter to anyone at all, then chances are, they are habitual liars. I'm trying to form a clearer picture of the real and authentic Raven Abaroa. He writes, he changes, he deletes. What is substance and what is fluff? I see so much more undocumented fluff about himself and his adult accomplishments by the age of 25 than I can imagine a young successful man writing.

His BLOG should be called " Smoke and Mirrors", because that's what his life appears to be since he has been old enough to make all these internet entries.
 
Thinkoflaura said:
Thank you! :) I had seen that, and I guess that's all the family felt like submitting.

I was hoping that there would be a pre-funeral notice posted like families do in some parts of the country. They list the minister, the pallbearers, ALL survivors and their spouses and children, everything. I am seeking " Raven Abaroa's" birth name.. Obviously it is NOT Abaroa, and I have serious doubts about the Raven part as well.

I was re-reading his one BLOG page, written the day before Janet's murder where he talks so much about positives and negatives, successes and failures in his life. His mother was left alone with a houseful of small children, and he says they had a very hard life. It's possible that his mother changed all their names to totally erase the father from their lives.. If so, she may have also changed hers to Abaroa, in which case it's a non-issue. If he has used the name from early childhood, it doesn't matter at all.
If he changed it in the 1990's though, it could be for a reason other than to have a " cool new name".

I also keep going back to his comments about HIS soccer accomplishments, and the total lack of any documentation of such.
Unless he used another name, which is very possible, I think he out and out lied.
I keep remember the self- inflated lies of a fertilizer salesman in CA...
If a person will lie about things which should not matter to anyone at all, then chances are, they are habitual liars. I'm trying to form a clearer picture of the real and authentic Raven Abaroa. He writes, he changes, he deletes. What is substance and what is fluff? I see so much more undocumented fluff about himself and his adult accomplishments by the age of 25 than I can imagine a young successful man writing.

His BLOG should be called " Smoke and Mirrors", because that's what his life appears to be since he has been old enough to make all these internet entries.

I too was hoping to find more info on the families through the obit. I hate that it is so strangely quiet. Quite frankly, I got excited thinking that something might be happening on the website.

My daughter is a HS athlete with an unusual name. Google her name and tons of stuff pops up. Either he changed his name or he was not the super-soccer star he makes himself out to be. Besides, if he was so awesome he wouldn't have had to quote a coach that he had in grammar school.

Your analysis of the self-inflated s.o.b. is right on target IMHO and in my mind the plagiarism is another clue supporting that.

I want to be an Indian ...
I know I'll just copy and paste and magic I’m an expert on being an Indian.

Again, we are all speculating, and maybe he's not the one who killed Janet, but I'll tell you this much ... I wouldn't have wanted him as a friend no matter what.
 
golfmom said:
I too was hoping to find more info on the families through the obit. I hate that it is so strangely quiet. Quite frankly, I got excited thinking that something might be happening on the website.

My daughter is a HS athlete with an unusual name. Google her name and tons of stuff pops up. Either he changed his name or he was not the super-soccer star he makes himself out to be. Besides, if he was so awesome he wouldn't have had to quote a coach that he had in grammar school.

Your analysis of the self-inflated s.o.b. is right on target IMHO and in my mind the plagiarism is another clue supporting that.

I want to be an Indian ...
I know I'll just copy and paste and magic I’m an expert on being an Indian.

Again, we are all speculating, and maybe he's not the one who killed Janet, but I'll tell you this much ... I wouldn't have wanted him as a friend no matter what.
I'm so frustrated by the total silence in the case that I have written to all the North Caroliina Raleigh/ Durham outlets today. Like several of you, I have already written Greta and Nancy Grace, but the 2 murdered children in IL will be front and center for a long time now, even though a suspect is in custody.

I keep thinking that either the Abaroa case DNA and other physical evidence testing is not finished yet, that there was not enough to charge Raven, or that none of it matched Raven. If the evidence is back, I would think that they have enough to arrest him OR clear him as a suspect. If he is cleared, surely her murder will be elevated in status to include the Carrington- Sund Foundation, AMW and so forth.
We don't know that Raven is even still in NC or the USA. I worry greatly that with multiple felony counts of theft already facing him, the financial hardships with his career and the attorney fees plus the shadow of his wife's death hanging over his life, whether he is innocent or guilty, he may leave the country with Kaiden and go somewhere without US extradition. I'm trying so hard to not presume guilt on his part in her murder, just like you are.

About Googling and a name coming up: ITA, since he is only 25, and the Internet was in full bloom when he would have entered HS, I can't understand why none of the Olympic Training Camp stuff he says he coached and participated in shows up, if nothing else.

He also writes about his regret over his lack of formal education, which I took to mean his regret over not having a Bachelor's or Master's degree, but in re-reading what he retells about his early life, he was in 10 schools by the age of 17 and didn't have a chance to make friends. I am sure he didn't have a chance to learn cosistently either, if his reporting is accurate. He seems to have a great deal of regret about a lack of interpersonal skills with depth and meaning. Very strange that he posts this one day before Janet was murdered.

Did you notice that the name he signed his one current BLOG entry with is totally different from the "Raven Abaroa" name, even? I guess it's his self- chosen " Indian" name.
It's Ina’maqki’u wi’dishi’anun

His *new name* reminds me of the old classic Iron Butterfly tune In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
 
Thinkoflaura said:
It's Ina’maqki’u wi’dishi’anun

LOL .. yes, I noticed and googled (seriously I can't help myself). It was taken from the same website he plagerized.
 
golfmom said:
LOL .. yes, I noticed and googled (seriously I can't help myself). It was taken from the same website he plagerized.
ROFLOL, thank you for saving me the trouble. I had just amended my post a bit because I didn't know how to spell the Iron Butterfly classic song, had to Google that, and was going to Google the Indian thing to see if there might be other Internet sites associated with him or posts he has made on other peoples' BLOGS with the name.. I think we're Google Girls. :)

ETA: He is posting with the " In a majik" Indian name:

http://cedarmesa.blogspot.com/2005/04/echoes-from-road-palatki-ruins-sedona.html
Monday April 18,2005


"Ina’maqki’u wi’dishi’anun said... Scott, your pictures and comments were terrific. I am of native american and hispanic heritage. These pictures remind me of my youth while in Utah and California.
I think I'll look up some of your music now!"
 
Thinkoflaura said:
ROFLOL, thank you for saving me the trouble. I had just amended my post a bit because I didn't know how to spell the Iron Butterfly classic song, had to Google that, and was going to Google the Indian thing to see if there might be other Internet sites associated with him or posts he has made on other peoples' BLOGS with the name.. I think we're Google Girls. :)

He did! He did! He responded about some Indian Flute thing. LOL

We were posting at the same time. Damn we're good! :blowkiss:
 
Barbara2 said:
Maybe someone in VA can look up the marriage license and find out if that is his legal name.
If someone can tell me where they were married at in VA I might be able to either look it up myself or have someone look it up, depending on the area of VA they were married in....

Reading through the thread here...this is an interesting case...I might be heading to NC in a few days...wonder if I can do some sleuthing while there....:waitasec:
 
Do any of you have the link for her obit? I have been unsuccessful in finding it. I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks,:waitasec:
Lisa
 
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