The Murder of Janet Abaroa #1

[golfmom]

Aw, shucks. The funny thing is, blogging and messageboards have so much in common. They're like cousins, in my opinion. Funny phenomenon, huh?

:waitasec: I think my idea of bloggers have always been like Raven ...

blah, blah, blah, blah, more self absorbed info, blah, blah, blah

Obviously that is not the way you blog.

 

[misterallgood]

:waitasec: I think my idea of bloggers have always been like Raven ...

blah, blah, blah, blah, more self absorbed info, blah, blah, blah

Obviously that is not the way you blog.

You're very kind. You're right, as far as the blog you read is concerned. My personal one, probably more of that same -- thing is, I get boring after a while -- I bore me. That's why I wanted to do the 'true crime' blog. I was much more interested in the world outside my head.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

That is great that someone is reading some of our emails.

I had emailed Greta with 3 different media links ( with the names of the news outlets in NC) with the details of the murder. I used the form on the " On the record" to contact Greta or her staff and never received a reply.
Now I wonder if I should have used some other method to email her or her staff..

Maybe it takes a certain number of specific case inquiries before they look at something ?

I emailed Greta right after I had started readng this thread that MisterAllGood started... never received a response. Also emailed nancy grace.

 

[texasgirl]

Oh, yes. Thanks. Looks like someone has been googling this one, etc. from up there. Doesn't mean squatdoodle till it hits the airwaves, but it's a bit encouraging.

I was kind of hoping that the email header would help you to identify who was looking at your blog. I'm sure that my second email (with your blog link) wasn't paid much attention to since I think I just got lucky that they actually read and responded to my first one.

What does one of those headers tell you? I had to send one to ebay the other day because it got a spam email and I wasn't sure about it. So, that's how I learned to do that...The IP address is on the header that I got from On the Record, so have you identified that as one that was perhaps looking up info about Janet?

'Scuse me if I'm just blonde about these things...I was just wondering what you can find out and how. I'm just interested in how all of that works!

 

[misterallgood]

I was kind of hoping that the email header would help you to identify who was looking at your blog. I'm sure that my second email (with your blog link) wasn't paid much attention to since I think I just got lucky that they actually read and responded to my first one.

What does one of those headers tell you? I had to send one to ebay the other day because it got a spam email and I wasn't sure about it. So, that's how I learned to do that...The IP address is on the header that I got from On the Record, so have you identified that as one that was perhaps looking up info about Janet?

'Scuse me if I'm just blonde about these things...I was just wondering what you can find out and how. I'm just interested in how all of that works!

I was able to tell that someone using a computer with an Internet Protocol (IP) number that is part of the block assigned to Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which owns Fox, was looking at my site briefly today. The IP address in the header was not identical to the one you gave me, but it was still part of that block. The time was right -- in the 3 o'clock hour this afternoon.

As an aside; anyone who watch Nancy Grace like the show but get a little irritated by Nancy after a while? The subject is dramatic enough, Nancy, I mean, come on. Oh well, she's a southerner. We love our sense of drama down here, and I guess when I write I'm not much different. She does embody her past and present roles as someone who always advocates for victims. I think I like Greta's more "just the facts" style sometimes as opposed to Nancy's shouting and eye-rolling.

 

[Thinkoflaura]

I am going to be offline for a while, it appears. I hope that the next time I can access this thread, we will have things like a POI and police statements and NATIONAL NEWS coverage.

Mr.AllGood, keep on keeping on for Janet, please. Thank you so much for bringing this case forward. She deserved so much more in life and even in the notice of her passing than she received.
Google Girls and Google Guy, this is one more interesting case.

BBL

 

[lauriej]

I was able to tell that someone using a computer with an Internet Protocol (IP) number that is part of the block assigned to Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which owns Fox, was looking at my site briefly today. The IP address in the header was not identical to the one you gave me, but it was still part of that block. The time was right -- in the 3 o'clock hour this afternoon.

As an aside; anyone who watch Nancy Grace like the show but get a little irritated by Nancy after a while? The subject is dramatic enough, Nancy, I mean, come on. Oh well, she's a southerner. We love our sense of drama down here, and I guess when I write I'm not much different. She does embody her past and present roles as someone who always advocates for victims. I think I like Greta's more "just the facts" style sometimes as opposed to Nancy's shouting and eye-rolling.

.....that's quite fascinating, to know that you know that someone from Fox was browsing ...and i'm thrilled to hear that greta has replied to texaslady!

...it would be great, if, b/c of those of you here, that janet's case gets the recognition it deserves.....

...per your 'aside': love greta, even liked the 'old' cnn greta, but i love nancy too, rolling eyes and all! it's her thing, gets the ratings.........

 

[PrayersForMaura]

i wonder why there is no news?

 

[misterallgood]

i wonder why there is no news?

Good Question.

I had the bizarre thought occur to me; could it be there's something to it we couldn't possibly guess at? What if he claimed it was self-defense?

Doubt that, though, due to the newspaper descriptions of him being broken up when on the phone with family.

Interesting thing here is you can tell the local news outlets were sniffing something on the wind, but they've dropped it for the moment.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

Good Question.

I had the bizarre thought occur to me; could it be there's something to it we couldn't possibly guess at? What if he claimed it was self-defense?

Doubt that, though, due to the newspaper descriptions of him being broken up when on the phone with family.

Interesting thing here is you can tell the local news outlets were sniffing something on the wind, but they've dropped it for the moment.

would she have possibly killed herself?

 

[misterallgood]

would she have possibly killed herself?

That's the kind of unguessed-at thing I'm talking about, yes. Yet the police took a heckuva lot of evidence. I don't believe it was suicide for a minute, but who knows at this point?

 

[sharon25]

would she have possibly killed herself?

I would say doubtful- especially if she was stabbed multiple times.

What I am wondering about is that woman that people keep mentioning.. raven't female friend that helped him build a website.

Could there have been a romantic connection with Raven?
Could she have done it?
What about Janet?? Could she have been having an affair?

There are just soooooo many could've's in this case!!

I hope that everything will be answered in time.

 

[misterallgood]

Well, hopefully this means someone is interested;

http://[IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/indrid_cold/newscorpscreenshot.jpg[/IMG]

It's a screenshot of my webstats from my blog for a reader from news corp., the company that owns Fox. They were reading, according the stat counter, for nearly an hour. The IP is in the same block as the one in the headers from Greta V's e-mail, the block that news corp. owns.

Mr. A/Steve

 

[texasgirl]

IMO, this case is very news worthy....the lack of coverage on the case just really worries me. I mean this all in the best way possible, but you know how AMW won't profile a case unless it's intriguing and interesting to people? This case fits that bill so much...

Here's a beautiful All-American soccer player AND more importantly, mother, murdered in her home while her child is there...and there is just no news, nobody interested (other than us here of course) in talking about what happened? Do you guys think this is because the Jennifer Wilbanks story overshadowed this one, or do you think that LE has something up their sleeves and don't want to blow their case and with no news---there's just nothing to cover?

 

[texasgirl]

Well, hopefully this means someone is interested;

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v673/indrid_cold/newscorpscreenshot.jpg

It's a screenshot of my webstats from my blog for a reader from news corp., the company that owns Fox. They were reading, according the stat counter, for nearly an hour. The IP is in the same block as the one in the headers from Greta V's e-mail, the block that news corp. owns.

Mr. A/Steve

Mister A,

Good morning! Glad to see you're on the case!

That's such good news....I hope that they will give it at least a little air time! Your webstats are giving me a little hope!!!

 

[misterallgood]

Mister A,

Good morning! Glad to see you're on the case!

That's such good news....I hope that they will give it at least a little air time! Your webstats are giving me a little hope!!!

They appear to either be leaving their computer up on the page or reading a lot -- perhaps checking the Abaroa sites and referring back for more links. I don't wanna sidetrack us here by discussing that, or spook them into thinking I'm just hunting down webstats to monitor activity. I just noticed "news corp." in my statistics and felt encouraged that at least someone at a major news corporation is at least looking at this case. Still no guarantee they'll do anything about it... but at least someone, Greta or a producer, might be interested. I'd think the web element is pretty fascinating. Raven has put himself out there so much, unwittingly put his personality on display -- the moment one starts reading old versions of his site and comparing and contrasting with what's up now, he becomes very interesting.

 

[misterallgood]

proxy-ny.cbs.com
170.20.11.59
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These guys read too, sometimes, but I'm not sure why. I've had them pop up in my stats before. I believe one of their news mags is working on an unsolved murder I've written about, the double murder, actually, of Leslie Mazzara and Adriane Insogna in Napa, CA.

One of the most fascinating things about having your own website or blog is examining what people read and guessing at why. When you write about unsolved crimes, as I frequently do, I feel it's a requirement that I examine and take note of statistics on readers from time to time. It's a fact that some killers who are still scot-free will enjoy or at least be very interested in reading about what they did.

That said, I'm only checking a lot right now because I'm hoping some more light will be shed on Janet's murder if one of these guys gets involved. I originally focused on this crime because it happened the same night Jennifer Wilbanks disappeared, and I felt it was an obvious example of what turned out to be a non-serious crime robbing news coverage from a serious one.

 

[Thinkoflaura]

I guess I am dumb as a stump.. have a few questions for you.
When this crime first came to light, thanks to your first post, I could easily find Janet's murder BLOG entries. Now I can't.
Have you moved them?

Is there ANY chance that you will consider please putting her photo and her story as we know it from the news reports only back to front and center?
I keep thinking that somewhere, some way, someone can force this murder into the public eye in a big way.

I know people are looking at your BLOG, but as I understand it, you have at least 2 BLOGs. Could it be that they are looking at the " Shoeless murder in Louisiana" article and NOT Janet's ( the ones I can't find now are hers).
I am new to the concept of BLOGGING and if your focus is to be absolutely up to date topically, then I can see why her story is pushed back.

I read at Psyche's Knot BLOG, but something happened to cause her to lock the site or something and now I don't know how to read there. I thought it was great, and I read from it on the BTK case first. Yours is the second BLOG I have read. So both of you have gotten me interested in two fascinating cases.
It has been extremely rewarding to see the BTK killer named, proven by DNA and in jail awaiting trial.

Please continue to champion Janet's case. She deserves justice and a murderer needs to be caught.
One thing that has crossed my mind- have we discussed anything here which could be construed as a " tip" type of info? It would be very interesting to me to see how active LE is working on her case. It seems that Durham has NOT called in any outside help, probably under their belief that it is not a random crime, thus not involving any other jurisdiction.
I have read their area news daily and the numbers of murders and family related assaults seems to have captured the headlines daily in that area. Has her case been pushed aside by LE? Is there " something" which is causing the seeming apathy?

Forums have effected change and provided information to news outlets and LE in the past, as I understand it.
This is one case that I think needs some outside " push" to propel it forward. Maybe we have posted something here which might make a difference?

As far as we know, Raven Abaroa is not under any " umbrella of suspicion". It has not been reported that he has been questioned by police, etc.. Why, with his current pending criminal charges and seeming lack of employment, would he not flee the US *if* he is involved in any way in her murder? I keep thinking that he could easily do so because of his almost total anonymity due to her crime and photos of the couple never being publicized well.
( remembering Scott Peterson's dyed hair, fake ID attempt to flee to Mexico).

 

[misterallgood]

I guess I am dumb as a stump.. have a few questions for you.
When this crime first came to light, thanks to your first post, I could easily find Janet's murder BLOG entries. Now I can't.
Have you moved them?

No -- one I have put back in "draft" -- offline -- status, but the other two are available here;
The Murder of Janet Abaroa...Quiet, Questions...

A Real Crime from April 26, 2005 - The Murder of Janet Abaroa

I was given (legal) advice that I might need to be more careful with some of what I wrote, so I left one entry off-line and edited the other a bit.

Is there ANY chance that you will consider please putting her photo and her story as we know it from the news reports only back to front and center?
I keep thinking that somewhere, some way, someone can force this murder into the public eye in a big way.

I know people are looking at your BLOG, but as I understand it, you have at least 2 BLOGs. Could it be that they are looking at the " Shoeless murder in Louisiana" article and NOT Janet's ( the ones I can't find now are hers).
I am new to the concept of BLOGGING and if your focus is to be absolutely up to date topically, then I can see why her story is pushed back.

Trust me here -- few look at my other blog, it's more just personal blather, non-crime related usually. It would be very hard to ever confuse the two. The shoeless murder articles are in the same blog as the Abaroa murder entries. Here's the key to navigating a blog -- which you can just write in lower case, because it's short for "weblog" -- look on the main page -- http://www.planethuff.com/darkside -- on the right-hand side are various lists of links you can click. They are all pretty well-defined. Among them are my "true crime" archives. The Abaroa murder is always under "unsolved" at the moment. Blogs are always structured this way -- the main page, or index page, which will contain the most current entries, and yes, mine is tied into the news, it's true; my personal, "Steve" blog is not, but the Dark Side is -- and archives. So, when you look at the main page of a blog, look for a search box, and look for archives. If you happen onto archives directly, look at the top of the page for "Main" or just click on the blog's title.

I read at Psyche's Knot BLOG, but something happened to cause her to lock the site or something and now I don't know how to read there. I thought it was great, and I read from it on the BTK case first. Yours is the second BLOG I have read. So both of you have gotten me interested in two fascinating cases.
It has been extremely rewarding to see the BTK killer named, proven by DNA and in jail awaiting trial.

I don't know why Psyche closed her blog to general visitors -- she's very good. I think she may have been unnerved by some of her readers. When you write extensively about true crime, I'm beginning to think that the occasional scary comment or e-mail goes with the territory.

Please continue to champion Janet's case. She deserves justice and a murderer needs to be caught.
One thing that has crossed my mind- have we discussed anything here which could be construed as a " tip" type of info? It would be very interesting to me to see how active LE is working on her case. It seems that Durham has NOT called in any outside help, probably under their belief that it is not a random crime, thus not involving any other jurisdiction.
I have read their area news daily and the numbers of murders and family related assaults seems to have captured the headlines daily in that area. Has her case been pushed aside by LE? Is there " something" which is causing the seeming apathy?

Forums have effected change and provided information to news outlets and LE in the past, as I understand it.
This is one case that I think needs some outside " push" to propel it forward. Maybe we have posted something here which might make a difference?

As far as we know, Raven Abaroa is not under any " umbrella of suspicion". It has not been reported that he has been questioned by police, etc.. Why, with his current pending criminal charges and seeming lack of employment, would he not flee the US *if* he is involved in any way in her murder? I keep thinking that he could easily do so because of his almost total anonymity due to her crime and photos of the couple never being publicized well.
( remembering Scott Peterson's dyed hair, fake ID attempt to flee to Mexico).

I haven't started ignoring the case -- I am just tied to the flow of news, and there has been no news on this one for more than a week. I don't have the resources to investigate certain things myself -- believe me, if I did, I would. The closest I may come is the idea I have that I may attend the Barton Corbin trial here in Georgia when it begins, which would not tax me unduly as it's in the next county over and if it begins this summer my wife, who is a teacher, would be home.

I am going to do this, though -- I'm going to change the post date of the most recent Abaroa entry to keep it near the top of the main index page. I agree that this one needs to stay in the spotlight.

 

[Thinkoflaura]

Thanks! Now I know a bit more about navigating BLOGS, too.

Thank you for keeping the info alive on your site. I continue to be baffled at the lack of news, the lack of coverage of her murder in any national outlet, and the lack of Raven to put any info about a murderer on the loose on his website!

Ashtonishing apathy.