The Murder of Janet Abaroa #1

[PrayersForMaura]

PrayersForMaura, I posted her name as it is listed on a site she constructed.. Also, her location is UTAH.

yeah he lived and worked in utah for quite some time....

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Search result page for Abaroa/VA. The only interesting thing, (without paying for info.), is that there is information dated 10/01/2002 for Raven in both NC and VA. On 10/15/03, there's only information in VA, and then from 2/14/04 on, only in NC.

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[OriginalJerseyGirl]

For those of you that were interested in trying to find a family tree for Raven, this is the page that I got when I searched for Abaroa/Utah. It includes family names, (unless there is another Raven Abaroa - although this Raven Abaroa is listed as the same age as the one we're discussing here). Includes the following names under the same address:

ABAROA, SHILOH P
ABAROA, KAR S
ABAROA, RAVEN S
ABAROA, DEREK
ABAROA, JACOB P

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[NCBanker]

yeah he lived and worked in utah for quite some time....

Adultery does it every time. Something happens to the mind to make you think a completely different way - Satan fools you into thinking you can do certain things and get away with them, only then he turns on you so that you'll get caught and be miserable as he is. Mark Hacking had been unfaithful to his wife, as had Scott Peterson, Michael Peterson, and countless others. Adultery does it every time.

I'm not saying, however, that all adulterers are murderers. It's just a highly common occurrence that whenever someone kills their spouse, adultery is involved.

 

[PrayersForMaura]

For those of you that were interested in trying to find a family tree for Raven, this is the page that I got when I searched for Abaroa/Utah. It includes family names, (unless there is another Raven Abaroa). Includes the following names under the same address:

ABAROA, SHILOH P
ABAROA, KAR S
ABAROA, RAVEN S
ABAROA, DEREK
ABAROA, JACOB P

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I found Janet's family's genealogy rather easily but Raven's is a little harder to find.

I know his grandfather's name is Ramon Vidal Abaroa
and that he died in 1999.
I am still searching....

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

So there are background reports available, with address information, for Raven Abaroa in the following states on the following dates:

March 1999 - Virginia
July 2001 - Virginia & Utah (This Utah address also includes the name Derek Abaroa for the same time.)
October 2002 - Virginia & North Carolina
March 2003 - Arizona (This address includes the names Mildred, Fred, Michele, Steven, and Ramon. Four names from this group are available in May 2001 at an address in California with MUCH different ages listed. :waitasec: )
August 2003 - Utah
October 2003 - Virginia
June 2004 - North Carolina
January 2005 - North Carolina
May 2005 - North Carolina

What does it all mean? I have no idea. LOL. But it was fun searching for it since I can't find anything else about him as of yet.

Does it mean that Raven used addresses in those different states at the same time?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I found Janet's family's genealogy rather easily but Raven's is a little harder to find.

I'm not good at the genealogy stuff. So I hope the names in that list might help to find something.

 

[misterallgood]

This thread is getting awfully big.

Think a moderator could move it into a different place? It's near 10,000 views at this point. I don't know the protocol for that here, so I figured I'd ask.

Mr.A/Steve

 

[Thinkoflaura]

I think he has a lot of family still in Utah, and that Raven and his little family visited last Christmas. The last page of his current website shows Kaiden last Christmas with Raven's relatives. The ones with the tan skinned brown eyed baby boy is titled " cousins" when you right click on properties.
The one with both babies and Raven and a darker skinned Latino appearing man and the darker skinned baby is titled brothers/ cousins. No first name is given. The adult female in the photos is also Latina in appearance. Raven is much lighter skinned, but I think he probably has very dark hair and eyes, if not for bleaching his hair and wearing blue contact lens. ( I found one photo of him wearing glasses, so I suspect he wears tinted contacts).

http://www.ravenstree.com/images/Family05/BrothersCousins.jpg

Makes me wonder if he managed to spend some alone time with another woman at Christmas... just speculation, but it would fit.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Raven is much lighter skinned, but I think he probably has very dark hair and eyes, if not for bleaching his hair and wearing blue contact lens.

There are a couple of pictures of a guy holding the baby when they were on their way to a soccer game. At first, I wondered who the guy was. But then I wondered if it is Raven in the photos with shorter hair without the bleach. I'll have to check them out on the page again. Do you know if it is Raven in those photos or if it is someone else?

 

[golfmom]

I think he has a lot of family still in Utah, and that Raven and his little family visited last Christmas. The last page of his current website shows Kaiden last Christmas with Raven's relatives. The ones with the tan skinned brown eyed baby boy is titled " cousins" when you right click on properties.
The one with both babies and Raven and a darker skinned Latino appearing man and the darker skinned baby is titled brothers/ cousins. No first name is given. The adult female in the photos is also Latina in appearance. Raven is much lighter skinned, but I think he probably has very dark hair and eyes, if not for bleaching his hair and wearing blue contact lens. ( I found one photo of him wearing glasses, so I suspect he wears tinted contacts).

http://www.ravenstree.com/images/Family05/BrothersCousins.jpg

Makes me wonder if he managed to spend some alone time with another woman at Christmas... just speculation, but it would fit.

I looked at that for awhile and pondered what it meant. he did mention visiting extended family ... maybe Raven considered this man a *blood brother*.

" - Here we are visiting with Jake Wilde and his wife Melissa and little boy Isaiah. " The picture has 3 couples and 3 babies so I don't know which couple Raven was referring to here

 

[golfmom]

There are a couple of pictures of a guy holding the baby when they were on their way to a soccer game. At first, I wondered who the guy was. But then I wondered if it is Raven in the photos with shorter hair without the bleach. I'll have to check them out on the page again. Do you know if it is Raven in those photos or if it is someone else?

I am completely creeped out now. I thought for sure it was a friend, but after looking at it again .......... I'm not sure.

 

[misterallgood]

I've posted a new blog entry about this one;

The Murder of Janet Abaroa...Dear "JustMad1"...

It contains links at the bottom of the entry to my previous 4 entries as well.

Mr. A/Steve

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

Okay, this is weird. On 5/17/2001, we have a background report on the following people at an address in California, (all named Abaroa):

Ramon, age listed 82
Mildred, age listed 78
Fred, age listed 77
Ronald, no age listed.

On 3/21/2003, we have some of the same names at an address in Arizona but look at the ages:

Mildred, age listed 42
Fred, age listed 42
Michele, age listed 42
Steven, age listed 48
Ramon, age listed 81
Raven, no age listed

These groups of names can't possibly be coincidental. So are they just bad records, (a mistake was made when entering the data), or is there something deeper to these discrepancies? Anyway, there are a bunch of names here to work with so maybe, just maybe we can start to find out something - anything.

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

I am completely creeped out now. I thought for sure it was a friend, but after looking at it again .......... I'm not sure.

I think it's Raven. Look at the nostrils and the thickness of the lips. I'm fairly confident those pictures are of Raven.

 

[golfmom]

These groups of names can't possibly be coincidental. So are they just bad records, (a mistake was made when entering the data), or is there something deeper to these discrepancies? Anyway, there are a bunch of names here to work with so maybe, just maybe we can start to find out something - anything.

JG, I did this earlier too, but didn't understand the age discrepancies either. It still doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[golfmom]

I think it's Raven. Look at the nostrils and the thickness of the lips. I'm fairly confident those pictures are of Raven.

I took the photo over to photoshop and corrected the tint and lighting and I gotta say I think you're right. edited to add: check the ears and teeth too.

With all of Raven's *impressive* photoshop skills (LOL) you would think he'd know how to clean up a photo (without removing a nose).

Why would anyone radically make themselves over twice in such a short period of time?

 

[OriginalJerseyGirl]

JG, I did this earlier too, but didn't understand the age discrepancies either. It still doesn't make any sense to me.

Do you know if these background reports being available at addresses in different states at the same time indicate anything? Would it indicate that he was claiming residence in different places for less than desirable reasons? Also, if he and Janet were married for five years, why is he listed at addresses with people other than her, in several different states during years that he was married to her?

As for the age discrepancies, I wondered if it was possibly a scamming issue or simply a mistake. (I feel like such a dork even saying scamming issue - what can I say, I'm a suspicious person.) :crazy:

 

[golfmom]

Do you know if these background reports being available at addresses in different states at the same time indicate anything? Would it indicate that he was claiming residence in different places for less than desirable reasons? Also, if he and Janet were married for five years, why is he listed at addresses with people other than her, in several different states during years that he was married to her?

As for the age discrepancies, I wondered if it was possibly a scamming issue or simply a mistake. (I feel like such a dork even saying scamming issue - what can I say, I'm a suspicious person.) :crazy:

I didn't want to pay for the report either, but just noted the discrepancies. But I gotta say that the idea of these folks scamming popped in my mind too. :blowkiss:

 

[Jenifred]

This is my first post to this message board, but I have been following this story (thank you Mr. All Good for your blog!), since I found out about it from my sister-in-law. I went to the same college as Janet and Raven. I knew of them, but you know of everyone in a college that small. I've got some answers to a few of people's questions in previous posts. 1--The trust fund. The only trust fund that Janet's parents endorse (or so I've been told from an employee at SVU) is the fund that was created at SVU in her name. 2--Janet and Raven were not married in a Mormon temple. 3--Raven did not serve an LDS mission. 4--He was enrolled at SVU while I was there. And he played soccer, of course. And he never graduated. 5--He was at the funeral that was held in Buena Vista and the baby was with him as well as family.
I am a Mormon too, and crimes like these intrigue me. He should know better, just as any other God-fearing person should know better. But he'll have his in the end.