The Pink Shirt

[twall]

Is this the pink shirt Haleigh supposedly had on that day at school? If it is, Who washed the shirt, when did they wash it, and why did they wash it... Also WHO folded it and WHEN was it put it in the dresser?

I am assuming it is and I assume Misty washed it with Haleigh's blanket, folded it and put it away before 911 was called to report Haleigh missing. IF it is even the one Haleigh wore on Feb. 9, 2009. Why it was washed imo was to get rid of any signs of what happened to Haleigh, DNA from someone, vomit, urine, etc. It is very possible Haleigh wore a pink shirt that day. To me "pink shirt" is a very vague description. I know my 5 yr. old dd has more than one pink shirt in her wardrobe at this time. I do recall a description of Hannah Montana being on the shirt, but can't remember where this statement came from. Does anyone remember?
There is a video of TJ Hart interviewing Gary Bowling about the shirt. He states the shirt was found but would not say where or what condition it was in.
IMO Haleigh was never put to bed that night, never wore pj's and was not wearing anything when taken from the home, therefore Misty cannot ever describe what she was wearing when she disappeared.

JMO

 

[lonetraveler]

I don't recall Cobra discussing the shirt being clean and folded in a dresser but I do not listen to the internet radio show he is on, either. Not saying Cobra didn't say that, I just am not aware of it.
I do recall when Levi had C. Jones on his show C. Jones stated Misty told him the pink shirt was found in a dresser, clean and folded.

OMG, you're right, it wasn't Cobra, it was C. Jones. Hey, they both start with C. :croc: That is where I heard it. Thanks for helping me remember.

ETA: It was Levi too and not that OTHER talk show. LOL.

 

[lonetraveler]

O/T but in the TV video from the very start that showed Haleigh's closet of clothes.
The clothes all seemed new.

When I saw the new clothes hanging in Haleigh's closet I immediately thought that GGMS had brought them over from her house and that they were not in the closet the night that Haleigh disappeared. JMO.

 

[lonetraveler]

Is this the pink shirt Haleigh supposedly had on that day at school? If it is, Who washed the shirt, when did they wash it, and why did they wash it... Also WHO folded it and WHEN was it put it in the dresser?

Wish I knew. C. Jones just mentioned that he heard this from Misty.

 

[lonetraveler]

GGM didn't tell us this part, way back when, when her memory was fresh and her ire present. Remember, "That's a CROCK!" is Annette Sykes' first comment regarding the story that maybe no one was home. Why wouldn't she remember that the children were half naked? As we learned later from AS (yet another admission which she never mentioned in her first story) she was more than PO'd that Ron had even brought Misty back into the house. Why wouldn't she be mad at Misty for having the kids half naked in cool evening air? But no, she says everyone was pleasant and helpful and the kids loved on her and she went on home. Nine days after Haleigh disappears, she's mad enough at the stories flying that she sets her fanny directly into the center of the LE investigation by saying she was at the MH and everything was fine.

I tell you what, I'd be PO'd and still PO'd that I found my grandchild in the cold night air half dressed and eating ravs with no one around (Misty came out, says AS). And I'd be tellin' that part of the story, too. Let's hope LE heard it the first time AS told her story, and it's only with the public that she releases it in tiny snippets.

But if nothing else, we know that the pink shirt Haleigh wore to school (that was found by Misty in the pile) that day was NOT in the basket of laundry AS says she brought to the MH that night.

Well, one of the stories for that Monday was that Ron, Misty and Haleigh hurried over to GGMS' house that morning because Haleigh wanted to wear a certain outfit. So, if there is any truth at all to this story, then GGMs knows exactly what Haleigh was wearing to school that day that Misty "took her by the hand and walked her to her classroom". Of course, that is just one of the stories du jour.

 

[Wendy101]

Grandma S said she does all of HaLeigh's laundry...

Is this the pink shirt Haleigh supposedly had on that day at school? If it is, Who washed the shirt, when did they wash it, and why did they wash it... Also WHO folded it and WHEN was it put it in the dresser?

 

[Whisperer]

Ron spoke of a stain that morning of feb9 and that is the reason he was rushing past the bus stop in a wreckless manner....because Haleigh spilled something on her shirt. Maybe she was wearing the pink shirt and changed at GM Sykes. Problem is that makes rc a liar because he says he took Haleigh to the bus in the morning and never spoke of going to Welaka.

But if misty was telling the truth, the pink Hanna Shirt could have been changed at Granny's and returned later, fresh, cleaned and placed in a drawer. Why the conflicting stories from rc and misty?

 

[Whisperer]

rc and misty have not agreed on any story yet regarding that night with the exception of the door being locked and somebody had to break in and come through the back door and steal Haleigh. That is the only thing they are sure about.

 

[AlmostGone]

After reading this thread I'm kinda wondering what misty and ron were wearing earlyer in the day and if those cloths had changed... I'm wondering if LE looked into that after the pink shirt was found clean.. QUESTION, what was misty washing in the machine? Was it blankets or?

 

[Emeralgem]

Grandma S said she does all of HaLeigh's laundry...

I'm thnking GGMS treated and washed that shirt to remove all traces of any blood stains....JMO

 

[Kat]

I am assuming it is and I assume Misty washed it with Haleigh's blanket, folded it and put it away before 911 was called to report Haleigh missing. IF it is even the one Haleigh wore on Feb. 9, 2009. Why it was washed imo was to get rid of any signs of what happened to Haleigh, DNA from someone, vomit, urine, etc. It is very possible Haleigh wore a pink shirt that day. To me "pink shirt" is a very vague description. I know my 5 yr. old dd has more than one pink shirt in her wardrobe at this time. I do recall a description of Hannah Montana being on the shirt, but can't remember where this statement came from. Does anyone remember?
There is a video of TJ Hart interviewing Gary Bowling about the shirt. He states the shirt was found but would not say where or what condition it was in.
IMO Haleigh was never put to bed that night, never wore pj's and was not wearing anything when taken from the home, therefore Misty cannot ever describe what she was wearing when she disappeared.

JMO

Hi Twall, jumping off your post my comments aren't directed at you.

Interesting that MC has said she was washing blankets. How did she wash blankets AND a pink shirt if there was no laundry detergent?

LINK where Tim M relates this info:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtQegfTOc4Q
9/13/09

(IMHO in the opening moments of that video show MC at one of her most manipulative moments.)

When I saw the new clothes hanging in Haleigh's closet I immediately thought that GGMS had brought them over from her house and that they were not in the closet the night that Haleigh disappeared. JMO.

Exactly LT. I know little girls I raised 3 of my own and 2 step daughters. But I a hard time believing that a little girl with a closet full of brand new clothes couldn't be gently talked into wearing something brand new (!) and having the favorite shirt for the next day. KWIM?

Well, one of the stories for that Monday was that Ron, Misty and Haleigh hurried over to GGMS' house that morning because Haleigh wanted to wear a certain outfit. So, if there is any truth at all to this story, then GGMs knows exactly what Haleigh was wearing to school that day that Misty "took her by the hand and walked her to her classroom". Of course, that is just one of the stories du jour.

Yes she would wouldn't she? I agree. I'll wait because we don't know what GGS said to LE and at what point.

Ron spoke of a stain that morning of feb9 and that is the reason he was rushing past the bus stop in a wreckless manner....because Haleigh spilled something on her shirt. Maybe she was wearing the pink shirt and changed at GM Sykes. Problem is that makes rc a liar because he says he took Haleigh to the bus in the morning and never spoke of going to Welaka.

But if misty was telling the truth, the pink Hanna Shirt could have been changed at Granny's and returned later, fresh, cleaned and placed in a drawer. Why the conflicting stories from rc and misty?

I don't trust that the shirt was found in the drawer. I think it was found by LE and they lead MC through the house watching her, esp. when she found the shirt. (just jumping off your post!)

I'm thnking GGMS treated and washed that shirt to remove all traces of any blood stains....JMO

I'm not sure she could have gotten it back into the house without LE seeing but I could be wrong. But your post brought up something to the forefront of my mind.

A question~ because i am having a hard time finding news articles that have live links still.

When a search was done of the MH. The LE took out a panel of wall and what was behind that? I am thinking it might have been a waterpipe trap for the washer? KWIM? I do not know how the water pipes are that run within a MH from a washer? Just curious.

all of the above except what is supported by link is JMVHO.

 

[bessie]

Ron spoke of a stain that morning of feb9 and that is the reason he was rushing past the bus stop in a wreckless manner....because Haleigh spilled something on her shirt. Maybe she was wearing the pink shirt and changed at GM Sykes. Problem is that makes rc a liar because he says he took Haleigh to the bus in the morning and never spoke of going to Welaka.

But if misty was telling the truth, the pink Hanna Shirt could have been changed at Granny's and returned later, fresh, cleaned and placed in a drawer. Why the conflicting stories from rc and misty?

I suspect Misty and Ron were both telling the truth but leaving out part of the story. Maybe Haleigh did spill something on her shirt that morning and Ron got angry and hit her. There was nothing else to wear -- or nothing Haleigh wanted to wear -- because most of her clothes were at GGS's house. Ron was sorry that he hit her, and to appease her, he drove her to GGS's house to change into something she liked. Granny washed the first shirt and returned it later that evening. Ron wouldn't want to answer questions about why he drove all the way to Welaka before school that morning so he left out that part. Misty left out the part about Ron hitting Haleigh, but she thought driving to Welaka made him look like a nice father.

 

[twall]

Hi Twall, jumping off your post my comments aren't directed at you.

Interesting that MC has said she was washing blankets. How did she wash blankets AND a pink shirt if there was no laundry detergent?

LINK where Tim M relates this info:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtQegfTOc4Q
9/13/09

(IMHO in the opening moments of that video show MC at one of her most manipulative moments.)



Exactly LT. I know little girls I raised 3 of my own and 2 step daughters. But I a hard time believing that a little girl with a closet full of brand new clothes couldn't be gently talked into wearing something brand new (!) and having the favorite shirt for the next day. KWIM?



Yes she would wouldn't she? I agree. I'll wait because we don't know what GGS said to LE and at what point.



I don't trust that the shirt was found in the drawer. I think it was found by LE and they lead MC through the house watching her, esp. when she found the shirt. (just jumping off your post!)



I'm not sure she could have gotten it back into the house without LE seeing but I could be wrong. But your post brought up something to the forefront of my mind.

A question~ because i am having a hard time finding news articles that have live links still.

When a search was done of the MH. The LE took out a panel of wall and what was behind that? I am thinking it might have been a waterpipe trap for the washer? KWIM? I do not know how the water pipes are that run within a MH from a washer? Just curious.

all of the above except what is supported by link is JMVHO.

She could have washed them with another kind of soap-dish soap, body wash, shampoo, etc. We don't even know if it is true there was no laundry soap-Ron relayed that info. to Tim Miller so who knows?

Where do you think LE found the pink shirt?
I can't get past the press conference when a reporter asked Hardy about the pink shirt-the reporter told Hardy that Misty had told the media the pink shirt was found in a dirty clothes pile in the home. He acted very weird and asked the reporter "Is that what she told you?" like ok, I'll go along with that even though it isn't true.

JMO

 

[Kat]

I hadn't seen Hardy say that. That does change things. You're right.

I had thought that it was in the pile of dirty clothes in front of the washer. Even though they weren't on the floor during the walk through. A lot of people, not everyone will drop dirty clothes in front of a washer and then do them at night. JMHO.

 

[elle1919]

She could have washed them with another kind of soap-dish soap, body wash, shampoo, etc. We don't even know if it is true there was no laundry soap-Ron relayed that info. to Tim Miller so who knows?

Where do you think LE found the pink shirt?
I can't get past the press conference when a reporter asked Hardy about the pink shirt-the reporter told Hardy that Misty had told the media the pink shirt was found in a dirty clothes pile in the home. He acted very weird and asked the reporter "Is that what she told you?" like ok, I'll go along with that even though it isn't true.

JMO

Not what he said, he never said the statement Bowling made about the pink shirt wasn't true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tTc-nn5GaQ

He said he would not comment on his interviews with Misty about the shirt because they were directly related to his investigation. The the reporter said Major Bowling already stated the shirt was never worn outside the home and Hardy said if Major Bowling made the statement that the pink shirt was not worn outside the house then he( Hardy) would go ahead and live with it.

 

[twall]

Not what he said, he never said the statement Bowling made about the pink shirt wasn't true.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tTc-nn5GaQ

He said he would not comment on his interviews with Misty about the shirt because they were directly related to his investigation. The the reporter said Major Bowling already stated the shirt was never worn outside the home and Hardy said if Major Bowling made the statement that the pink shirt was not worn outside the house then he( Hardy) would go ahead and live with it.

Where in my post did I say anything about Hardy saying Bowling's statement wasn't true? I never said anything about Hardy referring to Bowling's statement at all! The part I was referring to that was odd to me was when Hardy responded with "What has Misty told the media?" and after that he acted to me like what she told them about where the pink shirt was found wasn't the truth, not what Bowling said wasn't the truth!
Please don't twist my words around to imply I stated something when I clearly didn't! thanks!

 

[elle1919]

Where in my post did I say anything about Hardy saying Bowling's statement wasn't true? I never said anything about Hardy referring to Bowling's statement at all! The part I was referring to that was odd to me was when Hardy responded with "What has Misty told the media?" and after that he acted to me like what she told them about where the pink shirt was found wasn't the truth, not what Bowling said wasn't the truth!
Please don't twist my words around to imply I stated something when I clearly didn't! thanks!

I wasn't trying to twist your words twall, I was trying to offer an accurate representation of what Sheriff Hardy stated in the press conference that you referred to. If I misunderstood your point then I apologize. I thought your stance was that S Hardy was implying that Misty was lying about where the pink shirt was discovered, when in truth he stated in the press conference that he would not comment on Misty's statement about the shirt because her interviews with her were part of their investigation. It was actually the male reporter who persisted with the questioning about the pink shirt, stating that Major Bowling had already made the comment that the shirt was never worn outside the home, then Sheriff Hardy said he would have to live with that statement. Again, I wasn't trying to twist your words, I thought by posting the press conference it might clear up what was actually said. Again, I apologize.

 

[Whisperer]

I choose to believe Bowling. The Shirt was not worn outside the house. This tells me that the shirt was laundered and in the MH or someone's home.(unlikely but must be considered)

If Haleigh did wear the Hannah Montana shirt that day, somewhere during the day, the shirt was laundered and most likely folded. This could mean this was the shirt that had the "Stain". My guess is this shirt was picked up or given to GMA and she washed it and either returned it the MH or kept it at her home. (unlikely, but must be considered)

GMA doesn't like "stains" on their clothes. Ron mentioned "stained" concerning the shirt she was wearing to school. Pink Shirt = relevant. Is this the shirt Haleigh origianlly wore that day?

GMA should be able to tell what Haleigh wore to school, what clothes she was wearing when last seen...since Haleigh was put to bed minutes after she left. She should also know exaclty what clothes are missing.

 

[TobyWong*]

You know I had never considered the shirt to much. I chalked the confusion up to misty just not being aware of much. But I after reading what i could about it, i swear it sounds like misty did not know the last thing Haleigh had on and that ggs brought laundry to the mh and put clean shirts on the kids. (i've read so much I cannot find that link in particular) Maybe misty just threw out the pink shirt cause it would fit being that Haleigh prolly had a few pink shirts. So I've been wondering if the kids were left home alone and ggms was sent there to really check on them and put some fresh clothes on them and then just left them there cause she(ggms) was under the impression that someone was gonna be there shortly to take care of the kids.?? i don't know. I can't wait to hear what LE says her reaction was to "finding" the shirt in the mh. I mean why even point it out and say hey thats the one i said she was weraing.? why not just ignore it? It would've made things a little easier for misty if she never pointed it out.iykwim?
It sounds more and more like misty was given a very brief script to follow and had to make up the rest when asked pointed questions.

 

[suspicious1]

Why, if LE had access to this house this entire time, did they not already discover the pink shirt in the laundry? What possible motive could Misty have for pulling that shirt out of the laundry and giving it to LE, if she is guilty of anything?

I would assume that LE talked to Haleigh's teacher and the bus driver to see if they remembered what Haleigh was wearing her last day. IMO, the teachers and/or bus driver described this same pink shirt. So LE knew that Haleigh had been in this pink shirt earlier that day of Feb 9. I think they were confused by it being found in the mh prior to them taking Misty back inside to "find" it. IMO, they were well aware that this was indeed the shirt Haleigh had on, LE just wanted to see if Misty would point out this exact shirt. So they questioned how the shirt ended up in the laundry.

Does she think that maybe finding a pink shirt in the laundry and telling police/investigators that it was the one Haleigh had on take some suspicion off of her?

IMO, that's exactly why I think Misty pointed out this shirt.

this pink shirt thing has actually swayed me more to the idea that misty is innocent. i think misty just didn't know what haleigh was wearing (for one reason or another), and she thought/guessed it was a pink shirt.

I think that the last time Misty saw Haleigh on Feb 9th, Haleigh had on this pink shirt. I think at some point that evening Misty left. And I think Misty left the situation in GMSykes and Teresa's hand. Right after it came out that Misty had found the pink shirt....LE came out and said they didn't think that Misty was there that evening. The hours in question was 10p-2a. Both Teresa and GMSykes tried to provide a cover for that story...and admitted that GMSykes had gone by the mh.

Everything bolded is me talking... (except for the part bolded in the first news article...not my words, but still my bold)

OK, I'm confused again...

When we first found out about the pink tee being found in the laundry, the article said Misty discovered it on Monday, which would have been Feb. 16.
http://www.jacksonville.com/news/metro/crime/2009-02-16/story/search_for_haleigh_scales_back
In the interview Wednesday, Croslin said Haleigh watched “Madagascar” and “AirBud” with her brother, then snuggled beneath a blanket in a pink Hannah Montana top. She reported Haleigh was wearing that top when she disappeared.

However, Croslin said she found the shirt on Monday, when she was allowed back inside the doublewide mobile home for the first time since the disappearance. She was there to discuss the layout of the mobile home with investigators and was looking for the clothes Haleigh wore her last day at school.

She then saw the Hannah Montana shirt in a laundry pile by the back door. “When I put her blanket on she had that shirt on,” Croslin told the Times-Union on Wednesday.

She said she has no idea how the shirt wound up there.

BBM

I think Misty was being honest when she said she didn't know how the shirt wound up in the laundry pile.

Respectfully snipped.
Didn't a neighbor hear a female screaming around 2:25 am on the night that Haleigh disappeared?

That's correct and prior to that (10p-2a) LE speculated that Misty wasn't at the mh. IMO, it was Misty who was heard screaming and then later crying on the phone to someone prior to the 911 call. IMO, Misty had just found out that Haleigh was dead. The last visual Misty had of Haleigh, I think Haleigh had been injured in that pink shirt. But the fact that Misty left, and IMO, GMSykes and Teresa both knew this because they were left to take over the situation, Misty was unaware that Haleigh, at some point after she left, had been changed into another shirt. Who changed the shirt???

Nancy Grace - April 22, 2010

NANCY GRACE, HOST: Ms. Sykes. What did you observe in the home that evening?

ANNETTE SYKES, HALEIGH`S GREAT-GRANDMOTHER: I stopped by about 7:30 to drop off some laundry that I had done. I always did the children`s laundry just because it`s something I`ve always done. And the children were on the front porch with Misty. They were eating supper. And when we drove up, Haleigh jumped out of her chair and come running up and gave me a hug. And Junior came out and gave me a hug, and I gave them a kiss. And Misty walked out. She helped carry some of the clothes into the house and got the children`s shirts on, and they got back up to eat supper. I gave them a kiss, told them good-bye, and I got back in the car and left

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1004/22/ng.01.html

BBM

That's who changed the shirt.......and Misty didn't know that. Why?? IMO, she wasn't there when the shirt was changed.
In Misty's initial story we didn't hear about GMSykes being there. In the script that Misty was given she was told NOT to mention that part. I think the reason for this was because GMSykes visit plays a significant role in this story, as do the pink shirt.
JMO though