The question phase continues: Arias on the stand for the 18th day #83

[thefragile7393]

anyone else care to join?
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[Linda From New York]

Is there anyone besides me who is having nightmares? I have been following this trial for only a few weeks, I watch the THs only occassionally and I read a few pages here a day (goes too fast for me to be able to catch up). Last night I had my first nightmare and when I woke up I was afraid to move and couldn't go right back to sleep. I think I will stick to watching the trial (listening actually as I'm at work. shhhhhh) and not get so caught up in other media before bedtime.

I woke up one morning last week with the word "edify" on my lips :what:

 

[LizardQueen74]

Let's get ready to rumble.....

 

[TigerBalm]

Per Jean on HLN, she spoke to a lady who gave up a trip to Hawaii to go see the trial. :what:

 

[JusticeJunkie]

Just got the beep. It always scares the bejesus out of me!!

 

[MandyLeigh]

Just mere minutes and off we go. I never feel like this on days I know Nurmi is going to be on. On Martinez days I feel like I waiting waiting to get onto a roller coaster. You don't know what twists and turns are going to happen, you just know it's going to be exciting.

 

[oceanblueeyes]

daylight savings has messed with my court lunch hour, looking forward to you guys' post to hold me over til the evening.

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It works out very well for me but then Im retired now.

Im on EST so I have most everything done before trial starts.

Just made a homemade cake and put the lemon glaze on it so its ready when my hubby gets in tonight from work. When they go on their lunch hour is when I prepare our dinner.

IMO

 

[NashBridges2]

A big thank you to all my fellow Websleuths friends who sent well wishes to me last nite,lost my beloved Golden Retriever yesterday,she was 9 1/2, her name was Lucy,and I loved her very much.I couldn't sleep last nite ,so came on the board,and all your words meant so much to me. thank you again.

sorry for your loss

 

[Tiki]

WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

Juan Martinez just arrived in a black suit and striped tie. Trial has not begun yet, we anticipate it starting at 10:30 #JodiArias

 

[mayqueen]

Good morning everyone!

(for katiecoolady - cream, no sugar)

 

[newsjunkie]

Court will be starting soon. We will be watching whatever goodness Juan has in store for us. . . .

 

[Liebchenmutti]

(Hope it's OK to copy this from the closing thread. Spent a long time writing it and didn't want it to get lost in the shuffle.)

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Have taken a 4 day break from all things JA. Almost. Can't seem to stop thoughts about the trial popping up when I least expect them to.

I'm sure this is no revelation and has been discussed many times in many ways. Lat night, though, my mind shifted the kalidescope of testimony/evidence ever so slightly, and the pieces fell into a point of view I think it's possible JA held.

JA's past relationships demonstrate that she never acknowledged much less respected other's boundaries or privacy. JA has a 100% track record of being controlling, possessive, and utterly self-absorbed. As well,she has proven incapable of fashioning any life of her own for herself. She is like a formless ball of clay, requiring a mold-- a man- to wrap herself around in order to have any identity at all.

Given all that is true- and IMO, it is, then what was so different about her relationship with Travis Alexander that led to his murder?

IMO the Fatal Attraction--"if I can't have him nobody can"-- interpretation is way too simplistic and misses the mark. JA never loved Travis- she is incapable of genuine attachment of any kind. She had/has no friends of her own, male or female. Subtract Travis's friends and his church/ business circles she relentlessly inserted herself into and what is left is her small handful of ex-boyfriends. Travis as possession, perhaps, but love? Nah.

Come mid to late May 2008, she still wanted TA, whatever that meant to her. Travis was clearly trying to distance himself. Her endless manipulations and "drama," the tools she had always used, successfully, to keep her talons in him were failing her. Travis was going to move on, and without her. IMO Cancun with Mimi made her extremely angry, yes, but that was only half the story.

JA knew that Travis kept the end months of their "relationship" secret, and she knew that he did so because his friends didn't like her/were creeped out by her. The benefit to JA of that secrecy, though, was that Travis was telling only a very few of his closest friends about JA's increasing hostility and bizarre behavior.

If only a few of T's Arizona buddies knew who and what she really was, she could in theory move on herself and latch onto another innocent Mormon guy, her preferred class of victim.

But Travis wasn't just calling it quits with her. He called her a sociopath and a . He told her his friends would spit in her face if they knew the truth about her, and he threatened to expose the truth about her- both her sexual and crazy behavior- to her family and to his friends.

I think the threat of having her normality mask removed by Travis absolutely panicked JA. HE would be able to move on and get married, but SHE would a pariah, denied her victim pool of Mormons and PPL folk. Poof would go the easy access to the life TA showed her that she immediately saw as her right and due-- the traveling, the nice house and car, the income she'd never earn as a part time waitress at Denny's.

I think she killed him to silence him. I think she snuck into his house and tried to plant incriminating "evidence" on his computer while he still slept. I think she had sex with him to demonstrate that she still held power over him, and I think that she screamed about HER destroying HIM as she stabbed him and slit his throat.

I think that this trial, from JA's warped sociopathic view, is providing her with the satisfaction of doing to HIM what he threatened to do to HER. He would tell the world about HER whoredom? She trumps him by lying about affairs with married women, spins woe is me tales of tootsie pops and raunchy fantasies (taped for the express purpose of exposing him), and from the darkest recesses of her sick mind, accuses him of pedophilia. Take THAT, Travis.

HE would tell the world about HER viciousness and psycho behavior? She trumps him again by manufacturing her accusations of physical abuse. Take THAT, Travis.

Every accusation she makes outright and slips in under her breath or under the radar is a gigantic FU to Travis. She's gleeful and triumphant and cocky because she is getting the opportunity of a lifetime to obliterate Travis the way she felt he was poised to do to her.

Personally I'm glad in one way that she's so wrapped up in her pursuit for revenge that she's single-handedly destroying any possibility the jury will want to spare her life. Poetic justice at its finest.
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AWESOME post! That is exactly my theory, too.

 

[Tiki]

WildAboutTrial @WildAboutTrial

If you see the state seal on your video player you are not missing anything, trial has not started yet. Please stay tuned. #JodiArias

 

[beeshie]

Posted by geevee in the previous thread (I don't know how to bring a quote over):

I've realized I'll never be able to keep up (yesterday I tried and couldn't get closer than 4 pages behind lol) so I'm just going to the end of the tread and starting from here. Anagrammy asked me a couple days ago if I could link pics, last night and this morning I took a bunch of screen shots and uploaded them to my PB album here:

http://s1287.beta.photobucket.com/us...98512101018741

I have decided that she stabbed him first, and here's why - look at the diagram (or one of the bedroom carpet pics (but I think the diagram illustrates it better), there are two areas of blood leading past the closet and to the TV cabinet in the bedroom corner.

I remember she said in one of her answers on the stand that she had her purse on the dresser (I think when JM was asking about when she packed up to leave TA's house) - I think her purse was on that cabinet and she had the dripping knife in her hand when she went for the gun. I also got a decent pic of the egde of the sheet dragging pic, you can see something on top left of the sheet, it's either buttons (meaning it's the duvet cover) or maybe it's the gun she laid on top of it while she dragged him back. I'm thinking button though but I can't make that any clearer.

Most of the pics in the album aren't lightened or otherwise messed with, I just screen shotted and saved (a couple have the isolated area of what I think is flying blood) but most are the way they were shown in court, so save and play with them if you like. End quote.

BBM

I've looked at that spot in the pic many times myself trying to figure out what that is. I've come to the conclusion that it's a light reflection from when it was shown in court. Unless there's a better picture w/o the reflection, it's too hard to say what that might be, if anything.

 

[ChristYTN]

Just got the beep. It always scares the bejesus out of me!!

Me too!!
:what::what:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

I heard a beeeeeeeeeeeep on az central.. maybe they are testing the audio :wink:

Ms. Bee......whats blowing the margins?

thanks

 

[OldCarGal]

FYI - We are currently on a road trip. We are also quite the daredevils, as we don't even have one gas can! :giggle:

We have antique/classic cars, so we do not go on road trips, we go on adventures.
Many times, we sat on the side of the road

 

[Rosemary Pierce]

A big thank you to all my fellow Websleuths friends who sent well wishes to me last nite,lost my beloved Golden Retriever yesterday,she was 9 1/2, her name was Lucy,and I loved her very much.I couldn't sleep last nite ,so came on the board,and all your words meant so much to me. thank you again.

Lucy I wasn't on last night, but I am so, so sorry to hear that. I have a golden and a golden/great pyrenees mix. They are are such wonderful dogs.

 

[Tulessa]

You're all famous -- or is it infamous?

I was featured on our local news for some writing I had done. This is even better! :floorlaugh:

 

[Linda From New York]

:thewave: