The question phase continues: Arias on the stand for the 18th day #83
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wait wait 1:15????? holy cow!
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As much as Jodi lies im surprised she didnt accuse space aliens of killing Travis and they captured her and thats why she has no memory of anything
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Trout.. my brain is so foggy from the testimony I can not figure out the time change!!! ARGHHH!!! When will we be back EST?
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It is frustrating the interruptions, then audio equipment issues. I wish the Defense Attorney's would have to leave then room while she is questioned.
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The Vatican smoke signals work better than the technical stuff in the courtroom.
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March 13, 2013
--Nurmi asking if the court received copies of the motions he filed yesterday. Sidebar.
--Nurmi doesn't have a copy but Martinez does and they approach the bench to speak with the judge.
--Jodi Arias takes the stand and the jury is brought in.
--Martinez asks JA about when she told the jury about shooting TA.
--Started with JA taking photographs of TA in the shower.
--Exhibit 160, photo taken at 5:30:30 p.m., JA says she remembers saying the photo was not intentially taken. JA is not sure whether it was taken when she was fumbling with the camera or not. JM says that after the photo was taken TA continued to be in the shower because the camera did not fall to the floor.
--Exhibit 161, one of the deleted photos, Nurmi objects, says it is beyond the scope. Sidebar.
--Exhibit 161, photo taken at 5:31:14 another inadvertent photo. Picture of Travis sitting in the shower. JA says she doesn't know how the ceiling photo was taken.
--JM: the camera hit the ground near the shower. JA: no, it hit the mat.
--JM: the camera went down, hit the mat, near the shower and then it rolled right?
--JM: you then said that TA came after her. JA: says he picked me up.
--JM: were you not afraid because he wasn't coming after you? JA: he wasn't chasing me yet, he was right beside me.
--Discussion between JA and JM about what "coming after me" means.
--JM: As a result of being put on the ground you bumped your head, maybe it knocked the wind out of you, you were in fear, you were able to fight him off to get away. JA: I rolled.
--JA says that TA let her go when he body slammed her.
--JM says that she rolled away and ran down the hallway.
--JM says that one of the things that JA said was possible (juror question) was that the camera was picked up by TA.
--JM: to pick it up he would have to bend down and pick it up. If he is doing that and he is looking at the camera, and you are down the hallway, then he is not very close to you. JA: I don't know.
--JM: says you said it was possible.
--JA: either scenario is possible, he could
--JM: you didn't turn around did you? JA: no
--JA: I don't know that he did that so I don't know how to answer
--JM: if it is possible he did that then there is a measure of time for TA to look at the camera
--JA: I guess
--JM: what does that mean?
--JA: all possibilities are a guess
--JM: if he did take it and place it down you did not hear a drop did you?
--JA: did not hear it drop
--JM: and then you went into the closet right? you went up into the closet and get the gun and then go into the bathroom. That's when he was coming at you in the linebacker pose. and that is when you shot him in the face. JA: that's when the gun went off.
--JM: you keep saying the gun went off but you were holding the gun weren't you?
--JM: he did get on top of you and you were fearing for your life right? JA: yes
--JM: and one of the things that you told us is that when you are stressed you are like a computer that freezes right? JA: yes
--JA: it was a very high stressful situation.
--JM: so this is one of the times your computer doesn't freeze up. (referring to when she said that TA yelled at her after she shot him).
--JM: so in this particular case, you do remember what he said
--JA: the fog started to come in after the gun shot, when he threatened my life
--JM: the way you describe it, it is impossible for the killing to happen like that isn't it?
--JA: it is not impossible.
--JM: we know there is action at 5:31 and then at 5:32:16, you didn't have the camera with you when you shot him, so we are talking about a minute and 2 seconds, Ma'am, do you remember about being asked on cross about the knife, the knife used to cut the rope, you told us that. You are telling us the last time you saw the knife it was used to cut the rope. You said you didn't know where that knife had gone.
--JA: I said I didn't remember where it was placed after we cut the rope.
--JM: and if that is the case that you don't remember where the knife was and then after the shooting, the fog doesn't have to remember things does it, I am asking you about the fog enhances your ability or improves your ability to remember. I am asking you to tell me about this fog, if it increases your ability to remember?
--JA: I don't know
--JM: you don't remember?
--JM: I am asking if you are the one who has the best knowledge about what happens when this fog roles in.
--JA: I can only describe it
--JM: and when the fog rolls in it does not improve your memory does it? you still don't know where the knife is do you?
--JA: today as I sit here I don't remember where the knife was, but on June 4th I might have known where the knife was.
--JM: you remembered about him using the knife and the prosecutor was trying to ascertain where the knife had gone.
--JA: I don't remember where the knife was
--JM: so if you don't know where the knife was, it could have been in the closet?
--JM: so you, by necessity, you had to go and look for the knife. You didn't have the knife in your hand when you shot him. If you didn't have the knife in your hand, you needed to get it from somewhere.
--JA: I guess
--JM: there's no guessing here
--JA: it's possibile that TA grabbed the knife
--JM so as TA is getting blasted he now has a knife in his hand.
--JA: not at that particular moment
--JM: we both went down. He never had a knife in his hand did he?
--JA: nobody asked me
--JM: youdo then agree if you didn't have the knife and TA didn't have it, it would take time to go find that knife.
--JA: I don't know, I didn't know where the knife was
--JM: repeats the knife question
--JA: I don't know
--JM: even if the knife was there, to grab it , that takes time
--JA: I don't know
--JM: if the knife was in the bedroom, and not in the closet, it would take more time to get it
--JM: isn't it true that if the knife was in the bedroom or the closet that would take more time to go and get it.
--JA: I guess
--JM: In 62 seconds you get body slammed, you get away, run down the hallway, go in the closet, grab a gun, back up, shoot TA, pick up the camera and he is down the hallway with his throat slit. That's what you are telling us?
--JA: I don't know about the camera and I don't know that his throat is slit
--JM: In the 62 seconds you are body slammed, you get away, you go down the hall, go in the closet, get the gun, go into the bathroom, turn around, shoot TA, he goes down and TA threatens you and then after you are able to get away you go get the knife and he ends up at the end of the hallway.
--JA: no that's not what I'm telling you, he didn't say "I'm going to ****ing kill you *****" until after...
--JM: and then you had to go get the knife for everything to occur.
--JA: I don't know all the particulars of what is going on the photo
--JM: well you do know the timing of it don't you? This right here is blood and blood doesn't happen until you get cut right?
--JM: there is another reason why your scenario isn't possible. Lets talk about this issue of getting shot. He goes down and he is pawing at you and you are able to stand up, he threatens you, then the fog rolls in.
--JA: the fog
--JA: after th gun went off my memory starts to get foggy
--JM: you do then have to get the knife in your hand for their to be injuries like in Exhibit 180.
--Nurmi objects, sidebar
--You indicated in response to a juror's question that you shot him, he went down, you stood up and the threatened you. at no time did you ever indicated that TA's hands were in contact with any knife did you?
--JA: no I did not
--JM: given the time constraints here it would be impossible for you to have the knife with you wouldn't it?
--JA: well since that is not how it happened it's not entirely possible. I did not have the knife a t the time that we fell.
--JM: and again in response to the jurors question, he stayed down when you got up right?
--JA: I don't know
--JM: you didn stand up at some point, you remember telling us that?
--JA: I guess
--JM: so you try to get away and at the time you are trying to get away, which you now seem to remember you don't have the knife right?
--JA: at that point where my memory begins to end (missed the rest).
--JM: then you had to come back to him with the knife right?
--Nurmi objects, argumentative, sidebar
--Jury is asked to go to the jury room. Judge asks counsel to go to chambers to discuss the matter. Court will resume at 1315 hours.
--Nurmi asking if the court received copies of the motions he filed yesterday. Sidebar.
--Nurmi doesn't have a copy but Martinez does and they approach the bench to speak with the judge.
--Jodi Arias takes the stand and the jury is brought in.
--Martinez asks JA about when she told the jury about shooting TA.
--Started with JA taking photographs of TA in the shower.
--Exhibit 160, photo taken at 5:30:30 p.m., JA says she remembers saying the photo was not intentially taken. JA is not sure whether it was taken when she was fumbling with the camera or not. JM says that after the photo was taken TA continued to be in the shower because the camera did not fall to the floor.
--Exhibit 161, one of the deleted photos, Nurmi objects, says it is beyond the scope. Sidebar.
--Exhibit 161, photo taken at 5:31:14 another inadvertent photo. Picture of Travis sitting in the shower. JA says she doesn't know how the ceiling photo was taken.
--JM: the camera hit the ground near the shower. JA: no, it hit the mat.
--JM: the camera went down, hit the mat, near the shower and then it rolled right?
--JM: you then said that TA came after her. JA: says he picked me up.
--JM: were you not afraid because he wasn't coming after you? JA: he wasn't chasing me yet, he was right beside me.
--Discussion between JA and JM about what "coming after me" means.
--JM: As a result of being put on the ground you bumped your head, maybe it knocked the wind out of you, you were in fear, you were able to fight him off to get away. JA: I rolled.
--JA says that TA let her go when he body slammed her.
--JM says that she rolled away and ran down the hallway.
--JM says that one of the things that JA said was possible (juror question) was that the camera was picked up by TA.
--JM: to pick it up he would have to bend down and pick it up. If he is doing that and he is looking at the camera, and you are down the hallway, then he is not very close to you. JA: I don't know.
--JM: says you said it was possible.
--JA: either scenario is possible, he could
--JM: you didn't turn around did you? JA: no
--JA: I don't know that he did that so I don't know how to answer
--JM: if it is possible he did that then there is a measure of time for TA to look at the camera
--JA: I guess
--JM: what does that mean?
--JA: all possibilities are a guess
--JM: if he did take it and place it down you did not hear a drop did you?
--JA: did not hear it drop
--JM: and then you went into the closet right? you went up into the closet and get the gun and then go into the bathroom. That's when he was coming at you in the linebacker pose. and that is when you shot him in the face. JA: that's when the gun went off.
--JM: you keep saying the gun went off but you were holding the gun weren't you?
--JM: he did get on top of you and you were fearing for your life right? JA: yes
--JM: and one of the things that you told us is that when you are stressed you are like a computer that freezes right? JA: yes
--JA: it was a very high stressful situation.
--JM: so this is one of the times your computer doesn't freeze up. (referring to when she said that TA yelled at her after she shot him).
--JM: so in this particular case, you do remember what he said
--JA: the fog started to come in after the gun shot, when he threatened my life
--JM: the way you describe it, it is impossible for the killing to happen like that isn't it?
--JA: it is not impossible.
--JM: we know there is action at 5:31 and then at 5:32:16, you didn't have the camera with you when you shot him, so we are talking about a minute and 2 seconds, Ma'am, do you remember about being asked on cross about the knife, the knife used to cut the rope, you told us that. You are telling us the last time you saw the knife it was used to cut the rope. You said you didn't know where that knife had gone.
--JA: I said I didn't remember where it was placed after we cut the rope.
--JM: and if that is the case that you don't remember where the knife was and then after the shooting, the fog doesn't have to remember things does it, I am asking you about the fog enhances your ability or improves your ability to remember. I am asking you to tell me about this fog, if it increases your ability to remember?
--JA: I don't know
--JM: you don't remember?
--JM: I am asking if you are the one who has the best knowledge about what happens when this fog roles in.
--JA: I can only describe it
--JM: and when the fog rolls in it does not improve your memory does it? you still don't know where the knife is do you?
--JA: today as I sit here I don't remember where the knife was, but on June 4th I might have known where the knife was.
--JM: you remembered about him using the knife and the prosecutor was trying to ascertain where the knife had gone.
--JA: I don't remember where the knife was
--JM: so if you don't know where the knife was, it could have been in the closet?
--JM: so you, by necessity, you had to go and look for the knife. You didn't have the knife in your hand when you shot him. If you didn't have the knife in your hand, you needed to get it from somewhere.
--JA: I guess
--JM: there's no guessing here
--JA: it's possibile that TA grabbed the knife
--JM so as TA is getting blasted he now has a knife in his hand.
--JA: not at that particular moment
--JM: we both went down. He never had a knife in his hand did he?
--JA: nobody asked me
--JM: youdo then agree if you didn't have the knife and TA didn't have it, it would take time to go find that knife.
--JA: I don't know, I didn't know where the knife was
--JM: repeats the knife question
--JA: I don't know
--JM: even if the knife was there, to grab it , that takes time
--JA: I don't know
--JM: if the knife was in the bedroom, and not in the closet, it would take more time to get it
--JM: isn't it true that if the knife was in the bedroom or the closet that would take more time to go and get it.
--JA: I guess
--JM: In 62 seconds you get body slammed, you get away, run down the hallway, go in the closet, grab a gun, back up, shoot TA, pick up the camera and he is down the hallway with his throat slit. That's what you are telling us?
--JA: I don't know about the camera and I don't know that his throat is slit
--JM: In the 62 seconds you are body slammed, you get away, you go down the hall, go in the closet, get the gun, go into the bathroom, turn around, shoot TA, he goes down and TA threatens you and then after you are able to get away you go get the knife and he ends up at the end of the hallway.
--JA: no that's not what I'm telling you, he didn't say "I'm going to ****ing kill you *****" until after...
--JM: and then you had to go get the knife for everything to occur.
--JA: I don't know all the particulars of what is going on the photo
--JM: well you do know the timing of it don't you? This right here is blood and blood doesn't happen until you get cut right?
--JM: there is another reason why your scenario isn't possible. Lets talk about this issue of getting shot. He goes down and he is pawing at you and you are able to stand up, he threatens you, then the fog rolls in.
--JA: the fog
--JA: after th gun went off my memory starts to get foggy
--JM: you do then have to get the knife in your hand for their to be injuries like in Exhibit 180.
--Nurmi objects, sidebar
--You indicated in response to a juror's question that you shot him, he went down, you stood up and the threatened you. at no time did you ever indicated that TA's hands were in contact with any knife did you?
--JA: no I did not
--JM: given the time constraints here it would be impossible for you to have the knife with you wouldn't it?
--JA: well since that is not how it happened it's not entirely possible. I did not have the knife a t the time that we fell.
--JM: and again in response to the jurors question, he stayed down when you got up right?
--JA: I don't know
--JM: you didn stand up at some point, you remember telling us that?
--JA: I guess
--JM: so you try to get away and at the time you are trying to get away, which you now seem to remember you don't have the knife right?
--JA: at that point where my memory begins to end (missed the rest).
--JM: then you had to come back to him with the knife right?
--Nurmi objects, argumentative, sidebar
--Jury is asked to go to the jury room. Judge asks counsel to go to chambers to discuss the matter. Court will resume at 1315 hours.
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She uses it too often. JMO in the course of conversation a truly knowledgeable person would have more than a few big words that they use repeatedly.
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They are covering it. They are a bit behind and keep interupting because they have a new announcement about The Pope, but they are running it.
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45 minutes i think.
It's one of her slights of hand. Her magical disappearing time trick.
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New time has me so messed up. If they are reconvening at 1:15. Is that 4:15 EST? That is an hour and a half away!!
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She flourishes on it.
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I bet they are ticked - I would be too...
I just hope the jury takes it out on the right person, the person who caused everyone to be there....
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One of the worst trials I've seen, it reeks of unprofessionalism, except for Juan of course. They work 4 1/2 hour days, 4 days per week. The judge lets Nurmi get away with far, far too much. It's the most frustrating case I've ever followed.
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