the question phase continues: Arias on the stand for the 18th day #85

[cubbeegirl]

Looks like Vinnie Politan has some shelves to step on...

That's my guess anyway...

haha...gotta love Vinnie :floorlaugh:

 

[Lissa]

Quick question for our law school student... How many years does it take to become an attorney, going full time and starting from scratch.

4 years of college and 3 years of law school (at ~15 units/semester,) plus time to study for, and pass the bar exam.

 

[Venom]

She wanted to be a Mormon after the visit from the Mormons at her and DB's place. That is why she broke-up with him! She told him she couldn't have sex with him anymore.

But here's the thing, she hooks up with Travis and becomes baptized as Mormon and has all this crazy-kink sex with him?'

She is truly an evil piece of work and doesn't deserve to ever see the light of day.

I thought that she became mormon after meeting Travis, not because of mormons visiting her. :blushing:

 

[nightwatch]

JM was grinning a bit when JA said that she was 5'6" (66") and could look at eye level at the photo on the first shelf. He knew she pulled yet another boner.

Eye level is 5" from the top of your (adult) head, so (according to JA) the middle of the photo on the shelf would have to be 61" (5'1") from the floor of the closet, meaning that the shelf is only 56" (4'8") from the floor.

Typical doors are 81" from the floor to the bottom of the door jamb. According to Jodi, that door must be about 6" high!

Typical doorknobs are 36" from the floor. You can easily see in the photo where the doorknob is and where it connects with the door jamb.

I believe the measurements on the floorplan JM used in his OS only include widths and lengths, but not the heights.

If Jodi stepped onto the third shelf from the floor, that would be like stepping up about 30" - 36". Try that at home!

good post.

i was also happy when jm said something like, so you got that gun down in the dark? i have a closet like ja's and the door that opens to the bathroom is kept close especially during showers because of the steam going in the closet. :moo:

 

[Nova]

I was thinking the same thing. (Mark E.) looks like he has too much makeup on, and I totally disagree with him on his assessment of Juan Martinez although I usually agree with him on most issues.

I've worked a number of trials and one of my primary jobs was to type and update the direct and (especially) the cross-examination scripts. Now I always worked on the defense side, but I never saw an attorney go into court without a detailed "script" (that, in fact, read sort of like a play) of every question s/he intended to ask and what the witness would mostly likely answer based on what was said previously in depositions or interrogations.

I think that is what Mark is talking about in terms of organization.

Now maybe Menendez is taking an ad lib approach because he knows JA is lying and he believes the more he jumps around, the less she will be able to keep her lies straight. If Mark E. has considered this possibility, I haven't heard him speak of it.

 

[josie1986]

so how long are we thinking nurms will have his first witness on tomorrow? if its any longer than the lunchtime recess i am going to have to find a way to self medicate ZzZzZZz

 

[Straitfan]

Need to vent/rant:

For any and all who think JM is being too harsh I challenge you to look at the autopsy pix -- I don't mean the crime scene pix or the pix in the shower showing the slit in his throat. I mean the pix of him on the table -- the pic showing 3 deep stabs to his chest, the pic of his back, neck and back of head all sliced up, the pic of his neck open so wide you see every layer of skin, muscles and all of his insides that will probably make you vomit. I won't post them here bc they will give 99% of the people nightmares!! They are AWFUL! JA is a spawn of satan and IMO Juan is being more than gentle to her given the nature of her crime and all of the lies to boot!!

Ok, I'm feeling better now. Thanks!

Glad you feel better now and as I stated it was jmo....we all have different ones.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I was laughing at Jodi and her use (and misuse) of "big words" and unnecessary descriptions. She makes me think of Oswald, the prison inmate on In Living Color who always talks in ridiculously big words, none of which he understands, and most of which he mixes up in a hodgepodge of existing words. It got me to thinking about her story. Here it is, in a nutshell, in Jodi-Speak, followed by translations:

Jodi:
I would proclaim in the affirmative that it is within the realm of possibility that I may have assisted the individual with the appellation of Travis Alexander to embark upon his glorious journey from the terrestrial world into the celestrial world, with the caveat that he may have journeyed to the subterrestrial world; I wouldn't be privy to that informational data of the post-terrestrial sphere of existence.
(Translation: Yes, I killed Travis Alexander.)

The person of whom you are speaking was not inclined to indulge me (that is to say, mySELF) with tender, considerational behavior.
(Translation: He was mean to me.)

The decedent bestowed upon me the appellation of Tri-Orificed Astonishmentalitation.
(Translation: He called me a 3-hole wonder.)

The male subject of our discussion and I engaged in carnal relations, which is to say, copulation of the intercoursal, oral, and buttal variety.
(Translation: We had sex.)

Our sexual activity involved bondage of the upholstery cord loose wrist noosal variety intended to bind the articulation between the forearm and the hand.
(Translation: He tied me up.)

The upholstery cord loose wrist noosal raw material was first prepared by severing it with a keen-edged instrument of cutlery.
(Translation: He cut the rope with a knife.)

I initiated a series of digital photo-opticular events via the use of a mechanical shutterbox-like piece of equipment which utilizes light and opticalative states of being to produce lifelike images to be viewed and/or retrieved at a later point in time. He was moist and not garbed in traditional textiles gathered together by twisted filaments in the shape of a human body.
(Translation: I took photos of him in the shower. He was wet and naked.)

He lifted my body and hurled it to the floor with great force and in a violent manner whereupon I landed upon my spine.
(Translation: He body-slammed me.)

I extricated myself from his attempted pintintinilation and scurried down the corridor betwixt the bathing quarters and the room designed to accommodate the suspension of voluntary bodily functions and the natural suspension, complete or partial, of consciousness, whereupon I pivoted to the right and entered the enclosed recess typically used to store apparel, footwear and other miscellaneous items.
(Translation: I ran through the hallway and into the closet.)

I placed the door into a position that would render an intruder temporarily (for a split-second) helpless to enter the space within which I was located.
(Translation: I shut the door.)

I leaped ever skyward, briefly placing an appendage of the metacarpal variety onto the edge of a thin slab of wood fixed horizontally to a frame (for supporting objects) in order to gain height. I then affixed my hands upon a weapon that would be capable of propelling metal projectiles with great force and brought the weapon back with me when I plummeted back to the lower gravitational limit, landing in a nimble manner on the afforementioned appendages of the metacarpal variety. The aforementioned weapon may or may not have previously been encased in a sheathlike carrying pouch; said pouch was not surrounding the firearm at that moment in the space-time continuum.
(Translation: I jumped up and grabbed a gun that may or may not have previously been in a holster.)

The weapon may or may not have been occupying space within a rectangular receptacle consisting of corrugated cardboard.
(Translation: The gun may or may not have been in a box.)

I then moved my legs in a rapid, rhythmic manner in order to propel me out the alternate doorway and back into the bathing quarters; the room is also used to collect and dispose of human excrement and liquid bodily wastes.
(Translation: I ran into the bathroom; that's the room where people also pee and poop, just in case the jury didn't already know the definition of "bathroom".)

The subject then proceeded to propel himself toward me in an aggressive manner that would be best described as that of a defensive player in American or Canadian football who is positioned just behind the line of scrimmage. He was uttering derogatory epithets and threatening to terminate my essential natural processes.
(Translation: Travis lunged at me like a linebacker and said "f*****g kill you, b***h!".)

The weapon within my bent digits (one more bent than the others) discharged just as his body impacted my corporeal vessel and sent us both hurtling to the floor.
(Translation: The gun went off just before he knocked me off my feet.)

I extricated my corpus from his own maniacal and heavily-weighted corporeal instrument.
(Translation: I was partially under him, but managed to get out from under him. )

The events that thereafter occurred cannot be recalled in any reliable fashion by the organ residing within my cranium, although the events have a quality that may or may not be described as a mixture consisting of liquid particles dispersed in a gaseous medium.
(Translation: I dont remember. I was in a fog.)

I DO recall the audio effect of the keen-edged piece of cutlery landing upon the tiled lower enclosing surface upon which one walks.
(Translation: I remember the knife clattering on the floor.)

When I regained my memory and cognition, I was driving within an arid, barren wasteland.
(Translation: I came to in the desert.)

My lowest appendages of a metacarpal variety were no longer encased in its customary footwear, nor was any footwear apparent within the vehicle.
(Translation: I was barefoot.)

I performed an ablution to remove debris and excess human vascular system fluid with the usage of clear fluid which was purchased in bulk from a merchant of miscellaneous items that may only be exchanged for monetary tokens from a member of a private society.
(Translation: I washed the blood off with water from Costco.)

I hurled the firearm used to commit a possible homicidal act into the arid, barren wasteland.
(Translation: I threw the damn gun into the desert.)

I then proceeded to direct my rented vehicle to another state within the Northern Hemisphere, specifically within the United States ) for the purposes of assembling with another member of the Church of Jesus Christ Of Latter Day Saints, with whom I had been in electronic and vocal communication, but had not laid eyes upon in the corporeal sense.
(Translation: I drove to Utah to meet a potential sucke--ummm--vict--ummm matrimonial life partner in person.)

We pressed our cavities containing the structures used in mastication together, may or may not have comingled our tongual muscles, and ground our genitals together in a rhythmic manner.
(Translation: We hung out.)

When next I endeavored to operate the vehicle of the Budget clan, I was stopped by a member of the local regulatory force that is employed to maintain order in a civilized society. I was informed that my placard which proclaims the legal status of the vehicle's permission to be upon a public roadway was positioned with the upper part undermost.
(Translation: I was stopped for driving with an upside-down license plate.)

Several hours later my companion and I once again engaged in light carnal activity, but we did not proceed to the point of penile/vaginal penetration, nor did we remove our lower, textured coverings.
(Translation: We hung out some more.)

I departed from my companion's abode in the Beehive State, destined for my own abode in the far northern extreme of the state named for it's resemblance to a hot Spanish oven in a municipality so-named when a stretched BAKERY sign was inadvertently read backwards and was missing the letter B. I did not, at any time, enter the city upon a dessicated lake consisting of sodium crystals.
(Translation: I left and never, ever, ever was in Salt Lake City.)

Most excellent post! I love it!


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[LambChop]

In other words, LaViolette's testimony may be less than truthful, and more biased toward a woman. Great. :banghead: Hopefully, JM can somehow impeach any testimony she may have. I guess if someone is paid for their testimony, they do not have to honor the oath they take to tell the truth. Um, think that is perjury.

Why bother?

If Jodi is to be believe JM has already impreached LaViolette. JM asked Jodi if she told Ms. LaViolette that Jodi and Matt had broken up before he started seeing Bianca, and Jodi said no. Obviously Ms. LaViolette said she did. So who is lying??? jmo

 

[Kensie]

Off topic side note:

Got accepted to lsu law school today!!!

Fantastic...

 

[Linda7NJ]

4 years of college and 3 years of law school (at ~15 units/semester,) plus time to study for, and pass the bar exam.

Thank you! I thought so!!!


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[Hatfield]

Quick question for our law school student... How many years does it take to become an attorney, going full time and starting from scratch.

My friend thinks she's going to accomplish finishing law school in three years. It's her first semester ever at community college and she's enrolled for 8 credits.


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Any 4 year Bachelor of Science degree (not even law degree) would take about 6-7 years or even more at only 8 credits per semester. For a law degree it is probably even more at that rate.

8 credits is under normal for a full time student. For a part time student, 8 credits would be ok.

 

[LinasK]

Well I pray to God that if Juan brings in the same shelves for a demonstration that we don't have an OJ and the Glove incident.

Juan has far more experience than Chris Darden did. He's already put a woman on Death Row in AZ. I have total faith in him.

 

[Straitfan]

Seeing crime scene photos and my thoughts about a prosecutor are two totally different views.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Jodi is off the stand:rocker:

:great: Yes, and isn't it just great !

:floorlaugh: And ya know she's pizzed about it ...

:seeya:

 

[Gypsy Road]

Quick question for our law school student... How many years does it take to become an attorney, going full time and starting from scratch.

My friend thinks she's going to accomplish finishing law school in three years. It's her first semester ever at community college and she's enrolled for 8 credits.


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Not a law student here, but your friend needs to get her Bachelors Degree first, and that's usually done over a 4 year span (some people can complete this in less time, some need more time. At the rate of 8 credits per semester - it's going to take your friend a long time.) Then she will have to take the LSAT and apply to Law school.

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

Hey, I went to Auburn.

Good - War Eagle, Kensie!

 

[AngelWings444]

I've worked a number of trials and one of my primary jobs was to type and update the direct and (especially) the cross-examination scripts. Now I always worked on the defense side, but I never saw an attorney go into court without a detailed "script" (that, in fact, read sort of like a play) of every question s/he intended to ask and what the witness would mostly likely answer based on what was said previously in depositions or interrogations.

I think that is what Mark is talking about in terms of organization.

Now maybe Menendez is taking an ad lib approach because he knows JA is lying and he believes the more he jumps around, the less she will be able to keep her lies straight. If Mark E. has considered this possibility, I haven't heard him speak of it.

BBM: It's Martinez. Juan Martinez.

 

[ClosArgs]

Shot first - didn't hit the brain
She does not arrive with a knife. She finds one after she shoots him.

The ME was very clear, based on the trajectory and the bullet's resting place in the bone it's path was through the frontal lobe. He specifically stated it would not have just grazed the brain. I always thought the gun was not the planned weapon. Too noisy in a home where 3 men with varying schedules lived. Just my opinion of course.

 

[katiedid2]

In other words, LaViolette's testimony may be less than truthful, and more biased toward a woman. Great. :banghead: Hopefully, JM can somehow impeach any testimony she may have. I guess if someone is paid for their testimony, they do not have to honor the oath they take to tell the truth. Um, think that is perjury.

Why bother?

I've seen her act inappropriate in court! Laughing ! Smirking! Unprofessional behaviour and I agree with her bias