The ransom note - Patsy or intruder? It's all in the detail.

  • #81
At this time we have your daughter in our posession.


-Tea

TY

Those pesky double esses too much for the RN author? Please don't tell me that PR, the wife of a millionaire businessman, deliberately misspelled business, and maybe possession too, while correcting other misspellings. I can't handle that, its too paradoxical.
 
  • #82
Callan said:
I see your point, but surely, you are not suggesting that the ramsom note was written by Patsy Ramsey, left-handed? Look at the mess of an example she provided for police, using her left hand and then look at the fairly neat writing of the ransom note. I know that it was suggested that there there appeared to be similarities, but that was claimed by the 'trash mag' National Enquirer. The only therory these jokers have not put forward, is that Patsy murdered her daughter, whist being mind controlled by aliens ... or maybe they have{?}
Callan, have you ever heard of people dumbing themselves down so others don't suspect they have the ability to do something?


-Tea
 
  • #83
Where in the note are there corrections of other misspellings?


-Tea

Good question. THere are several corrections the author made. The only one I think was looked at as a misspelling may have been the word 'denied' as in 'denied a proper burial' . The 'e' is a strikeover of an 'i'.
 
  • #84
TY

Those pesky double esses too much for the RN author? Please don't tell me that PR, the wife of a millionaire businessman, deliberately misspelled business, and maybe possession too, while correcting other misspellings. I can't handle that, its too paradoxical.
Not saying who wrote the note but there is a reason the two mispellings were left in the note. It is consistent with another criminal case and I think L.E. were intended to make the connection.
 
  • #85
Here's a link to more comments about the ransom note:

Excerpt from page five:

"The original ransom note was permanently altered in a forensic test, but NEWSWEEK obtained a copy and hired handwriting analyst Gerald Richards, former head of the FBI's Document Operations/Research Unit, to examine it; Clinton Van Zandt, formerly of the FBI Behavioral Sciences Unit, volunteered his services...."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14394854/site/newsweek/page/5/
 
  • #86
TY

Those pesky double esses too much for the RN author? Please don't tell me that PR, the wife of a millionaire businessman, deliberately misspelled business, and maybe possession too, while correcting other misspellings. I can't handle that, its too paradoxical.

I have yet to see corrected misspellings. Please point them out to me....
 
  • #87
Here's a link to more comments about the ransom note:

Excerpt from page five:

"The original ransom note was permanently altered in a forensic test, but NEWSWEEK obtained a copy and hired handwriting analyst Gerald Richards, former head of the FBI's Document Operations/Research Unit, to examine it; Clinton Van Zandt, formerly of the FBI Behavioral Sciences Unit, volunteered his services...."

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14394854/site/newsweek/page/5/

Thanks for posting this...and the very first one was...


"1 - Claiming to be part of a terrorist organization is a common ruse in ransom notes. Van Zandt says he sees 'no linguistic evidence' to imply a foreign connection."

HOTYH...what do you have to say about THAT??
 
  • #88
RDI paradox No. 37: RN author deliberately misspells 'business' while going out of the way to correct other misspellings.

what do you mean corrects other misspellings?? the crossed out words weren't misspellings..the so-called 'kn',forgot he was supposed to **deliver the child,not have her picked up.(b/c he wasn't a real KN!),and b/c he(SHE!) was about to put the wrong word in..the word don't ...which just goes to show it's nothing more than a made-up story.
 
  • #89
TY

Those pesky double esses too much for the RN author? Please don't tell me that PR, the wife of a millionaire businessman, deliberately misspelled business, and maybe possession too

that's just the trick they were trying to employ...only the obviously deliberate misspellings ended in the first paragraph..b/c she was too concerned about telling the rest of the story to bother to make any more misspellings on purpose.
all of the paradoxes were done to make it appear *they,the parents...didn't do it...but they did.
exactly what would you do if you wanted to cast suspicion away from yourself??? you'd do the same thing...attempt to appear it couldn't have been done by you.that's the basic sentiment of all crimes that are attempted to be covered up.
the R's are very see-thruable.
 
  • #90
There are many EASL whose spoken English is nearly seamless. Needless to say, writing's another story. Misspelled words and handwriting that is awkward (yes, the RN handwriting isn't disguised, its awkward) are consistent with EASL author.

..by the time a foreigner has learned to talk/write seamlessly,he/she knows how to spell basic English words by then.look at how many foreigners come to the US with their **possessions to start a *business themselves,but yet...they don't misspell it.
it's putting the cart before the horse to say that.
 
  • #91
The only reason that I say..that I don't see what difference it makes....is because...too me, that doesn't prove a thing. I believe that Patsy wrote that RN...I think that she did it probably left handed...and that it was carefully worded and carefully thought out....and the i's carefully dotted. As I have said before...If I write something that I have to carefully think out, before I write it....my i's are dotted perfectly too, because I am in such deep thought about what to write...and if I am writing something important...I write more slowly....therefore, dotting my i's differently that I normally would. Even JOHN says that the handwriting in the RN is similar to Patsy's.

he did a lot of trying to set her up,IMO.**HE took a shower...but he let Patsy wear the same clothes,and JB the same shirt they had on the evening prior at the White's,yet he let her call the White's over...actually I think he *told her to call them.He also handed LE the notepad the RN was written on...and says in DOI...that if he had written it,then why would he have handed it to them? Because...HE didn't write it ! If he'd have written it...be guaranteed that WHOLE notepad would have disappeared !!
 
  • #92
Actually, LE DID think it possible PR wrote the note with her left hand, and I believe she was asked to provide samples of writing with both hands. I am not sure if she was the only person asked to write with both hands, but someone here must know.

I've seen them online;I don't know if she was the only one either.It's obvious to me that esp. on her left-handed samples,she purposely wrote very sloppily.nonetheless,the many similarities match up.
 
  • #93
I would agree with you on the above boldface Holdon. It looks identifiable to me and awkward like the writing of a nervous person switching hands every few lines, a person who may have thought that printing instead of cursive would disguise the writer's identity. Did you notice how the slant changes every few lines?

she may have changed the slant of the sharpie,my son is left handed and sometimes he writes (like a lot of left handed ppl do),with the pen or pencil slanted twds the top of the ppr,other times he holds it down,like a right handed person usually does.
she may have even switched hands back a forth at least once to attempt to throw suspicion from herself.
 
  • #94
he did a lot of trying to set her up,IMO.**HE took a shower...but he let Patsy wear the same clothes,and JB the same shirt they had on the evening prior at the White's,yet he let her call the White's over...actually I think he *told her to call them.He also handed LE the notepad the RN was written on...and says in DOI...that if he had written it,then why would he have handed it to them? Because...HE didn't write it ! If he'd have written it...be guaranteed that WHOLE notepad would have disappeared !!

Yes, and I don't blame him. I, of course...think that Patsy killed JB..but, John helped to cover it up. But, I bet when the investigators started breathing down his neck, he started having second thoughts. I sure wouldn't go to jail for MY spouse, if he had of done something like that....even if I helped to cover it up (which I would never do)...if it started looking like the intruder story was not going to fly..then my jaws would start flapping...and I would tell everything that I knew. And, I also would do like John did...anything and everything to point the finger in the direction where it belonged.
 
  • #95
..by the time a foreigner has learned to talk/write seamlessly,he/she knows how to spell basic English words by then.look at how many foreigners come to the US with their **possessions to start a *business themselves,but yet...they don't misspell it.
it's putting the cart before the horse to say that.


The handwriting is sloppy. The spelling is bad. The choice of words was unusual. To account for this, RDI is forced to declare that PR deliberately misspelled business, switched hands, and picked words to throw off LE. These claims are not verified by any official.

Low command of the English language, and odd choices for words makes perfect sense for FFDI. Go figure.
 
  • #96
Yes, and I don't blame him. I, of course...think that Patsy killed JB..but, John helped to cover it up. But, I bet when the investigators started breathing down his neck, he started having second thoughts. I sure wouldn't go to jail for MY spouse, if he had of done something like that....even if I helped to cover it up (which I would never do)...if it started looking like the intruder story was not going to fly..then my jaws would start flapping...and I would tell everything that I knew. And, I also would do like John did...anything and everything to point the finger in the direction where it belonged.

yes,it seems he sure started sweating...he prob. thought..'here, here ...TAKE the notepad!' he knew full well that was going to put suspicion on Patsy.
 
  • #97
The handwriting is sloppy. The spelling is bad. The choice of words was unusual. To account for this, RDI is forced to declare that PR deliberately misspelled business, switched hands, and picked words to throw off LE. These claims are not verified by any official.

nah,I guess that's why FBI agent Ron Walker had already said the note was fake b/f JB was found,and 'you're going to be finding hr body'.and he was right.
Low command of the English language, and odd choices for words makes perfect sense for FFDI. Go figure.
LOL.ok,if you really want to believe that.personally I think it is the STUPIDEST piece of work I have ever seen.I don't think I've ever heard of any other crimes such as this done by a 'SFF'.If so,then where are they? where are all the other businessmen and their daughters who were killed by them,not just killed...garrotted..with past vaginal intrusions..on Xmas at that...and where are all the other 3 page RN's????????? if this is their profession,there should be a whole string of them.and some of them are pedo's to boot? wow, that IS odd.
but I'm not sure what you're point is...your points keep getting more and more bizarre,and they reek of desperation to point to an IDI..like Karr wrote it? the 'SFF' is hanging out in some foreign country? (exactly which SFF's CALL themselves SFF's? they don't). I just keep getting the feeling that even you don't believe what you're saying.
 
  • #98
The handwriting is sloppy. The spelling is bad. The choice of words was unusual. To account for this, RDI is forced to declare that PR deliberately misspelled business, switched hands, and picked words to throw off LE. These claims are not verified by any official.

Low command of the English language, and odd choices for words makes perfect sense for FFDI. Go figure.

Holdon, have you read all the document examiner opinions or just the ones hired by the Ramsey side? The claim that Patsy can not be excluded is, indeed, verified by FBI document examiners whether you believe it or not.

In rebuttal, I never said in order for Patsy to have written the note that she had to have changed hands. To my eye, whether she wrote the note or not or whether she changed hands or not, the slant changes from paragraph to paragraph. Something caused that and it indicates an intention of the writer to disguise their handwriting.
 
  • #99
Nothing is more bizarre, nasty, and crass than the RDI scenarios, from the POV of IDI. They don't even have any basis in reality, just made up. They sell, though. Tabloids love a rich family scandal.

Has it honestly (and I am asking you this sincerely and politely) ever entered your mind that that most RDI's of whatever belief were not at one point IDI's hanging on for dear life trying to hold on to the illusion that a parent(s) would not could not have done this to their own child, That most of us were literally ill when we no longer had the comfort of denial? That this has no basis in tabloid fodder at all? Or did it not enter your mind that poor people love their children just as much as anyone does? This was not about the money, unless you consider a poor person ten times more likely to be prosecuted succesfully. I am serious when I ask you this. That our beliefs are influenced by the evidence. It is not a comfortable position for RDIS of whatever stripe to grasp that Jon Benet died at the hands who were to have loved and protected her, it was not an easy thing to consider or it sure was not for me. That is my opinion and my heartbreak both.
 
  • #100

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