The ransom note - Patsy or intruder? It's all in the detail.

[JMO8778]

It should then comfort you to know that there are those who did not jump to the conclusion, even before any forensic lab test were performed, that it was a family matter.

I was thinking about that,and it's an absolutely horrifying thought to me..that anyone would let another get away with the murder of a child,just b/c it's done by a relative.(so what,we all have relatives..does that mean everyone should get away with the murder of a child?)
On top of that,it deprives the person of something called accountability...
Patsy would have been put in her place sitting in prison.Which is exactly what she needed,IMO.As it was,she grew even more arrogant;I could see that in the show of her crying at the piano(play acting,IMO),driving the boat,and in her general overall manner as well.

 

[Charlie]

Without foundation in the facts?? What about all those acronyms on that list?? Didn't you notice that practically every SFF on that list has an acronym to go along with it? SBTC, hello? There was an ACRONYM in the RN.

Please refrain from claims that my statements are without foundation in the facts, when they are clearly based on the facts.

By your logic Holdon, Patsy must be a prime suspect for you, considering she was also well known to use acronyms quite frequently in her letter witting.

 

[Charlie]

I don't believe the kidnappers were in the house when PR called 911. They were gone already. I think the note was written and placed on the staircase as a diversion to buy time, for the perps to leave the area.

Holdon, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that you think the intrduer wrote a 3 page rn in order to buy time to leave area? If i were the intruder and time was a factor in leaving the area, i think id avoid sitting down wasting valuable "fleeing time" writing a 3 page rn and instead just leave. Your argument seems illogical.

 

[Charlie]

Anyone who looks at those figure-8 "q"s in the side-by-side and still says it wasn't her is truly a person beyond my meager understanding.

I remember the "figure-8 "q"s in the side-by-side" and was completely wide-eyed when i saw them, i think for me that was the clincher the Patsy was the rn author. Ive been trying to find the side by side comparison to post it on this thread but cant. I remember a poster had it as their signature, does anyone remember who, or where i can find it so it can be posted?

 

[Callan]

Following on from my original post, I would like to bring your attention to the letter [U].




In file 0028 – she used the letter {U} – a total of 36 times. Of these – 30 were with a tail.


In file 0029 – she used it – a total of 34 times. Of these – 24 were with tail.


In file 0032 [historic] – she wrote it 3 times with a tail.


In file 0033 [historic] – is the same.


In file 0036 [left-handed] – she wrote it 26 times. Of these – 20 were with tail.


In file 0037 – she wrote it 11 times. All with a tail.


In file 0038 – she wrote it 9 times. Of these – 8 were with tail.




Total number of letter {U}s – 122


Total number with tail – 99




Ransom note, page1 - 34 letter {U}s


'' page 2 – 35 letter {U}s


'' page 3 – 11 letter {U}s


Total number - 80 letter {U}s – number with tail – 0


In other words, if the note had been written by Patsy Ramsey, it would have contained at least 58 letter {U{s – with a tail.


You also have to remember that the note was written at some speed. It contained not only words that were either crossed out or inserted, but a change of mind. ''We do like your business'' – then ''not''. JonBenet was to be ''delivered'' back – then it was to a be ''pick-up''. This would not have occurred, if it had been written slowly.

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Congratulations, Callan

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Following on from my original post, I would like to bring your attention to the letter [U].




In file 0028 – she used the letter {U} – a total of 36 times. Of these – 30 were with a tail.


In file 0029 – she used it – a total of 34 times. Of these – 24 were with tail.


In file 0032 [historic] – she wrote it 3 times with a tail.


In file 0033 [historic] – is the same.


In file 0036 [left-handed] – she wrote it 26 times. Of these – 20 were with tail.


In file 0037 – she wrote it 11 times. All with a tail.


In file 0038 – she wrote it 9 times. Of these – 8 were with tail.




Total number of letter {U}s – 122


Total number with tail – 99




Ransom note, page1 - 34 letter {U}s


'' page 2 – 35 letter {U}s


'' page 3 – 11 letter {U}s


Total number - 80 letter {U}s – number with tail – 0


In other words, if the note had been written by Patsy Ramsey, it would have contained at least 58 letter {U{s – with a tail.


You also have to remember that the note was written at some speed. It contained not only words that were either crossed out or inserted, but a change of mind. ''We do like your business'' – then ''not''. JonBenet was to be ''delivered'' back – then it was to a be ''pick-up''. This would not have occurred, if it had been written slowly.

Nice work!

 

[Holdontoyourhat]

Holdon, correct me if I'm wrong, but are you saying that you think the intrduer wrote a 3 page rn in order to buy time to leave area? If i were the intruder and time was a factor in leaving the area, i think id avoid sitting down wasting valuable "fleeing time" writing a 3 page rn and instead just leave. Your argument seems illogical.

The standard IDI has the intruder arriving hours before the R's. Around 5 or 6 PM. Add this to the hours afterward the intruder was in the house.

 

[Charlie]

The standard IDI has the intruder arriving hours before the R's. Around 5 or 6 PM. Add this to the hours afterward the intruder was in the house.

I'm not sure i understand how you think the rn distracted the ramseys in order to give the intruder time to flee the area. I would think that not writing a rn note would in fact distract them more, thus giving the perp even more 'fleeing time'. Lets suppose the rams woke up and found their daughter not in her bed, nor downstairs, that would alarm the rams to check the entire house top to bottom looking for their daughter which would take some time as opposed to reading the rn which lets the rams know there daughter has been taken so they can call the cops immediately and therefore start the man hunt quicker. So by writing a rn note the perp was actually eliminating the possibility of distraction altogether.

 

[JMO8778]

I think so,too Charlie.that gives them a chance to get roadblocks and searches set up...vs no note,could mean they thought she just wondered off,and would begin searching the neighborhood,knocking on doors,etc.

 

[Toltec]

Let's talk about the neighbors statements and how they would fit into this intrudor theory:

The neighbor who notices the light in the sunroom is off....something she has never seen.

The neighbor next door: Sees a light on in the kitchen...a light he describes as if someone were walking around as if not to wake anyone?

The neighbor who hears a scream around 2am? The husband who hears a clanging sound afterwords.

The neighbor who has a dog in the alley who would bark at the wind.

If this intruder struck JonBenet and she screamed....then he would have run out of the home...dropped the weapon....and the dog would start barking.

This didn't happen folks. If this intruder took off after JonBenet screamed...then who wrapped her lovingly in a blanket?

 

[BOESP]

I remember the "figure-8 "q"s in the side-by-side" and was completely wide-eyed when i saw them, i think for me that was the clincher the Patsy was the rn author. Ive been trying to find the side by side comparison to post it on this thread but cant. I remember a poster had it as their signature, does anyone remember who, or where i can find it so it can be posted?

Charlie, here is an example comparison of the Q's:

See message #18 at http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6404&page=2&pp=12


Here is the first of three pages of an analysis of the handwriting and linguistics:

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6404

And, at http://www.realsundancekid.com select the ransom note analysis link on the left side of the screen for more.

 

[DeeDee249]

I'm exhausted...

 

[Charlie]

Charlie, here is an example comparison of the Q's:

See message #18 at http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6404&page=2&pp=12


Here is the first of three pages of an analysis of the handwriting and linguistics:

http://www.forumsforjustice.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6404

And, at http://www.realsundancekid.com select the ransom note analysis link on the left side of the screen for more.

thanks BEOSP for looking that up for me, when i get home from work ill go over it.

 

[Charlie]

Holdon, if you could take a few minutes and answer me this id appreciate it. Ok leaving your opinions of the perp in the ramseys case at the door, imagine your child has just been abducted after reading a rn found in your house one morning. The rn note says that if u even so much as talk to another person about the abduction,your child will not only killed but beheaded. Would you honestly then call 4 friends over and your pastor?

 

[Rino]

A poster, deep down in a basement! That's a new slant on things.

With regard to the film in question, this had only just been released, so the only way that the Ramsey's could have watched it, is at a cinema, or possibly, they may have been able to hire the film, for watching on their personal Home Cinema System.

If they did watch it, then unless they paid cash, the checks on their financial records - would have revealed this.

If it was just released it would be in theaters. Who pays to see a movie by check??

 

[BOESP]

The standard IDI has the intruder arriving hours before the R's. Around 5 or 6 PM. Add this to the hours afterward the intruder was in the house.

So you believe the Intruder was carrying around the notepad the ransom note was written on all the time after the Ramseys arrived home? Or perhaps the Intruder hid the pad until ready to tear-off the ransom pages?

 

[BOESP]

thanks BEOSP for looking that up for me, when i get home from work ill go over it.

You're welcome. I also admit that those "q's" were a clincher in my mind. There may not be a smoking gun, but Patsy wrote that note and Patsy agreed with Steve Thomas on USA national television, Larry King Live, that whoever wrote that note was the killer.

 

[icedtea4me]

http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k243/crs97/DogComparisons.jpg

The above 'dog's are from the note. The 'dogs' below are from Patsy's left-handed writing sample. Notice a similarity?


-Tea

 

[JMO8778]

Let's talk about the neighbors statements and how they would fit into this intrudor theory:

The neighbor who notices the light in the sunroom is off....something she has never seen.

The neighbor next door: Sees a light on in the kitchen...a light he describes as if someone were walking around as if not to wake anyone?

The neighbor who hears a scream around 2am? The husband who hears a clanging sound afterwords.

The neighbor who has a dog in the alley who would bark at the wind.

If this intruder struck JonBenet and she screamed....then he would have run out of the home...dropped the weapon....and the dog would start barking.

This didn't happen folks. If this intruder took off after JonBenet screamed...then who wrapped her lovingly in a blanket?

not to mention,wiped her down,redressed her,and put the flashlight back on the counter.(if not,then what did Mr Intruder use to see with in the basement?)