The Reid Scale: Classic Unsolved Murder Cases

[STANDREID]

Although it serves no purpose except in the realm of theory, it could be said that there is also a Level 6. That would be a murder so perfect that none of us even suspects that it ever happened.

Or, was a murder at all.

 

[ctaylor]

Peter Alphon claimed he did it. I don't know if he is still living. One 2009 report said he was deceased.

Not to take your thread off topic Standreid, but here are some clips of Peter Alphon being interviewed where he claims to have committed the murder - (just a warning - all six clips play at the same time when you click the link so you will need to pause them all and watch them one by one)

http://www.itnsource.com/shotlist/BHC_ITN/1967/05/17/X17056701/?v=0&a=1

Such a bizarre case as he changed his story so often down the years.

 

[KarlK]

I guess Lee Harvey Oswald is a 4 then

 

[STANDREID]

I would probably give him a 3 Karl but I understand where you're coming from.

 

[STANDREID]

Not to take your thread off topic Standreid, but here are some clips of Peter Alphon being interviewed where he claims to have committed the murder - (just a warning - all six clips play at the same time when you click the link so you will need to pause them all and watch them one by one).

Thankfully, we've heard the last from this guy.

 

[Belinda]

Very interesting thread. So, I assume, my favorite case - Elfrieda Knaak - would be a 4.

 

[STANDREID]

I think I would agree with that Belinda from what I know.

 

[Robin Hood]

Lonnie Jones, 4 or 5 ?

 

[STANDREID]

I would probably say 5 Robin just going by my limited knowledge but a 4 could be argued for I suppose. It depends on how legitimate one considers the people of interest.

 

[Robin Hood]

Best say 5 to be fair then Stan.

 

[STANDREID]

Then that settles it!

 

[STANDREID]

Additional examples:

0-Charles Starkweather
1-Wayne Williams
2-Roland Molineaux
3-Marilyn Sheppard Murder
4-Black Dahlia Case
5-Zip Gun Bomber

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I'm listening to St. James Infirmary and thought of Marcia McKittrick and Bobby VanDiver, which leads to Ash Robinson and his daughter Joan Robinson Hill.

Who killed Joan? Was it John?

Who killed John? Did Ash hire Lilla Paulus and she called in a debt Bobby Vandiver and Marcia McKittrick owed, and they killed him?

This is another of my favorite reads. I've been to many of the places here in Dallas and in Houston. We were about same age and going through a similar life through not as bad.

When I drive through Terrell I think of the life that Marcia had there. Marcia, just a teenager, stripping to this song in a bar in Dallas.

I remember Bobby when I drove past the bar in Longview when he was gunned down.

So, who killed Joan Robinson Hill?

 

[STANDREID]

Some more:

0-Jeffrey Dahmer
1-Nicola Sacco
2-Tony Mancini
3-Great Hartford Circus Fire
4-Jack the Stripper
5-Charles Mattson Kidnapping/Murder

 

[norest4thewicked]

Interesting thread!

 

[STANDREID]

I believe that Sacco was posthumously pardoned but that is only a forgiveness not a reversal of conviction.

 

[STANDREID]

Actually in 1977, Governor Dukakis issued a proclamation saying that he viewed the trial of Sacco and his co-defendant Bartolomeo Vanzetti as unfair. They were not pardoned nor were their convictions set aside. Of the two, I think more people believe that Vanzetti was possibly innocent.

 

[STANDREID]

2-Tony Mancini

Mancini was found not guilty but later confessed when he knew he could not be retried. Although his admission was likely an attention seeking ploy, it was also probably the truth.

 

[STANDREID]

Mancini's confession actually came in 1976; 42 years after the event.

 

[STANDREID]

The source says that in 1976 Mancini confessed shortly before his death but according to one report he actually didn't die until 1987.